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pchall
12-12-03, 01:38 PM
Engines Reduced to 3.0L For Indy... (http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/101544-6878-037.html)

I bet Toyota, Honda, and Chevworth are really happy about having to do yet another engine development program for 2004 despite the party line responses from Lee White and Joe Negri. Honda/Ilmor not quoted.

JT265
12-12-03, 01:49 PM
Outlaw negative chassis rake and they would go a long way too.

either that or outlaw them altogether. ;)

mapguy
12-12-03, 02:22 PM
What they really need to do is to determine the V1 and V2 of the sleds. Then figure out the Vmcl then set up ILS systems in each of the four corners at Indy.

:thumbup: That'll do the trick.

JT265
12-12-03, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by mapguy
What they really need to do is to determine the V1 and V2 of the sleds. Then figure out the Vmcl then set up ILS systems in each of the four corners at Indy.

:thumbup: That'll do the trick.

Relative to Delta V? :p

RobGuru
12-12-03, 02:29 PM
The problem is not with the engines. It is, as we all know, with the aerodynamics.

Changing the engine is like a doctor fixing a broken leg by putting the arm in a cast.

:flame:

racer2c
12-12-03, 02:46 PM
Just a PR spin to look like they are being proactive about the issue. In my opinion, it's just positioning towards a better road course configuration. Next thing you know, they'll add a turbo. ;)

mapguy
12-12-03, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by JT265
Relative to Delta V? :p

Don't wanna mention Delta. Ron Hemelgarn will get pissed. The buffet line hasn't been the same since they pulled the sponsorship.

cart7
12-12-03, 06:04 PM
So now the debris will be flying at the fans at just 220 mph vs. 230? Whew... that's a relief. :rolleyes:

Accipiter
12-12-03, 07:15 PM
I bet it takes them all of a season to make up the power difference.

Turn7
12-12-03, 07:40 PM
At the beginning of the article they say that the reduction will cause a 10% drop in hp and then at the end of the article it is quoted that it will cause a 90 hp drop.

Since when did a crapwagon have a 900 hp motor? More bs from the fertilizer machine.

Plus, what is chevy going to do, they just signed a contract with Cosworth to supply 3.5's not 3.0's.

Ziggy
12-13-03, 12:12 AM
Double down on the cylinder sleeve stock!!!

Ziggy

DaveL
12-13-03, 12:54 AM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Lemmings used to complain that one of the problems with CART was a lack of rules stability?

Hink
12-13-03, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by DaveL
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Lemmings used to complain that one of the problems with CART was a lack of rules stability?

We have a winner.

rabbit
12-13-03, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by DaveL
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Lemmings used to complain that one of the problems with CART was a lack of rules stability? I'm not exactly sure. But they did use to complain about engine leases, foreign drivers, foreign engines, road racers, greedy team owners, and street circuits. Does it really matter what they used to complain about? Via hindsight, we now realize everything they said pre-2001 is completely irrelevant.

ChrisB
12-13-03, 01:55 PM
Instead of the expense of retooling the cranks, rods, etc... wouldn't it have been easier to just stay with 3.5L and just lower the rpm limit? (and then go to 3.0L on the next cycle?)

Ziggy
12-13-03, 02:03 PM
I think they are ticking over at 10,000 rpm now. Honda Lawnmowers are approaching that number. I think they can lenghten the stroke and be fine (which will also make the rev ceiling lower in itself)

Ziggy