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NismoZ
12-19-05, 11:34 AM
Interesting piece from Cosworth's Bruce Wood over at CCWS about the problems associated with getting more power out of the XFE. Even I understood it. (sort of :) ) Full power at the altitude races. :thumbup:

cameraman
12-19-05, 12:57 PM
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/News/Article.asp?ID=9888

NismoZ
12-19-05, 02:04 PM
And news that Keith Duckworth died last night. What a giant in the sport. Talk about an indelible mark! Rest in peace.

oddlycalm
12-19-05, 03:31 PM
Sorry to see that Kieth Duckworth has passed. Since I started attending races as a kid just about the time they started making racing engines, I can't really imagine the racing world without Cosworth. Without a competitive contract engine works in existance a lot of the racing I've seen simply wouldn't have happened.

Interesting article on the changes, or lack of them, to the Champ Car engines for 2007. Getting back to 775hp with 850hp push-to-pass, along with some weight out of the car, should have us back to where we were on performance, while still retaining the reliability and economy. That's pretty great news coming on the heels of having RA back on the schedule. :thumbup:

One more item on the list we can check of where CCWS is doing what they said they would.

oc

trauma1
12-19-05, 05:13 PM
Keith Duckworth
Keith Duckworth, the man hwo designed the Cosworth Formula 1 engine, the most successful engine in the history of the sport, has died at the age of 72. Duckworth's influence on motor racing was enormous not simply as a designer but also for the role he played in building up the British motor racing industry by supplying affordable engines to small teams in a variety of different formulae.

Duckworth was born in Blackburn, Lancashire, and educated at Giggleswick School in Yorkshire. After completing his National Service with the Royal Air Force, he went to Imperial College in London to study engineering and in 1957 became a transmission development engineer at Lotus Cars, under the watchful eye of the great Colin Chapman. In 1958 he joined forces with another Lotus engineer called Mike Costin and the two formed Cosworth, their first job being to develop parts for Ford road car engines. Costin did not join the company fulltime until 1962 but by then the business was firmly established and in 1964 moved to its current headquarters in Northampton.

In the autumn of 1965 Ford commissioned Cosworth to built two racing engines: a 1.6-litre Formula 2 engine and a 3-litre Formula 1 V8. The results were the Cosworth FVA and the legendary (a word not used lightly) DFV. Duckworth designed bot these engines in the course of 1966 and the DFV won on its debut at the Dutch Grand Prix in June 1967, the first of 154 Grand Prix victories for the engine and its various derivatives. The DFV became the mainstay of Grand Prix racing in the 1970s and allowed teams like Brabham, McLaren, Williams and others to compete with factory teams such as Ferrari and Matra.. The Cosworth DFV would go on winning races until Las Vegas in 1982 buts its DFX derivative would also enjoy huge success in America. The DFX dominated Indycar racing in the late 1970s and early 1980s, scoring 81 consecutive victories at one point. The company also produced the Ford BDA for F2 although this was later used to great effect by the Ford rallying teams.

Cosworth was more than just an engine business. Mario Illien and Paul Morgan, the founders of Ilmor, were both Cosworth-trained engineers, and their Ilmor business became a major rival for Cosworth in the 1980s by which time Duckworth and Costin had sold the firm to United Engineering Industries. It was then passed on to Carlton Communications, Vickers plc and ultimately was split in two with Audi acquiring the road car business and Ford buying the racing operations. Cosworth Racing was sold on by Ford and is now owned by Champcar bosses Kevin Kalkhoven and Gerald Forsythe. Duckworth retired a wealthy man in 1988 at the age of 55.

L1P1
12-20-05, 08:01 PM
I guess it's good for costs, but it's strange that $15,000 for 93 new water inlet elbows would present such a huge hurdle for Cosworth. That comes out to about $160/part. That's less than an underdrive pulley for my road car. Sure, it's a plumbing piece vs. a part of the driveline, but still....

Looks like the Cosworth will be the only engine ever in this chassis.

pchall
12-20-05, 09:49 PM
I guess it's good for costs, but it's strange that $15,000 for 93 new water inlet elbows would present such a huge hurdle for Cosworth. That comes out to about $160/part. That's less than an underdrive pulley for my road car. Sure, it's a plumbing piece vs. a part of the driveline, but still....

Looks like the Cosworth will be the only engine ever in this chassis.


One change begets another and that change another... those changes eventually add up to big bucks.

I thought the whole plan was for the DP01 to be a Cossie XFE only chassis to be run for three years while the series is developed to the point where other suppliers are interested in particpating with a new set of chassis regs and engine spec?