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Ankf00
03-05-05, 02:52 PM
courtesy racermike:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=2026&e=6&u=/latimests/20050305/ts_latimes/subaruattopinqualitysurvey


Subaru, the Japanese automaker known for its all-wheel-drive vehicles, won the top spot for the highest-quality brand among new cars in Consumer Reports' annual automotive issue.

The magazine's annual survey of product quality and performance, which hits newsstands Tuesday but has already gone to subscribers, ranks Japanese and South Korean automakers tops for quality. U.S. brands are second but fall below the industry average, and Europeans rank a distant third.

Subaru jumped 16 places to become the most reliable automotive brand overall for 2004 models. It's the first time Subaru finished in the top spot in the 26 years Consumer Reports has conducted the survey.

Subaru owners reported eight problems per 100 cars and SUVs sold — an 8% problem rate. Honda was the second-highest-rated brand at 9%, and Toyota took third at 10%. Lexus, last year's leader, fell to fourth with an 11% rate.

In another surprise, the magazine found South Korean automaker Hyundai Motor Co.'s mid-size Sonata sedan to be the most reliable car in the U.S. last year, with just two problems reported for every 100 cars sold.

racermike
03-05-05, 03:30 PM
Subaru's kick arse!

http://www.engine-power.com/img/specs/subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_05.jpg

racer2c
03-05-05, 03:53 PM
Subaru owners reported eight problems per 100 cars and SUVs sold — an 8% problem rate.

20 somethings just deal with the problems. They don't bother reporting them. :gomer:

The WRX is a wicked machine, but if I was in the market for a 'street rally' car, I'd have to go with the EVO.

Ankf00
03-05-05, 04:04 PM
I'd have to go with the EVO.

HERETIC! HERETIC! BUUUURN HIIIIIIM! :flame:

but ya, I don't think too many ricer kids subscribe to and respond to consumer reports' survey :gomer: oh well, mythical championship anyways :p

Sean O'Gorman
03-05-05, 04:32 PM
Too bad every WRX eventually ends up blowing its tranny from high speed launches. :)

Methanolandbrats
03-05-05, 05:40 PM
Consumer Reports? WGAF. Buy what ya like driving, if it breaks, fix it. Some of the worst cars had almost 50 problems per 100 cars..........damn, that's almost 1/2 of a problem per car :laugh: Anything from a scratched armrest to a blown transmission is classified as a "problem" to those dicks. That rag is beyond useless.

nrc
03-05-05, 05:58 PM
Consumer Reports is for people who buy cars like they buy refrigerators.

Besides, all those cars go "boing, boing, boing." :D

oddlycalm
03-05-05, 06:20 PM
Consumer Reports is for people who buy cars like they buy refrigerators. Exactly right, and I'd add to that they likely own boring refrigerators as well.

An old farmer who was a customer of mine was telling me about his Minneapolis Moline tractor. During WWII he was unable to buy a McCormack Deering (later to be come Farmall & International), so he had to settle for what he could get which was a Minneapolis Moline. He told me; "Yep, I couldn't break the damn thing and never got to like it either." It was still running strong as we spoke in 1974 and he never passed up a chance to diss it. What good is reliability if there is no satisfaction of ownership...?

oc

Al Czervik
03-06-05, 12:03 AM
Check out who is on the BOD of CR. Anti-Car from head to toe.

Of course, I bought a good toaster on the recommendation of Road & Track :D

Ankf00
03-06-05, 09:16 PM
subaru is still teh pwn.

FU to all of j00 haters. :p

racer2c
03-06-05, 10:53 PM
subaru is still teh pwn.

FU to all of j00 haters. :p

I know lots of girls that love their Subarus.

racer2c
03-07-05, 11:24 AM
CNN/ Moneys report of the same Consumer Report article. (http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/04/pf/autos/bc.autos.survey.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes)


Reliability results this year were based on responses from Consumer Report subscribers about a record 810,000 privately owned or leased cars and trucks.

Japanese and Korean automakers once again produced the most trouble-free models, with an overall problem rate of 12 per 100 for the 2004 model year, the same rate they have had for the last three years, Consumer Reports said.

It said GM, Ford and the Chrysler side of DaimlerChrysler AG inched closer to the Asians with an overall problem rate of 17 per 100, however. That matched the industry average and was down from a combined rate of 18 per 100 last year.

By contrast, the problem rate for European automakers rose slightly to 21 per 100 from 20 last year.

"Mercedes-Benz, Volkswagen, and Volvo had more than their fair share of problems. Only Audi came out better than average," the magazine said.

Jag_Warrior
03-07-05, 04:36 PM
I know lots of girls that love their Subarus.

And I know a guy who loves girls who love their Subarus. ;)

racer2c
03-07-05, 04:41 PM
And I know a guy who loves girls who love their Subarus. ;)

no offense JW, just givin' Ank a hardtime. ;)

Ankf00
03-07-05, 04:52 PM
And I know a guy who loves girls who love their Subarus. ;)

werd. :cool:

indyfan31
03-07-05, 05:13 PM
subaru is still teh pwn.

Ok, I give, what does that mean?

racer2c
03-07-05, 05:32 PM
Ok, I give, what does that mean?

It means he's under 25. :)

oddlycalm
03-07-05, 05:43 PM
subaru is still teh pwn.

FU to all of j00 haters. :p Nah, I'm a long-time Consumer Reports hater, Fuji/Subaru just got drug into it by association.

oc

indyfan31
03-07-05, 06:41 PM
It means he's under 25. :)
Good God I'm old, I don't even get the jokes now!

Ankf00
03-07-05, 07:36 PM
OGorman posted a language conversion guide a short while back. You need to go study :p

Sean O'Gorman
03-07-05, 08:54 PM
Ok, I give, what does that mean?

Your guide to 1337 sp34k:

http://www.offcamber.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6746

Definitions:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teh&r=f

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwn&r=f

Quiz on Wednesday. No open book or open notes.

Jag_Warrior
03-08-05, 11:56 PM
no offense JW, just givin' Ank a hardtime. ;)

None taken. 250+/- easy, trouble-free horsepower and sweet handling. I'm secure in my "carhood".

I don't f' with Corvettes. But about anything else is fair game... especially on curves. :)

indyfan31
03-09-05, 01:33 PM
Your guide to 1337 sp34k:

Definitions:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teh&r=f

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pwn&r=f

Quiz on Wednesday. No open book or open notes.

So, some teenager with a cell phone misspells a 3 letter word and it becomes a catchphrase? Good God we're starved for entertainment.

Sean O'Gorman
03-09-05, 01:35 PM
So, some teenager with a cell phone misspells a 3 letter word and it becomes a catchphrase? Good God we're starved for entertainment.

Don't look at me, your generation raised us. :laugh:

I think yesterday after playing Super Smash Bros on GameCube at school yesterday, I now fully understand why half the kids yougner than me have ADD. :saywhat:

racer2c
03-09-05, 02:09 PM
So, some teenager with a cell phone misspells a 3 letter word and it becomes a catchphrase? Good God we're starved for entertainment.

I don't know about teenagers and cell phones, but I agree with this diffinition of 'leet speak'.


'l33t1 speak' is a unique language because it cannot truly be spoken out loud nor can it successfully be handwritten; it is an Internet-based language reliant on the keyboard. It is, however, simple to learn and has much room for creativity.

History

The Dawn of the Internet

As the Internet was coming into its own, during the early 1980s, hackers that didn't want their websites, newsgroups, etc, to be picked up in a simple keyword search began using numbers to replace certain letters (mostly vowels) such as A = 4 or E = 3.

At this point, l33t speak was only known to a select few and only used when necessary. However, in 1994, id Software began to add Internet connectivity to Doom and Doom II, leading to a revolution in PC gaming and also to the rise of l33t speak.

As with any type of competition, 'smack' talk became prevalent in online gaming. Phrases such as 'I am elite' became common place, and somewhere down the line l33t speak crept in, reforming the phrase into '1 4m 3l1t3' in order to demonstrate that the speaker was a hacker and someone to be feared. It was further exaggerated by purposeful bad spelling and eventually wound up as something like this, '1 4m 3l33t!' and simplified to, '1 4m 133t'. Hence the name 'l33t speak'.

But eventually, l33t speak began to fall out of use because of the amount of time it takes to type, as well as the overuse of it by some, changing it from amusing to annoying.

Link (http://http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A787917)

Ankf00
03-09-05, 03:26 PM
So, some teenager with a cell phone misspells a 3 letter word and it becomes a catchphrase? Good God we're starved for entertainment.

I'm sure there's blazing saddles playing on some cable channel with adverts for geritol right now :gomer:

oddlycalm
03-09-05, 03:47 PM
So, some teenager with a cell phone misspells a 3 letter word and it becomes a catchphrase? Good God we're starved for entertainment. Nah, it's just that medical science has yet to discover that ADD results from a communicable virus that only rarely infects those over 21. Anyway, I'm off to old age day care where I'll get my Geritol enema. However, I'll be driving there in my Scoobiedo killer.... ;)

oc

indyfan31
03-09-05, 10:49 PM
Say, those l33t speaking teenagers get a little t3sty, don't they? ;)

RacinM3
03-09-05, 11:01 PM
Great cars. Almost bought an STi when I got rid of my M3. Then I got in and saw that interior made of what apparenty was recycled plastic milk cartons. I mean the interiors are POS's.

Great performenrs, though.