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rabbit
02-12-03, 04:16 PM
According to SpeedChannel prez Jim Liberatore, we are all a bunch of "Nigels."


Nigels are in their blue blazers, with ascots, sipping martinis and watching these bazillion-dollar cars.
http://timesdispatch.com/sports/auto/MGB3VPD6YBD.html

Hmmm, I don't own a blue blazer OR an ascot (WTF is an ascot?:confused: :gomer: ) and I've never drank let alone sipped a martini.:shakehead

What a moron. And this is the guy in charge of SpeedChannel?! Heaven help us.

MightySurfClam
02-12-03, 04:28 PM
chill yo, he was being dramatic and over simplistic to make the explanation of the NASCAR vs road racing/OW demographics. Its fairly accurate though.

rabbit
02-12-03, 04:37 PM
Accurate? I don't know a single CART fan that remotely fits that description. So don't be dissin' my rap, G.

lone_groover
02-12-03, 04:48 PM
...Nigel is not outspoken
But he likes to speak
And loves to be spoken to
Nigel is happy in his work... ;)

mnkywrch
02-12-03, 04:50 PM
The anti-stock car racing crowd "views NASCAR like an imposing army of millions about to take over their country - and they're afraid NASCAR eventually will take over the whole channel," Liberatore said. "They have the Napoleon complex, where they're small, but they feel they're following true racing. It's so much better and purer."


Sounds like he understands things just right, if you ask me...

mapguy
02-12-03, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by lone_groover
...Nigel is not outspoken
But he likes to speak
And loves to be spoken to
Nigel is happy in his work... ;)

We've all been making plans for Nigel

Napoleon
02-12-03, 04:56 PM
" Liberatore said. "They have the Napoleon complex. . . ."

Now I take that one personally.

Ed_Severson
02-12-03, 04:59 PM
An ascot is one of those goofy, short ties.

They go nicely with blue blazers, martinis, and bazillion-dollar cars. ;)

MightySurfClam
02-12-03, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by rabbit
Accurate? I don't know a single CART fan that remotely fits that description. So don't be dissin' my rap, G.

fine, he should have used whine and cheese crowd instead ;)

mnkywrch
02-12-03, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Napoleon
" Liberatore said. "They have the Napoleon complex. . . ."

Now I take that one personally.

I would too if the president of Speed Channel called me "small". :laugh: :rofl:

datachicane
02-12-03, 05:05 PM
Arf, Arf, he goes, a merry sight
Our little hairy friend
Arf, Arf, upon the lampost bright
Arfing round the bend.
Nice dog! Goo boy,
Waggie tail and beg,
Clever Nigel, jump for joy
Because we are putting you to sleep at three of the clock, Nigel.

:eek:

lone_groover
02-12-03, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by MightySurfClam
fine, he should have used whine and cheese crowd instead ;)

What's with this bivalve?:rolleyes:

Gurneyflap
02-12-03, 06:15 PM
Ascot...didn't JC Agajanian wear one of those? Or was that a little track in California?

MightySurfClam
02-12-03, 06:16 PM
Dunno, what *is* with you? You guys seem to get all uppity and offended at anything someone says about CART. Relax and enjoy the upcoming season.

nrc
02-12-03, 06:18 PM
Well, it really is just another manifestation of the wine and cheese thing, which I've never had a problem with even though I don't drink wine. It's the same kind of thing as Pook saying that we don't drink Bud or drive pickups even though some of us do.

It's an attempt to characterize a specific demographic. Kind of like saying that IRL fans are toothless Indiana gomers even though we know that there are also a few from Texas.

nrc
02-12-03, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by MightySurfClam
Dunno, what *is* with you? You guys seem to get all uppity and offended at anything someone says about CART. Relax and enjoy the upcoming season.

No problemo. You just misspelled "wine" and people here are really sensitive to spelling errors. :)

lone_groover
02-12-03, 06:21 PM
HA HA...a few!

And they wear DICKIES instead of ASCOTS! :gomer:

Wheel-Nut
02-12-03, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Ed_Severson
An ascot is one of those goofy, short ties.



It worked for Angus Young!

RaceGrrl
02-12-03, 06:22 PM
I guess we're all a bunch of uppity nigels.

Fenster
02-12-03, 06:38 PM
Listen... I don't have time for rediculous things like this. I have bigger worries in life. My poodle just lost the Westminster Kennel Club show to a Kerry Blue Terrier named Mick. I mean, can you think of anything worse?! I am going to go drown myself in a $150 bottle of Silver Oaks Cabernet! Oh the pain!:rolleyes:


--Fenster.;)

Don Quixote
02-12-03, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Fenster
Listen... I don't have time for rediculous things like this. I have bigger worries in life. My poodle just lost the Westminster Kennel Club show to a Kerry Blue Terrier named Mick. I mean, can you think of anything worse?! I am going to go drown myself in a $150 bottle of Silver Oaks Cabernet! Oh the pain!:rolleyes:


--Fenster.;)

I feel your pain. Buffy and I were uttlerly shocked to see our opera tickets overlap with several ChampCar races this year. I'll never find the time to have my tux properly pressed.

Ed_Severson
02-12-03, 06:43 PM
Was your poodle wearing a smashing Italian ascot?

Should your answer be "no," I suggest you run away in shame!

trubritz
02-12-03, 07:16 PM
So I guess my collection of ascots should now be blown away ;)

datachicane
02-12-03, 07:19 PM
"I don't know, Gromit, it's like no cheese I've ever had."
:saywhat:

Gurneyflap
02-12-03, 09:18 PM
So, Fens...I was wondering. Are you gay? (I've seen movies) And, also, are those shows more rigged than a NASCAB plate race?

Railbird
02-12-03, 09:34 PM
At times, often as I don my jaunty gray berret, I feel dismayed by such utterings.

Fenster
02-12-03, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Gurneyflap
So, Fens...I was wondering. Are you gay? (I've seen movies) And, also, are those shows more rigged than a NASCAB plate race?

WHAT?!:confused:

Mr. Flap... you do realize that I was joking, don't you? You know... playing off the whole "wine and cheese crowd" thing as per the thread topic. I don't know the first thing about dog shows, only that it was in the news (CNN) all day today about this dog Mick. So...to answer your question... no! I am not gay. "Not that there is anything wrong with that."--Siefeld.


--Fenster.:saywhat:

JT265
02-12-03, 11:36 PM
HEY!

Any of you guys know where I can get a pair of those fruity lookin' little flaps that extend down over your ankles onto the tops of your shoes? Spats, I think they are?

And, to my horror, we attended a reception at the theatre last evening, and instead of the usual brie, Gwenyth indulged in the Cannonbear!:eek:

THE HORROR!!!

Ok, (slaps self in face), that was a hoot, but the truth is, I'm down to my last jar of cheese doodles, and the elastic just snapped in my last clean pair of underwear.

Drop the flag!

(sorry 'Bird!)

Oh, and I don't know if I spelled Cannonbear correctly either.;)

Lizzerd
02-12-03, 11:59 PM
I can usually be found wearing a T-shirt and jeans or sweat pants and chugging a beer. I'm a regular guy. I've never been to an opera, but I've been to the symphony a couple times. I'd rather go to a neighborhood pub and hear a decent local band. I love CART, F1, and all that other real racing. I'm sick of NASCAR being driven down my throat and am pretty much indifferent about it. I've never had a martini and I just learned what an ascot is. Where do I fit in?

cart7
02-13-03, 12:09 AM
Put me down for one OC ascot once you've got the on-line store up and running WB. :p

Wheel-Nut
02-13-03, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Lizzerd
I can usually be found wearing a T-shirt and jeans or sweat pants and chugging a beer. I'm a regular guy. I've never been to an opera, but I've been to the symphony a couple times. I'd rather go to a neighborhood pub and hear a decent local band. I love CART, F1, and all that other real racing. I'm sick of NASCAR being driven down my throat and am pretty much indifferent about it. I've never had a martini and I just learned what an ascot is. Where do I fit in?


I'm just a regular Joe too, can I watch CART?

The Following is a product of Denis Leary . . .
spoken)
Folks, I’d like to sing a song about the American dream.
About you, about me. About the way our American hearts beat
Way down in the bottom of our chests.

About that special feeling we get in the cockles of our hearts,
Maybe below the cockles, maybe in the sub-cockle area,
Maybe in the liver. Maybe in the kidneys. Maybe even in the colon - I don’t know.

(singing)
I’m just a regular Joe, with a regular job.
I’m your average white, suburbanite slob.
I like football, and porno, and books about war.
I’ve got an average house, with a nice hardwood floor.

My wife, and my job, my kids and my car,
My feet on my table - and a cuban cigar.

But sometimes that’s just not enough,
To keep a man like me interested!
(Oh no! No way! Uh uh!)

No, I gotta go out and have fun,
At someone else’s expense!
(Oh yeah! Yeah yeah! Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!)

I drive really slow, in the ultra-fast lane,
While people, behind me, are goin’ insane!

I’m an *******! (He’s an *******!) I’m an *******!
I’m an *******! (He’s a *******! Such an *******!)

I use public toilets, and I piss on the seats.
I walk around in the summertime sayin’ “How about this heat?”

I’m an *******! (He’s an *******! What an *******!)
I’m an *******! (He’s the world’s biggest *******!)

And sometimes I park, in handicapped spaces,
While handicapped people, make handicapped faces!

I’m an *******! (He’s an *******!) I’m an *******!
I’m an *******! (He’s a real ****ing *******!)

Maybe I shouldn’t be singin’ this song -
Ranting and raving and carrying on.
Maybe they’re right when they tell me I’m wrong.
. . . NAHHHHH!

I’m an *******! (He’s an *******! What an *******!)
I’m an *******! (He’s the world’s biggest *******!)

(spoken)
You know what I’m gonna do?
I’m gonna get myself a 1967 El Dorado convertible -
Hot pink! With whale-skin hubcaps, an all-leather cow interior,
and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights! Yeah!
And I’m gonna drive down the highway at 100 miles an hour,
Gettin’ one mile per gallon, wolfin’ down quarter pounder cheeseburgers from McDonalds
That come in those old-fashioned, non-biodegradeable styrofoam containers.
And when I’m done suckin’ down those greaseball burgers,
I’m gonna throw the containers right out the side,
And wipe my mouth on the American flag, and there’s not a God-damn thing anybody can do about it!
You know why? Two words - nuclear ****in’ weapons!
Russia, Germany, Romania, they can have all the democracy they want,
They can have a big democracy cakewalk right through the middle of Tiennamen Square
And it won’t make a lick of difference, because we got the bombs. Okay?
John Wayne’s not dead, he’s frozen! And when we find a cure for cancer,
We’re gonna thaw’r out the Duke and he’s gonna be pretty pissed off!
You know how pissed the Duke’s gonna be? Have you ever taken a cold shower?
Well multiply that by fifteen million and that’s how pissed the Duke’s gonna be.
I’m gonna get the Duke, and Lee Marvin, and John Casavetti and a case of Whiskey,
And I’m gonna drive down to Texas -

(Hey! Hey! Hey! HEY! You know you really are an *******?)
Why don’t ya just shut up and sing the song pal?

(sung)
I’m an *******! (I’m an *******!) I’m an ashole!
I’m an *******! (He’s the world’s biggest *******!)

A, S, S, H, O, L, E!
Everybody! A, S, S, H, O, L, E!
(trail into non-vocal chanting and barking)

(spoken)
I’m an *******, and I’m proud of it.

Hardpoint
02-13-03, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by mapguy
We've all been making plans for Nigel

Hah, hah,..... XTC.....Great reference!!!

pchall
02-13-03, 03:22 PM
I love finally being part of a recognizable stereotype. :)

I'll forgive them the little inconsistencies in the description as long as they understand that I have a good reason for being snobbish and elitist about motorsports and other things: my tastes are more discriminating.

Still refusing to apologize for higher standards after all these years. :p

datachicane
02-13-03, 03:51 PM
Well, I do go to the opera and the symphony, keep a nice camembert in the fridge, watch lots of foreign films, and think Tom Clancy and Stephen King can't write their way out of their respective paper bags.

I also drive a ratty old Mustang, wear Birkenstocks, tear down carburetors on the kitchen table and recognize that properly prepared Spam is a valuable component of camping cuisine.

Face it, none of us fit any stereotypes. That's why they suck.

Napoleon
02-13-03, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by datachicane
I also . . . tear down carburetors on the kitchen table . . .

LOL

You should have seen the look the wife gave me last night when I was installing a helicoil in a carb last night on the coffee table in the living room as I watched TV.

datachicane
02-13-03, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Napoleon
LOL

You should have seen the look the wife gave me last night when I was installing a helicoil in a carb last night on the coffee table in the living room as I watched TV.

You should have seen the look my wife gave me when she opened the door on her new Bosch dishwasher to reveal a top rack full of carb bowls. Personally, I thought they were set off nicely by the stainless steel dishwasher, but she's narrow minded about that sort of thing. :D

Here they are, all nice and sparkly:
http://www.open.org/~sge/ford200r.jpg

pchall
02-13-03, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Napoleon
LOL

You should have seen the look the wife gave me last night when I was installing a helicoil in a carb last night on the coffee table in the living room as I watched TV.

What wine and what cheese were you eating while you did that? We all know you are a notorious fruittycup-nancyboy-pointycar driver. ;)

The last time I rebuilt a carb it was on the kitchen table of a friend's apartment. She only had diet Pepsi in the fridge. At least that saved the price of a can of solvent/cleaner.

turn1
02-13-03, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by rabbit
Accurate? I don't know a single CART fan that remotely fits that description. So don't be dissin' my rap, G.

Rabbit, Rabbit, Rabbit......:rofl:

G.
02-17-03, 05:21 PM
Accurate? I don't know a single CART fan that remotely fits that description. So don't be dissin' my rap, G.

Who you calling G.?

Regards,
G.