PDA

View Full Version : The big ISC/openwheel announcement...



Racewriter
01-21-05, 02:44 PM
...has squat to do with the IRL.


Thanks to Curt Cavin and today's Indy Star.

France's 'Silver' news

NASCAR founder Bill France Jr. recently raised eyebrows when he alluded to expected news out of open-wheel racing. Speculation immediately turned to common engine specifications for NASCAR and the IRL as the latter considers major changes for 2007.

It turns out the Jan. 29 announcement at the Copper World Classic in Phoenix has little to do with the IRL. International Speedway Corp. will detail its plan to stage five of the U.S. Auto Club's reworked Silver Crown races in 2006.

USAC has developed a prototype speedway car that will allow the Silver Crown division to race on tracks larger than 1 mile in length. Previously, the series only raced on shorter tracks that have slower cornering speeds.

According to USAC president Rollie Helmling, the Silver Crown series in 2006 will add three 1.5-mile tracks -- Homestead, Kansas and Chicagoland -- to go with the two ISC-owned tracks it currently utilizes (Phoenix and Richmond, Va.).

I don't think Tony's hammer will do much on a tube frame...

Wheel-Nut
01-21-05, 02:56 PM
So, does this mean NASCAR has just made USAC's Silver Crown Series a feeder to NASCAR?

FCYTravis
01-21-05, 03:05 PM
So, does this mean NASCAR has just made USAC's Silver Crown Series a feeder to NASCAR?
They're just making official what everyone's known for years.

racer2c
01-21-05, 03:22 PM
It means Tony has cars for his five hunerd.

RichK
01-21-05, 03:25 PM
:laugh:
The last hope for the earl just twirled down the drain.

cart7
01-21-05, 03:36 PM
...has squat to do with the IRL.



I don't think Tony's hammer will do much on a tube frame...

What are the possibilities of the new Speedway Silver Crown division becoming the spec for 2007 and beyond in the earl?

rabbit
01-21-05, 03:48 PM
What are the possibilities of the new Speedway Silver Crown division becoming the spec for 2007 and beyond in the earl?
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6739.jpg
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6733.jpg
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6736.jpg
We can only hope. :rofl:

Brickman
01-21-05, 03:56 PM
http://www.fordracing.com/news/index.asp?flashcheck=1&article=27129&bhcp=1

JoeBob
01-21-05, 03:57 PM
I've really been hoping that is just an unflattering paintjob on the speedway silver crown car.

Honestly, if TG had done something inventive like the above car a decade ago, I'm not so sure there'd be nearly as much animosity towards him. Rather than try to wrestle control of American formula car racing by producing "CART-Lite" he would have been much better off thinking outside the box and going in a new direction for his race. We might have still thought he was an idiot, but at least he would have been an idiot with a new idea.

Brickman
01-21-05, 04:23 PM
I've really been hoping that is just an unflattering paintjob on the speedway silver crown car.

Honestly, if TG had done something inventive like the above car a decade ago, I'm not so sure there'd be nearly as much animosity towards him. Rather than try to wrestle control of American formula car racing by producing "CART-Lite" he would have been much better off thinking outside the box and going in a new direction for his race. We might have still thought he was an idiot, but at least he would have been an idiot with a new idea.

I agreed with you when you said this in 2003 about the new Silver Crown Car.

"If this thing works out, this would be the perfect formula for the IRL to adopt after the Toyota and Honda contracts run out after 2005. I wouldn't be shocked to see these cars running at Indy in May 2006. Spend a year or two developing the formula, then make it the big leagues.

Heck, IMS should have declared this the formula in 1996."~JoeBob

JoeBob
01-21-05, 04:28 PM
Glad to see that I'm still right.

I'm a little less glad to feel like I have a stalker. :p

JT265
01-21-05, 04:36 PM
Glad to see that I'm still right.

I'm a little less glad to feel like I have a stalker. :p
:rofl: :rofl:

Brickman
01-21-05, 04:37 PM
Glad to see that I'm still right.

I'm a little less glad to feel like I have a stalker. :p

:laugh:

Yea you and Spicoli both. ;)

Not my fault I have a good memory, not even bookmarked, found it in 2 minutes. I take notice of people using common sense, so they tend to stick out in my mind.

Skater_36
01-21-05, 05:07 PM
[QUOTE=JoeBob]I've really been hoping that is just an unflattering paintjob on the speedway silver crown car.
QUOTE]

No, it's just a really ugly car period.

RichK
01-21-05, 05:13 PM
Watch out, JoeBob!

http://www.moviemantz.com/review_shots/LooneyTunesBugsJenna.jpg

cart7
01-21-05, 05:22 PM
I've really been hoping that is just an unflattering paintjob on the speedway silver crown car.

Honestly, if TG had done something inventive like the above car a decade ago, I'm not so sure there'd be nearly as much animosity towards him. Rather than try to wrestle control of American formula car racing by producing "CART-Lite" he would have been much better off thinking outside the box and going in a new direction for his race. We might have still thought he was an idiot, but at least he would have been an idiot with a new idea.

It's real cheap and he's already got a nationwide ladder system built in. It makes so much sense I have no doubt TG will never think of it.

Sean O'Gorman
01-21-05, 06:08 PM
I can't wait until the IRL engine press conference:

"We have good news and bad news today.

The bad news is that we do not have any engine manufacturers for the 2006 season and thus will be forced to shut things down at the end of the year.

The good news is that I signed a bunch of money by switching my insurance to Geico."

nissan gtp
01-21-05, 06:32 PM
I can't wait until the IRL engine press conference:

"We have good news and bad news today.

The bad news is that we do not have any engine manufacturers for the 2006 season and thus will be forced to shut things down at the end of the year.

The good news is that I signed a bunch of money by switching my insurance to Geico."

:rofl: :rofl:

Skater_36
01-21-05, 09:44 PM
http://www.majorwoody.org/tombstone.jpg

Racewriter
01-21-05, 10:33 PM
I've really been hoping that is just an unflattering paintjob on the speedway silver crown car.


It is. I saw the car in the metal, and I didn't think it looked bad. But, then again, the looks of race cars are less important to me than the racing they put on.

Nose and sidepods will be controlled, dimension wise, but will not be single-sourced. There will be some room for design in it.

The lemmings are swearing up and down that this wasn't "really" the announcement that Bill France was talking about, and that NASCAR is gonna save the IRL anyway.

:rofl: :rofl:

racer2c
01-21-05, 10:49 PM
The lemmings are swearing up and down that this wasn't "really" the announcement that Bill France was talking about, and that NASCAR is gonna save the IRL anyway.

:rofl: :rofl:

Now that is funny! :rofl:

rabbit
01-21-05, 11:02 PM
The lemmings are swearing up and down that this wasn't "really" the announcement that Bill France was talking about, and that NASCAR is gonna save the IRL anyway.

:rofl: :rofl:Wait a minute, if Tony already saved open wheel, why does the savior need saving? :saywhat:

(It's a rhetorical question.)

:gomer:

Brickman
01-22-05, 12:13 AM
The lemmings are swearing up and down that this wasn't "really" the announcement that Bill France was talking about, and that NASCAR is gonna save the IRL anyway.



Only IF they buy it.

nrc
01-22-05, 12:20 AM
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6739.jpg
Hey look, an open cockpit Daytona Prototype!

Sean O'Gorman
01-22-05, 12:21 AM
:rolleyes:

racer2c
01-22-05, 12:23 AM
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6739.jpg
Hey look, an open cockpit Daytona Prototype!

ROFL!!!! :rofl:

fourrunner
01-22-05, 07:06 AM
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6739.jpg
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6733.jpg
http://www.usacracing.com/Pics/Dsc_6736.jpg
We can only hope. :rofl:


It's Beautiful in a Sarah Fisher kind of way ! ;)

cart7
01-22-05, 07:15 AM
With all respect to the short track fans, even they think the thing is FUGLY.

oddlycalm
01-22-05, 03:27 PM
Hey look, an open cockpit Daytona Prototype! :D :laugh: :rofl: Ten points for hitting the center ring on your first shot... :thumbup:

"In a move designed to make certain the US continues as the laughing stock of international motor sport community, USAC formally announced Formula Ugly today. Based on the time honored amusement park bumper car, and featuring technology that was outdated 30yrs ago, USAC feels it has a formula that is a perfect fit for the dumb-is-cool audiences found at ISC tracks. "

oc

RTKar
01-22-05, 04:15 PM
That is one ugly racecar...might as well put fenders on 'em too.

Sean O'Gorman
01-22-05, 05:00 PM
Yeah, they are ugly as hell, but I'm not going to discredit the drivers of them. Those cars look hard as hell to drive, I have the utmost respect for short track racers, even if it isn't close to being my preferred form of racing.

Skater_36
01-23-05, 11:29 AM
That is one ugly racecar...might as well put fenders on 'em too.

Humpy Wheeler proposed fenders that blended into the sidepods for open wheel cars a few years ago. This car is about as close as anyone has come to that.

Mr. Vengeance
01-23-05, 12:06 PM
It's Beautiful in a Sarah Fisher kind of way ! ;)

"Beauty is only a light switch away".

Hot Rod Otis
01-23-05, 01:53 PM
"Beauty is only a light switch away".

Or a 12 pack.