View Full Version : The Foyt Futility Watch -- July 15 thru 16
AJ4 and Special Ed are at it again in Nashville. Please note there is now an added futility bonus -- Short Bus Buddy is back!
Buddy's got Cossie power, he might actually be racy.
Buddy's got Cossie power, he might actually be racy.
You might be right about Short Bus this weekend.
But our other heroes are stinking it up as usual (30+ min. into practice):
1 Tomas Scheckter (4) ... 23.0568 202.977 19 23.6189 198.146 30 D/C/F .
21 Ed Carpenter (20) 0.6233 23.6801 197.634 16 23.7564 1970 18 D/T/F Pit
22 A.J. Foyt IV (14) 0.6434 23.7002 197.467 34 23.7002 197.467 34 D/T/F .
23 Jimmy Kite (91) 1.2124 24.2692 192.837 11 24.2692 192.837 11 D/T/F Pit
After Practice 1:
1 4 Scheckter, Tomas D/C/F 23.0409 203.117 53 59
2 95 Lazier, Buddy D/C/F 23.0625 202.927 61 62
20 14 Foyt IV, AJ D/T/F 23.5133 199.036 56 66
21 24 Yasukawa, Roger D/H/F 23.5357 198.847 17 30
22 20 Carpenter, Ed D/T/F 23.6196 198.141 28 48
23 91 Kite, Jimmy D/T/F 23.6851 197.593 20 37
But, but, but....what about The Danicle? :gomer:
-Kevin
But, but, but....what about The Danicle? :gomer:
-Kevin
You made me look again. :saywhat:
3 16 Patrick, Danica P/H/F 23.0711 202.851 48 59
You made me look again. :saywhat:
3 16 Patrick, Danica P/H/F 23.0711 202.851 48 59
It's only a matter of time before she gets the call. Chebby and Foyota already got theirs. :gomer:
-Kevin
FailureByDesign
07-15-05, 03:57 PM
Rahal is putting to much of there effort into qualifying,Danica let that one slip last week when she said "We ran all qualifying set ups and didn't do any race runs" :gomer:
It's only a matter of time before she gets the call. Chebby and Foyota already got theirs. :gomer:
-Kevin
Ya think so? Ya really, really think so? :p
Practice 2:
1 Danica Patrick (16) ... 23.0442 203.088 32 36.6609 127.656 35 P/H/F Pit
18 Patrick Carpentier (83) 0.3641 23.4083 199.929 22 37.8871 123.525 31 D/T/F Pit
19 A.J. Foyt IV (14) 0.4498 23.4940 199.200 31 23.5083 199.079 32 D/T/F Pit
20 Alex Barron (51) 0.4600 23.5042 199.113 20 28.9290 161.775 25 D/T/F Pit
21 Roger Yasukawa (24) 0.4936 23.5378 198.829 23 25.3546 184.582 34 D/H/F Pit
22 Ed Carpenter (20) 0.5890 23.6332 198.027 14 38.1413 122.702 17 D/T/F Pit
23 Jimmy Kite (91) 0.7306 23.7748 196.847 10 24.9129 187.854 20 D/T/F Pit
Racing Truth
07-15-05, 04:17 PM
I see Jimmy Kite continues to tool around at DFL in that Hemelgarn sled. :gomer: Then again, Mario Andretti in his prime couldn't win in that POS either.
TKGAngel
07-15-05, 07:04 PM
It's only a matter of time before she gets the call. Chebby and Foyota already got theirs. :gomer:
-Kevin
So when will Foyt and Special Ed get theirs?
So when will Foyt and Special Ed get theirs?
It does take a modicum of talent and some luck to exploit The Call. These two seem short of both.
Racewriter
07-15-05, 08:17 PM
I notice nobody commented on Buddy Lazier's 3rd starting spot.
What a shock...
Looks like the grid was set from practice time due to rains.
No changes to the positions of Foyt IV and Carpenter.
I notice nobody commented on Buddy Lazier's 3rd starting spot.
What a shock...
You'll note I mentioned he might be racy. ;) :p
I notice nobody commented on Buddy Lazier's 3rd starting spot.
What a shock...
Note that above I agreed with Cart7's comment about Short Bus and subsequently added his P1 qual time into the mix of selected times.
So when will Foyt and Special Ed get theirs?
When pigs fly? :gomer:
EDIT: Poor choice of words....we've seen those pigs fly on several occasions. :gomer:
-Kevin
Racewriter
07-15-05, 10:27 PM
My bad on both pchall and cart7. :o :D
Incidentally, Buddy won at Nashville in 2001...
DagoFast
07-16-05, 12:58 AM
Incidentally, Buddy won at Nashville in 2001...
That'll be a trivia question to stump the contestants on TF with someday. :thumbup:
Lizzerd
07-16-05, 01:03 AM
So when will Foyt and Special Ed get theirs?
Whenever one of them qualifies in the top ten, you'll know that earl is at least trying to send the call their way. :D
Jervis Tetch 1
07-16-05, 01:26 AM
You'll note I mentioned he might be racy. ;) :pI noticed this. And did you notice this? Had there been no split would you Buddy be on the A list of drivers like Sea Bass or Tracy or would he be on the list of never was guys like Randy Lewis, Salad Bar or Ludwig Heimrath?
I've got my answer.
I noticed this. And did you notice this? Had there been no split would you Buddy be on the A list of drivers like Sea Bass or Tracy or would he be on the list of never was guys like Randy Lewis, Salad Bar or Ludwig Heimrath?
I've got my answer.
Buddy looked to be headed onto the "never was" list pre-split in my book. It's not like he was doing anything of note or interest in the third rate rides his dad was arranging for him. On the other hand, guys like Tracy and Vasser made the most out of less well prepared and underfunded cars they got into for their early CART races.
spinner26
07-16-05, 10:02 AM
Hey hey now, Dan Byrd and the boys are putting up chunks of change for Buddy to have a decent ride. Didn't he do well at Findy this year?
Hey hey now, Dan Byrd and the boys are putting up chunks of change for Buddy to have a decent ride. Didn't he do well at Findy this year?
Between the mistakes of Danica and AJIV he got a placing at least three spots higher than he deserved.
Racing Truth
07-16-05, 02:29 PM
Between the mistakes of Danica and AJIV he got a placing at least three spots higher than he deserved.
Umm, no. You're right about IV, but otherwise, he was solid throughout the whole 500 miles. Not that ABC bothered to notice. :shakehead :gomer:
Racing Truth
07-16-05, 02:47 PM
NOTE: I am NOT saying B. Lazier is a great driver, far from that. But as someone who labored through the TV abomination that was ABC's coverage of the 500, it had to be said that he did quite well that day.
Umm, no. You're right about IV, but otherwise, he was solid throughout the whole 500 miles. Not that ABC bothered to notice. :shakehead :gomer:
That's pretty much how I remembered. In no way a threat to win but certainly kept it in the top 10 all day and ran much better than that girl that got all the attention and only got mentioned when he was passing her.
Final Practice
Firestone Indy 200 Track Status:
Pos Driver Diff B Time B Speed B Lap L Time L Speed L Lap C/E/T Status
1 Danica Wheldon (26) ... 23.1238 202.389 43 43.9247 106.546 48 D/H/F Pit
2 Tony Kanaan (11) 0.0272 23.1510 202.151 51 41.5703 112.580 52 D/H/F Pit
3 Dario Franchitti (27) 0.0280 23.1518 202.144 38 1:9.1666 67.663 46 D/H/F Pit
4 Buddy Lazier (95) 0.1743 23.2981 200.875 27 23.5208 198.973 36 D/C/F Pit
5 Tomas Scheckter (4) 0.1968 23.3206 200.681 30 37.7308 124.037 36 D/C/F Pit
6 Scott Sharp (8) 0.2124 23.3362 200.547 29 35.5738 131.557 33 P/H/F Pit
7 Danica Patrick (16) 0.2170 23.3408 200.507 42 42.8786 109.145 45 P/H/F Pit
8 Sam Hornish Jr. (6) 0.2484 23.3722 200.238 6 37.4706 124.898 17 D/T/F Pit
9 Vitor Meira (17) 0.2606 23.3844 200.133 25 39.1977 119.395 36 P/H/F Pit
10 Kosuke Matsuura (55) 0.2670 23.3908 200.079 26 38.7248 120.853 42 P/H/F Pit
11 Tomas Enge (2) 0.2785 23.4023 199.980 18 23.4591 199.496 43 D/C/F Pit
12 Patrick Carpentier (83) 0.2849 23.4087 199.926 34 36.2642 129.053 38 D/T/F Pit
13 Bryan Herta (7) 0.3202 23.4440 199.625 32 41.1221 113.807 39 D/H/F Pit
14 Scott Dixon (9) 0.3370 23.4608 199.482 23 25.0815 186.592 38 P/T/F Pit
15 Roger Yasukawa (24) 0.3408 23.4646 199.449 24 24.2121 193.292 38 D/H/F Pit
16 Ed Carpenter (20) 0.3538 23.4776 199.339 28 23.6109 198.214 42 D/T/F Pit
17 Helio Castroneves (3) 0.3861 23.5099 199.065 46 36.6788 127.594 51 D/T/F Pit
18 Darren Manning (10) 0.3981 23.5219 198.964 34 23.9515 195.395 40 P/T/F Pit
19 Alex Barron (51) 0.4747 23.5985 198.318 32 25.1568 186.033 39 D/T/F Pit
20 Ryan Briscoe (33) 0.4968 23.6206 198.132 11 10:25.6611 7.480 28 P/T/F Pit
21 A.J. Foyt IV (14) 0.6405 23.7643 196.934 37 23.8083 196.570 39 D/T/F Pit
22 Buddy Rice (15) 0.6571 23.7809 196.797 15 37.0145 126.437 33 P/H/F Pit
23 Jimmy Kite (91) 0.7015 23.8253 196.430 31 25.2636 185.247 36 D/T/F Pit
This weekends key match ups are:
Schecketer and Cosworth vs. Honda and Toyota
Lazier vs. Patrick
Carpentier vs. Cheever
FoytIV vs. The Wall
Special Danicle Downdate!!!
Patrick only lost six positions during the first 5 laps. She's getting even better!
[QUOTE=pchall]Special Danicle Downdate!!!
Patrick moves to P1 by not pitting when the nine cars in front of her refuel during a yellow brought out for Jaques deBris. After the restart she holds on to the lead for three whole turns!
devilmaster
07-16-05, 08:21 PM
and when she got passed, the debris caution came back out! :laugh:
jump into chat, pch
Lizzerd
07-16-05, 08:35 PM
Lap 164/200: I have only seen about the last 30-40 laps, and all these dumb pukes are talking about is Danicle!!!!!
Interview with mom, in-car with Danica all the time, Danica does this, Danica needs a yellow, Danica said this on the radio...
Geez... :shakehead
Ed and IV finish 10th and 12th respectively, a lap down.
DP finishes 7th after a bunch of wrecks. She apparently actually passed Danica Wheldon on the track during a green at one point.
Ed and IV finish 10th and 12th respectively, a lap down.
DP finishes 7th after a bunch of wrecks. She apparently actually passed Danica Wheldon on the track during a green at one point.
I saw that, the other she on the track caught some dirty air, starting pushing to the wall and backed off.
1 Dario Franchitti (27) ... 23.3368 200.542 196 23.5410 198.802 200 D/H/F Pit
2 Sam Hornish Jr. (6) 1.3163 23.3398 200.516 175 23.3403 200.512 200 D/T/F Pit
3 Patrick Carpentier (83) 1.5880 23.4672 199.427 88 23.4860 199.268 200 D/T/F Pit
4 Scott Sharp (8) 1.9513 23.2685 201.130 93 23.3339 200.567 200 P/H/F Pit
5 Helio Castroneves (3) 2.5559 23.4089 199.924 196 23.4862 199.266 200 D/T/F Pit
6 Scott Dixon (9) 3.0595 23.3610 200.334 198 23.6716 197.705 200 P/T/F Pit
7 Danica Patrick (16) 3.3646 23.2752 201.072 154 23.4997 199.151 200 P/H/F Pit
8 Ryan Briscoe (33) 3.5236 23.3693 200.263 198 23.5356 198.848 200 P/T/F Pit
9 Buddy Lazier (95) 3.9968 23.3674 200.279 199 23.5124 199.044 200 D/C/F Pit
10 Ed Carpenter (20) 1 lap 23.6967 197.496 27 23.7911 196.712 199 D/T/F Pit
11 Roger Yasukawa (24) 0.4737 23.6547 197.847 81 23.8214 196.462 199 D/H/F Pit
12 A.J. Foyt IV (14) 0.8581 23.6383 197.984 71 23.6461 197.918 199 D/T/F Pit
13 Jimmy Kite (91) 5 laps 23.8887 195.909 10 24.7638 188.986 195 D/T/F Pit
14 Kosuke Matsuura (55) 24 laps 23.4887 199.245 175 35.3904 132.239 176 P/H/F Accident
15 Alex Barron (51) 25 laps 23.5594 198.647 77 23.8513 196.216 175 D/T/F Accident
16 Vitor Meira (17) 0.4595 23.4054 199.954 82 23.7412 197.126 175 P/H/F Accident
17 Tomas Scheckter (4) 40 laps 23.4133 199.886 156 23.6178 198.156 160 D/C/F Mechanical
18 Buddy Rice (15) 66 laps 23.5669 198.584 104 60.4551 77.413 134 P/H/F Mechanical
19 Tony Kanaan (11) 84 laps 23.3714 200.245 89 23.7454 197.091 116 D/H/F Accident
20 Darren Manning (10) 85 laps 23.5419 198.794 101 24.0605 194.510 115 P/T/F Accident
21 Dan Wheldon (26) 104 laps 23.3119 200.756 45 37.4343 125.019 96 D/H/F Mechanical
22 Bryan Herta (7) 125 laps 23.5548 198.686 45 46.4844 100.679 75 D/H/F Handling
23 Tomas Enge (2) 173 laps 23.4858 199.269 27 23.4858 199.269 27 D/C/F Accident
B3RACER1a
07-16-05, 10:08 PM
Whats this about Matsura hitting a service truck under the yellow?
:saywhat: :rofl:
Whats this about Matsura hitting a service truck under the yellow?
Aeropush? :gomer: :D
PCH, thx for the updates...now go wash off dat smell. ;)
-Kevin
Aeropush? :gomer: :D
PCH, thx for the updates...now go wash off dat smell. ;)
-Kevin
It's a nasty job, but somebody has to do it. :gomer:
Al Czervik
07-16-05, 11:45 PM
Special Danicle Downdate!!!
Patrick only lost six positions during the first 5 laps. She's getting even better!
Maybe we need a Danicle Futility Watch?
Tomas Enge was sent to the hospital for an MRI after wrecking early in the race complaining of back pain. Early word is fractures of the L1 and T12 vertebrae.
Another "classic" IRL gearbox first hit apparently, with the usual results.
:rolleyes:
JohnHKart
07-17-05, 10:55 AM
Now what the heck was with that move AJ made into that other car, (I can't remember). The in car showed him moving to his left, his wheels almost interlocking with the other car, and almost taking the other car out. Wouldn't the spotter have been yelling the trademark IRL word inside way before and during then???? Can't you see out of these cars at all? Sheer stupidity.
John
Insomniac
07-17-05, 10:56 AM
Tomas Enge was sent to the hospital for an MRI after wrecking early in the race complaining of back pain. Early word is fractures of the L1 and T12 vertebrae.
Another "classic" IRL gearbox first hit apparently, with the usual results.
:rolleyes:
Does their constant mention of SAFER barrier combined with broken back after broken back instill any confidence in the barrier or the safety of the IRL? It seems the "it would've been worse without it" argument just shows how unsafe the IRL chassis really is. No wonder Mikey and Adrian retired quickly.
Insomniac
07-17-05, 11:00 AM
Now what the heck was with that move AJ made into that other car, (I can't remember). The in car showed him moving to his left, his wheels almost interlocking with the other car, and almost taking the other car out. Wouldn't the spotter have been yelling the trademark IRL word inside way before and during then???? Can't you see out of these cars at all? Sheer stupidity.
John
It seems with the sidepods, whatever that thing is called in the cockpit and the HANS it's hard to see anything besides what's in front of you.
I'm confused by how long it takes for a driver to get out of today's OW car? Shouldn't they be able to get out faster than that?
How long until IV takes out their golden egg?
Now what the heck was with that move AJ made into that other car, (I can't remember). The in car showed him moving to his left, his wheels almost interlocking with the other car, and almost taking the other car out. Wouldn't the spotter have been yelling the trademark IRL word inside way before and during then???? Can't you see out of these cars at all? Sheer stupidity.
John
Well, if they had IV in the frame, that would hafta have been The Danicle.
-Kevin
Whats this about Matsura hitting a service truck under the yellow?
:saywhat: :rofl:
Apparently not Matsura's fault. As the line of cars was pulling down onto pitlane to avoid the accident, a service truck pulled out in front of Matsura. He apparently had nowhere to go.
TKGAngel
07-17-05, 06:45 PM
How long until IV takes out their golden egg?
Probably by the end of this season.
With all the mileage that the IRL/ESPN has been getting out of Danica this year, it really would not suprise me if later this year we had a "Danica and (Insert Fiancee Name Here) Get Married" type of show on ESPN or ABC.
Franchitti must've gotten the only good suspension to come out of the AGR shop this week, considering his teammates all dropped due to broken suspensions. I thought it odd that the three out of the race were standing around in Franchitti's pit watching. It seemed like they were all forced to be there, in a sort of made for TV moment.
And next week's AJ Foyt 225 - does that refer to Foyt's weight or to the number of cars IV has wrecked in his IRL career? ;)
And next week's AJ Foyt 225 - does that refer to Foyt's weight or to the number of cars IV has wrecked in his IRL career? ;)
:rofl:
Oh lordy, surely not his weight, that's well above 225.
Perhaps 225 means the number of laps under yeller? Or the number of mentions about Danicle/hour? But, hey, seriously....it's just a number. :D
-Kevin
JohnHKart
07-18-05, 02:54 AM
Does their constant mention of SAFER barrier combined with broken back after broken back instill any confidence in the barrier or the safety of the IRL? It seems the "it would've been worse without it" argument just shows how unsafe the IRL chassis really is. No wonder Mikey and Adrian retired quickly.
Yup and Gil De Ferran retired very quickly also.
John
:rofl:
Oh lordy, surely not his weight, that's well above 225.
-Kevin
Kilos my boy,kilos. :p
theunions
07-18-05, 02:44 PM
With all the mileage that the IRL/ESPN has been getting out of Danica this year, it really would not suprise me if later this year we had a "Danica and (Insert Fiancee Name Here) Get Married" type of show on ESPN or ABC.
Except that Paul's seemingly gone out of his way to not give any interviews on-camera. You never hear from him except sporadically in print.
Racing Truth
07-18-05, 03:16 PM
Well, if they had IV in the frame, that would hafta have been The Danicle.
-Kevin
I think it was. :laugh:
Anyway, this surprises who? He only has a ride b/c of his name. Talent need not matter here. On top of that, 'ole Sammich doesn't have an engineer. Next thing you know, Eye-Vee can't get out of his own way. :gomer:
B3RACER1a
07-18-05, 03:55 PM
Apparently not Matsura's fault. As the line of cars was pulling down onto pitlane to avoid the accident, a service truck pulled out in front of Matsura. He apparently had nowhere to go.
I wasnt aware Dr. Jack was still driving in the IRL.
:D
Lizzerd
07-18-05, 09:49 PM
Anyway, this surprises who? He only has a ride b/c of his name. :gomer:
And grandpa. Maybe that's what you meant. I just took it a step further, I guess... :D
Steve99
07-19-05, 08:15 PM
I thought it odd that the three out of the race were standing around in Franchitti's pit watching. It seemed like they were all forced to be there, in a sort of made for TV
On WindTunnel Dave DePain was sure to mention this as a sign of how "close" the team is. I think this was after Kanaan said he thinks Wheldon is the sexiest driver.
*Special Futility Update*
AJ4 will also be racing a Silver Crown car at Milwaukee. That is going to be good!
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