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Easy
08-25-04, 09:28 AM
Did anyone catch why Cale Yarborough was wearing a Honda hat during his interview on Wind Tunnel last night?

RTKar
08-25-04, 09:34 AM
I saw that too and was wondering about it. Considering he's one of the historic "names" of Nascar, it seemed strange to me. Is he a Honda dealer or was it a hint of things to come?

pchall
08-25-04, 09:54 AM
I saw that too and was wondering about it. Considering he's one of the historical "names" of Nascar, it seemed strange to me. Is he a Honda dealer or was it a hint of things to come?

Why didn't that brilliant interviewer, Dave Depain, ask him about it?

4wheeldrifter
08-25-04, 09:57 AM
Must have been nostalgia. You know, from all those Daytona 500's he won in his Accord. :rolleyes:

RTKar
08-25-04, 10:00 AM
Why didn't that brilliant interviewer, Dave Depain, ask him about it?

I was wondering that too.....

Wheel-Nut
08-25-04, 10:04 AM
After a quick search it looks like he owns a Honda / Mazda dealership in South Carolina.

http://www.car-buying-strategies.com/honda-dealers/sc/florence-honda-dealers.html

Steve99
08-25-04, 12:29 PM
So one of the original good ol' boys owns a dealership that only sells furrin' cars. And the diehard NASCAR fans don't want to allow Honda or Toyota into Cup. You can't make this stuff up. :rofl:

pchall
08-25-04, 02:41 PM
So one of the original good ol' boys owns a dealership that only sells furrin' cars. And the diehard NASCAR fans don't want to allow Honda or Toyota into Cup. You can't make this stuff up. :rofl:

Of course, we need to remember that Booby Rahal's Honda dealership probably figures into his nefarious dealings with the principals in OWRS earlier this year.

As for NASCAR, Toyota bought ol' DW to legitimize their Crapsman Trucks effort. Enough ¥¥¥ will seduce even Cale to front for Honda's entry.

theunions
08-25-04, 02:47 PM
As for NASCAR, Toyota bought ol' DW to legitimize their Crapsman Trucks effort.

Didn't he also have a Japanese auto dealership (can't recall which brand) well before that?

RichK
08-25-04, 02:59 PM
Meanwhile, I see temporary plates out here with Jimmy Vasser Chevrolet (http://www.cars.com/jimmyvasser/) on them!

Rogue Leader
08-25-04, 06:06 PM
As for NASCAR, Toyota bought ol' DW to legitimize their Crapsman Trucks effort. Enough ¥¥¥ will seduce even Cale to front for Honda's entry.

DW has had a (very successful) Toyota Dealership since the early 90's. He wasnt bought out by the Yen, however the fact he owned a dealer may have helped get him into Toyotas trucks to help that program.

Mr. Vengeance
08-25-04, 07:34 PM
Meanwhile, I see temporary plates out here with Jimmy Vasser Chevrolet (http://www.cars.com/jimmyvasser/) on them!

Jeez, toyota and Ford, too... Strange place, this racing world....

JohnHKart
08-25-04, 07:44 PM
Jeez and imagine this, Mercedes and Toyotas built in America, and I just found out last week my 93 Ford Escort was built in Mexico!

John

Ziggy
08-25-04, 11:15 PM
Rusty Wallace owns a huge Honda dealership in Knoxville TN. Freakin' huge

I think Roger gave it to him when he started Penske South (no kidding)

AwwwwwwMaaaaaaan that RRRRRRRRRusty. He just looks and sounds dumb

Turn7
08-26-04, 09:31 AM
So one of the original good ol' boys owns a dealership that only sells furrin' cars. And the diehard NASCAR fans don't want to allow Honda or Toyota into Cup. You can't make this stuff up. :rofl:

Cal is not on the "A" list of the NASCAR elite every since he became the leading spokesman for the failed venture known as TRAC. Daring to try and take something away from the Frances which will not set well in Daytona.

Brickman
08-26-04, 11:10 AM
Rusty Wallace owns a huge Honda dealership in Knoxville TN. Freakin' huge

I think Roger gave it to him when he started Penske South (no kidding)

AwwwwwwMaaaaaaan that RRRRRRRRRusty. He just looks and sounds dumb

I always liked Rusty, a real hands on driver who could set up a car and understand that driving was more than turning left. Rusty, Terry Labonte, Mark Martin, Bill Elliot should be heading off in the sunset any year now.

Winston Wolfe
08-26-04, 01:03 PM
Rusty Wallace owns a huge Honda dealership in Knoxville TN. Freakin' huge

I think Roger gave it to him when he started Penske South (no kidding)

AwwwwwwMaaaaaaan that RRRRRRRRRusty. He just looks and sounds dumb

What's wrong with a little bit of good ol' CAPITALISM ?

These boys have owned Honda dealerships for some time, and if they were suggested by their "investment strategists" then those guys have earned they pay. A Honda dealership can bring a multiple of 4-5x earnings these days and a typical dealership can net approx $800k per year, so these guys aint so stoopid and ig-nant after all.

In fact, Darrell Waltrip, Cale, AJ, and yup, Rusty, too, all have Honda stores, and Rahole has got a real good one as well. There are several guys who own Toyota stores as well, and Roger Penske owns Toy, Honda, and Merc amongst others. Good investments and good money earners, especially if you own the dirt and the building.

Yeeee-Haaaaa !!!! Aint them gosh durned Honda's doing real great out there today.... "My Home Depot / Motorola / Honda powered Accord was runnin' reaaallllll good out there today, before Jimmy in that Toyota got real close to me in the last few laps" - how long before we hear sumpthin' like that ???? :gomer:

RichK
08-26-04, 01:17 PM
What's wrong with a little bit of good ol' CAPITALISM ?


Nothing wrong with it, but it's funny to drive through North Carolina and see tons of Tauruses and Expeditions with "2" stickers on them, and know that ol' Rusty sells Hondas on the side while his boss sells Toyotas.

Fans can be sheep sometimes.

rjohnson999
08-26-04, 01:23 PM
Rusty's boss, actually, the company Roger has control over, U.S. Autogroup, has multiples of every franchise currently selling cars in the U.S. It would seem some people are so engrossed in their racing obsession they missed the big change in the retail autombile industry that's been underway for the past dozen years.


Nothing wrong with it, but it's funny to drive through North Carolina and see tons of Tauruses and Expeditions with "2" stickers on them, and know that ol' Rusty sells Hondas on the side while his boss sells Toyotas.

Fans can be sheep sometimes.

RichK
08-26-04, 01:26 PM
It would seem some people are so engrossed in their racing obsession they missed the big change in the retail autombile industry that's been underway for the past dozen years.

Maybe some of us don't care about the retail automobile industry! Of course, racing is getting just as boring lately.

rjohnson999
08-26-04, 04:03 PM
Oh? From the way some of you talk about it, who could tell?


Maybe some of us don't care about the retail automobile industry! Of course, racing is getting just as boring lately.

RichK
08-26-04, 04:40 PM
Oh? From the way some of you talk about it, who could tell?

Not sure what your point is, but there is an interest when it affects the racing. That's why some of us come to a racing-specific site, because we are engrossed in racing. Thanks for pointing out that it's a bad thing.

Up until your posts, it was some friendly conversation about guys who race X but sell Y on the side.

Ziggy
08-26-04, 07:16 PM
I figured everybody knew that these guys owned dealerships?

Does Vasser own a Chevy dealership? I didnt know that one. Where is it?

Cam
08-26-04, 07:22 PM
Does Vasser own a Chevy dealership? I didnt know that one. Where is it?

California (http://www.cars.com/jimmyvasser/about.html) :D

RichK
08-26-04, 07:28 PM
I just found out about Vasser Chevrolet a couple weeks ago. Saw a new 'Vette with the paper plates on it.

rjohnson999
08-26-04, 07:53 PM
My point, which you seem to desperately want to avoid, is that what retail auto franchise a race car driver or anyone else involved in the sport has is a meaningless discussion in the context of racing due to the changes that have taken place in the retail industry. It doesn't affect the racing. No one in this "discussion" has been able to draw anything more than uninformed speculative conjecture about franchises and racing. I guess you'd rather speculate in ignorance rather than become informed.


Not sure what your point is, but there is an interest when it affects the racing. That's why some of us come to a racing-specific site, because we are engrossed in racing. Thanks for pointing out that it's a bad thing.

Up until your posts, it was some friendly conversation about guys who race X but sell Y on the side.

Mr. Vengeance
08-26-04, 08:13 PM
screw it. never mind.... :shakehead

skaven
08-27-04, 01:49 AM
My point...(snip) a meaningless discussion (snip)...

I guess you'd rather speculate in ignorance rather than become informed.

Yes, that is much preferable than being "informed" by you.

How about this: Cale Yarborough is wearing a Honda hat because Honda is bidding to be the track sponsor of Talladegy which is going to be airlifted to San Francisco. Cale is going to be the go between between NASCAR and Honda and will perform same sex marriages at a faux pogoda on the side.

Yep, that was much more enjoyable than dealing with you.

skaven
08-27-04, 01:52 AM
Whoops. Spelling. Replace "pogoda" with "pogonip." :)

Winston Wolfe
08-27-04, 06:43 AM
Yes, that is much preferable than being "informed" by you.

How about this: Cale Yarborough is wearing a Honda hat because Honda is bidding to be the track sponsor of Talladegy which is going to be airlifted to San Francisco. Cale is going to be the go between between NASCAR and Honda and will perform same sex marriages at a faux pogoda on the side.
.

You may have to help me out on this one...
How does Honda get into NAPCAB when they dont make a V8 engine?
Toy did because of the Tundra.

How is Honda going to get the Talladega track sponsorship ? Why would be a more appropriate question, I think.

chop456
08-27-04, 07:01 AM
You may have to help me out on this one...
How does Honda get into NAPCAB when they dont make a V8 engine?
Toy did because of the Tundra.


Is that a rule that some unrelated car in your model lineup can have a V-8, and that qualifies? Obviously none of the other cup cars true production models fit the bill.

RaceGrrl
08-27-04, 09:50 AM
Rusty's boss, actually, the company Roger has control over, U.S. Autogroup, has multiples of every franchise currently selling cars in the U.S. It would seem some people are so engrossed in their racing obsession they missed the big change in the retail autombile industry that's been underway for the past dozen years.

It would seem that you're trying to pick a fight.

rjohnson999
08-27-04, 10:59 AM
Just pointing out the pointlessness of the discussion.


It would seem that you're trying to pick a fight.

RaceGrrl
08-27-04, 11:26 AM
If you find the discussion pointless, don't participate in it.

Steve99
08-27-04, 11:38 AM
If you find the discussion pointless, don't participate in it.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Steve99
08-27-04, 11:40 AM
How does Honda get into NAPCAB when they dont make a V8 engine?
How is Honda going to get the Talladega track sponsorship ?

I think I can answer these:
1) Send piles of money to NASCAR so they will let you in.
2) Send piles of money to ISC so they will let you sponsor.

Ziggy
08-28-04, 01:32 PM
Oh Mr Johnson

Honda has a concept truck they are taking around the country right now with a V8 in it. It was at the IRL Indy 500 display. A convertable/hauler/yuppie truck with alot of plastic on it. It was roped off, and I asked the guy if it had a V8 in it. His reply "yes"

hang me

rjohnson999
08-28-04, 02:00 PM
Why do you think this has anything to do with the issue of race drivers and team owners involvement in retail auto franchises?


Oh Mr Johnson

Honda has a concept truck they are taking around the country right now with a V8 in it. It was at the IRL Indy 500 display. A convertable/hauler/yuppie truck with alot of plastic on it. It was roped off, and I asked the guy if it had a V8 in it. His reply "yes"

hang me

Ziggy
08-29-04, 01:29 AM
Your correct again Mr Johnson

my reply was to WinstonWolf, who wrote

"You may have to help me out on this one...
How does Honda get into NAPCAB when they dont make a V8 engine?"

I got ahead of myself.

To answer your question, I dont have a problem with it. I have driven through South Carolina and Tennessee four times in the past two summers, and was fully aware that both Wallace and Cale had Asian car dealerships. Alot of drivers in the past have owned dealerships, or married into them;-)

On the other hand, in my home town of Indianapolis, the name Roger Penske was akin to Hitler until he came on board with Tony's Inbred Racin' League. Now the guy has autodealerships all over town, representing almost every brand (american and asian) Not to mention fingers in several other "world wide" companies that do business here in town.

racer2c
08-29-04, 10:42 AM
I need some clarification. I thought the Tundra V8 was a duel overhead cam(or even an overhead quad cam) engine, but of course the NASCAR version is a push rod, single internal cam engine. So, I'm assuming that the rule is that the manufacturer is required to build production V8's but it doesn't need to be a push rod V8? I still find it humorous that you can buy a street car with higher tech mechanics than a NASCAR racer. :p

Brickman
08-30-04, 11:58 AM
I need some clarification. I thought the Tundra V8 was a duel overhead cam(or even an overhead quad cam) engine, but of course the NASCAR version is a push rod, single internal cam engine. So, I'm assuming that the rule is that the manufacturer is required to build production V8's but it doesn't need to be a push rod V8? I still find it humorous that you can buy a street car with higher tech mechanics than a NASCAR racer. :p

Yes you could say they had to dumb down the engines to play in NASCAR's sand box. But in reality they had to do more work and do it better than any other manufacturer.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,594637,00.html

Winston Wolfe
09-01-04, 01:07 PM
Oh Mr Johnson

Honda has a concept truck they are taking around the country right now with a V8 in it. It was at the IRL Indy 500 display. A convertable/hauler/yuppie truck with alot of plastic on it. It was roped off, and I asked the guy if it had a V8 in it. His reply "yes"

hang me


He lied to you.
It will have a 3.8 liter V6 engine, which is a derivative of the V6 current found in the MDX, Pilot, and Odyssey, which is built at the engine plant in Anna, Ohio. Should be good for about 275 HP, or so, and will get about 26 MPG. Truck is going to be a "yuppie" truck fo' sho', as it is a unibiody
crossover thangy, just like the Pilot\MDX is now.... Might tow about 7,500 lbs, but there aint gonna be no V8, I can assure you of that !

No need for a rope, Zig...