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New Bond is Brit actor Daniel Craig. Never heard of him. I guess we'll see how he works out. I wish they would have kept Brosnan around for another flick or two. He's been my favorite after Connery.
racer2c
10-14-05, 09:50 AM
Weird, about a year ago I read an article where they had chosen an African-English guy. Forgot his name, but the CNN article doesn't even mention him.
Jervis Tetch 1
10-14-05, 10:08 AM
Call him James Blonde.
I'm going to miss Pierce Brosnin. I think he really fit the role well.
fourrunner
10-14-05, 10:31 AM
Hear he might Replace Howard Stern also ... ! ;)
Sean Connery IS James Bond ... all the rest are poser's ... but it was tough to live up to Connery's Bond !
I'm going to miss Pierce Brosnin. I think he really fit the role well.
Brosnan was a great Bond who had horrible scripts/directing/cgi. Goldeneye was a great Bond movie but after that the Broccoli's did a horrible job with the franchise.
Goldeneye is my favorite of the latest bunch.
Connery was certainly the best. It's a shame Brosnan couldn't get out of his Remington Steele gig to take over after Moore. We wouldn't have had to put up with Timothy Dalton.
Dr. Corkski
10-14-05, 11:37 AM
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That role should have gone to Stone Phillips. :gomer:
http://html.newsnet5.com/sh/images/Screengrabs/phillips.jpg
Insomniac
10-14-05, 01:50 PM
I was hoping it would be Clive Owen.
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fourrunner
10-14-05, 03:32 PM
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That role should have gone to Stone Phillips. :gomer:
http://html.newsnet5.com/sh/images/Screengrabs/phillips.jpg
Hey Cork ... if you put a Scotch Accent to Stones "foggy" voice, he would have the Sean Connery Sound ! :thumbup:
Goldeneye is my favorite of the latest bunch.
Connery was certainly the best. It's a shame Brosnan couldn't get out of his Remington Steele gig to take over after Moore. We wouldn't have had to put up with Timothy Dalton.
Hm, Timothy Dalton was my favorite (following Connery, of course). Roger Moore was my least favorite, although my first Bond movie was Live and Let Die, which I loved as a youngsta. Now, looking back, Moore was a wuss.
Dr. Corkski
10-14-05, 03:39 PM
Hm, Timothy Dalton was my favorite (following Connery, of course). Roger Moore was my least favorite, although my first Bond movie was Live and Let Die, which I loved as a youngsta. Now, looking back, Moore was a wuss.Living Daylights. :thumbup:
Can we all agree that George Lazenby sucked? :)
Not a big fan of Roger Moore but Live and Let Die is probably my favorite Bond flick, followed closely by Goldfinger.
coolhand
10-14-05, 04:48 PM
Goldeneye is my favorite of the latest bunch.
Connery was certainly the best. It's a shame Brosnan couldn't get out of his Remington Steele gig to take over after Moore. We wouldn't have had to put up with Timothy Dalton.
Timothy Dalton was the best Bond. And Dalton WAS the first choice for the role, Brosnan was the second choice.
the reason they apporached Brosnan first while he was in reminton Steele was because Dalton turned them down before in the early 70s. They approach Dalton prior to approaching roger Moore.
the script for Goldeneye was written for Dalton until they got into negoatations and fell out. They will all admit to this and you can tell by things like the head butting they had brosnen do (Daltons tradmark) and etc. I believe Goldeneye would have been much better with Dalton.
coolhand
10-14-05, 04:53 PM
Hm, Timothy Dalton was my favorite (following Connery, of course). Roger Moore was my least favorite, although my first Bond movie was Live and Let Die, which I loved as a youngsta. Now, looking back, Moore was a wuss.
Morre was a more humourous and less serious Bond, his films had a very different tone, he was the most womanizing of them all. i dont think he was the worst bond because his films were so different then the rest.
I agree with you about Dalton, his films were alot mroe serious and probably more realistic about what a secrete agent would be like, he was by far the most intense bond of them all.
like I said above, Goldeneye was written for him, imagine him at that scene on the beach in Cuba, Brosnen could not pull off the intensity of the scene like Dalton could have.
here is a quote from another place.
Dalton didn't fail at Bond at all. He wasn't recognized for what he was until many years after, but there were three reasons this happened.
The first reason was the smear campaign that Brosnan's PR people ran on him. Even before The Living Daylights was released they were making claims he stole the role from Brosnan, while in reality that role was Dalton's (on the basis of a '68 screentest) since On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Even after Dalton left the role, Brosnan had to re-screentest for the part.
The other thing that hurt him was that he drastically changed the way Bond was portrayed. Following Moore's foppish portrayal of the '70s and early '80s, Dalton's version of Bond was too drastic a change for most people. This is mostly seen in his second film, as Licence to Kill was the first film to be written solely for Dalton (The Living Daylights having been written at first with Moore and then with an anonymous Bond in mind). Dalton wanted to reflect the Bond of the books, not the comedy that Moore had made of the series. This lead (some say) to Licence to Kill being more like a standard '80s action movie than a Bond film. The funny thing is, not as many have said that Brosnan's films are standard '90s action films (The World is Not Enough and Goldeneye being the most Bond-like).
The last thing to affect his legacy is that he only made two films (choosing to leave the role just before Goldeneye). Had he made more he would have established himself in the minds of audiences. If it wasn't for these three things (mud slinging, change in portrayal, # films) his legacy would have taken root earlier than it has.
So, it's not a matter of failure as Bond, so much as the need for time for certain prejudices to pass and audiences to realize what he really brought to the role. As I said elsewhere, Dalton doesn't have the same reputation he did in the early '90s, people have come to realize that Brosnan's Bond was in no way superior and that they had judged Dalton without giving him the chance. Well, there are still some holdouts. And these tend to be people who have never even seen the films, or have seen them years ago and only once when they where predisposed to dislike it. Or, Brossophiles. Brosnan's fans cannot stand Dalton as they see him as a threat to Brosnan's legacy (especially after the stink Brosnan made before he got the role, and now seeing how poorly he did in the role).
fourrunner
10-14-05, 04:54 PM
Can we all agree that George Lazenby sucked? :)
Not a big fan of Roger Moore but Live and Let Die is probably my favorite Bond flick, followed closely by Goldfinger.
"Goldfinger" to me is the Best Bond Flick ... It also was the Best book of the series by Ian Fleming ..." From Russia With Love " follows close behind IMO
Roger Moore was more of a "Dandy" as Bond , also reflected the "tacky" 1970's, Disco Balls and Cheesy Special effects , Pastel Suits , and that "Cornpone" Sherrif that ended up in a couple of Moores Movies ...
Sean Connery was perfect in a Tuxedo, his humor was dry, and the Special effects were more basic & believable ... "M" was better too
George Lazenby was the "Bond that cried" James Bond doesn't cry ...
But Woody Allen as "Jimmy Bond" in Casino Royale was well ... kinda Jewish !!! ;)
coolhand
10-14-05, 04:57 PM
Can we all agree that George Lazenby sucked? :)
Not a big fan of Roger Moore but Live and Let Die is probably my favorite Bond flick, followed closely by Goldfinger.
Live and Let die had one of the best sound tracks.
fourrunner
10-14-05, 05:10 PM
Coolhand
Dalton was #2 after Connery for me
I think a lot of this comes from when your first James Bond Experience occured
I was 12 when the first Bond movie came out, so Sean Connery IS Bond to me ... but I think that Timothy Dalton is the Closest to Connery ... but he came accross as humorLESS on screen but definitely "Macho" , he was very intense also ..
The sarcasm seemed to roll of of Sean Connery's tongue but it was an ice breaker to keep him sane ... not like Moore's broader Comedy
Connery's "Villains were more fun too and "Cold War" believable !!
I have All the Bond Movies on DVD ... watch them frequently ... they all have there good points ... But the Original "Ian Fleming " book versions are the most fun to watch because I read All those books and the movies are truer to the author's vision ( Except Woody's Casino Royale )
trivia Barry Nelson was the FIRST James Bond
coolhand
10-14-05, 05:17 PM
Coolhand
Dalton was #2 after Connery for me
I think a lot of this comes from when your first James Bond Experience occured
I was 12 when the first Bond movie came out, so Sean Connery IS Bond to me ... but I think that Timothy Dalton is the Closest to Connery ... but he came accross as humorLESS on screen but definitely "Macho" , he was very intense also ..
The sarcasm seemed to roll of of Sean Connery's tongue but it was an ice breaker to keep him sane ... not like Moore's broader Comedy
Connery's "Villains were more fun too and "Cold War" believable !!
I have All the Bond Movies on DVD ... watch them frequently ... they all have there good points ... But the Original "Ian Fleming " book versions are the most fun to watch because I read All those books and the movies are truer to the author's vision
I was born after a view to a kill was made, but Goldeneye was my first Bond film. I have seen them all except Die another day. When I saw the Dalton ones at first i thought they were pretty lame because he was only in two films and they were kinda serious films. But now that i am older and watched them agian I have come around to Dalton as the better Bond, Conory is just as good but he is truly from a different era, they are hard to compare.
Dr. Corkski
10-14-05, 05:20 PM
I don't think Brosnan was even that good in Goldeneye, he was good enough, but it was the villians and sidekicks that carried that movie.
OTOH The Living Daylights was still enjoyable despite having 2 of the sorriest villians I have ever seen.
fourrunner
10-14-05, 05:27 PM
One thing we can all agree on is that Comparison's are difficult, and subjective ! :)
fourrunner
10-14-05, 05:36 PM
I loved Christopher Walken in "A View to a Kill"
Classic Walken as he falls from the blimp laughing !! :thumbup:
Great posts, fourrunner!
"foppish" is a perfect description of Roger Moore. Maybe Hugh Grant could be the next foppish Bond? :laugh:
coolhand
10-14-05, 06:18 PM
I don't think Brosnan was even that good in Goldeneye, he was good enough, but it was the villians and sidekicks that carried that movie.
OTOH The Living Daylights was still enjoyable despite having 2 of the sorriest villians I have ever seen.
I think the living daylights was the hardest to follow of all the bond movies, that might ahve hurt it, bu I agree it was a good film. But I think LTK was the better one because the plot better fit dalton's version of Bond, as a darker and more emotional type.
Sean O'Gorman
10-14-05, 06:19 PM
I was hoping it would be Clive Owen.
Same here. Those BMW films kick ass, it would be like a natural extension.
Connery was the best and Goldfinger my favorite. Live and let die not far behind that. I liked Moores interpretation of Bond, maybe a little light hearted at times but he always got the woman. I'm not sure on Dalton, I've watched his flicks a couple times and he just didn't win me over. Brosnan on the other hand, was a definite winner. Sad to see he couldn't do a couple more. And I'm not to sure about a blonde Bond. :shakehead
before everyone gets their skirt tied up in knots, they'll probably just dye the guys hair brown/black. no biggie about him being blonde.
devilmaster
10-14-05, 10:34 PM
speaking from experience?
coolhand
10-14-05, 11:57 PM
speaking from experience?
lol :laugh:
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