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RIP.
http://www.tmz.com/2016/04/21/prince-dead-at-57/
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Tragic. One of the greatest talents of our generation. I still think his Super Bowl halftime performance was the best ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NN3gsSf-Ys
HUGE loss. Controversy, 1999 and Sign 'O' the Times are in my CD collection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC34ZcDiCag
Epic guitar solo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y
EDIT: I love that he had to pushed back onstage and tossed his guitar at the end. Classic jam.
Napoleon
04-21-16, 02:10 PM
Wow. RIP Prince.
No cause of death listed in the NY Times blurb.
Napoleon
04-21-16, 02:33 PM
PS, a few years ago I heard this interesting story about him. Apparently he has a huge catalog of unreleased music, something like thousands and thousands of songs.
PS, a few years ago I heard this interesting story about him. Apparently he has a huge catalog of unreleased music, something like thousands and thousands of songs.
I'd bet on it. He had his own studio, and had many artists 'drop in' to record tracks.
Napoleon
04-21-16, 03:04 PM
I'd bet on it. He had his own studio, and had many artists 'drop in' to record tracks.
Apparently that was where he was found.
OK, what I listened to was the audio show done for the BBC based on this Guardian piece. Someone rebroadcasted it in the US on some NPR show:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/19/i-would-hide-4-u-whats-in-princes-secret-vault
Apparently that was where he was found.
OK, what I listened to was the audio show done for the BBC based on this Guardian piece. Someone rebroadcasted it in the US on some NPR show:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/19/i-would-hide-4-u-whats-in-princes-secret-vault
He also had the dispute with Warner Bros. Records when he changed his name to The Artist to screw with the licensing. Quite certain he was stockpiling music then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lmq6RDn5O8
TravelGal
04-21-16, 04:14 PM
Even as a non-fan, I realize what a huge loss this is. A true genius. I thought something was wrong when his plane made an emergency landing for medical reasons. They said he had the flu. huh? Awfully sad. :(
WickerBill
04-21-16, 04:15 PM
His super bowl halftime show was the best ever. His 2.5 minute live solo at the RnR HoF induction (skip to about 3:10 to find the groove before he hits the stage)...
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...was among the greatest ever. He was a little freak, but a hard working, all-about-the-show, amazing musician. Dangit. And Bernie Eccelstone still lives.
...And Bernie Eccelstone still lives.
He was only 57. C'mon, Jesus. That ain't right. :shakehead:
He was a recluse, but gave to many charities anonymously. He broke me from the disco era of my parental units (along with AC/DC, Sabbath, Led Zepp, KISS, and Queen). Controversy and 1999 were ground breaking. Period.
PS, a few years ago I heard this interesting story about him. Apparently he has a huge catalog of unreleased music, something like thousands and thousands of songs.
In talking about recording a documentary for Prince that would never be released Kevin Smith said that he was told that Prince had 50 fully produced videos for songs that had never been released.
TravelGal
04-21-16, 06:16 PM
He was only 57. C'mon, Jesus. That ain't right. :shakehead:
Yeah, I think that's the point. :irked:
He was only 57. C'mon, Jesus. That ain't right. :shakehead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoQgd8n0Gdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu3SHxmS5dk
TKGAngel
04-21-16, 07:41 PM
First Bowie. Now Prince. Someone put Sir Paul and Springsteen into plastic bubbles.
MTV has been showing Prince videos since 2pm this afternoon and is currently airing Purple Rain. Its a shame that someone had to die for the music television network to actually show music television.
MTV has been showing Prince videos since 2pm this afternoon and is currently airing Purple Rain. Its a shame that someone had to die for the music television network to actually show music television.
Amen. :thumbup:
Prince sat courtside at a Warriors game last month. He was in town to do two concerts, and asked the owner if he could come to a game.
The owner offered him his floor seats, and to say thanks, Prince held a third concert in the Warriors' arena the next night.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/The-night-Prince-sat-courtside-at-a-Warriors-game-7291687.php#photo-9496647
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devilmaster
04-22-16, 12:12 AM
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'We love you very very much. Goodnight.'
cameraman
04-22-16, 12:42 AM
Even as a non-fan, I realize what a huge loss this is. A true genius. I thought something was wrong when his plane made an emergency landing for medical reasons. They said he had the flu. huh? Awfully sad. :(
A bad case of the flu can progress to viral cardiomyopathy. It's rare and very bad luck and it can do you in quite quickly. The virus infects the heart muscle and the resulting inflammation can disrupt the waves of depolarization that control each heartbeat. You can end up with sudden cardiac syncope and that's pretty much the end of the story. :shakehead:
So far 2016 has sucked.
chop456
04-22-16, 02:22 AM
A bad case of the flu can progress to viral cardiomyopathy. It's rare and very bad luck and it can do you in quite quickly. The virus infects the heart muscle and the resulting inflammation can disrupt the waves of depolarization that control each heartbeat. You can end up with sudden cardiac syncope and that's pretty much the end of the story. :shakehead:
So far 2016 has sucked.
Does Narcan help that? Sad, as drugs were the last thing I would have suspected in his case. Not official yet, but as gross as TMZ is, they're usually accurate.
Napoleon
04-22-16, 06:50 AM
Sad, as drugs were the last thing I would have suspected in his case.
I will second that.
cameraman
04-22-16, 11:02 AM
It would be nice if they were wrong this time.
TravelGal
04-22-16, 11:20 AM
A bad case of the flu can progress to viral cardiomyopathy. It's rare and very bad luck and it can do you in quite quickly. The virus infects the heart muscle and the resulting inflammation can disrupt the waves of depolarization that control each heartbeat. You can end up with sudden cardiac syncope and that's pretty much the end of the story. :shakehead:
So far 2016 has sucked.
Actually, I knew that as it happened to one of my very closest friends. I was talking to him one afternoon sympathizing with how sick he felt; he was dead the next morning. He was washing his hands in the bathroom and just sank to the floor. My "huh?" was me trying to say politely that I didn't believe the "flu" story and thought it was drugs. As others have said, I'd still like to be wrong. It may turn out that there were many physical conditions leading to his death. It looks like he's carrying a cane in the pictures above at the Warriors game. Definitely agree about 2016 so far.
TKGAngel
04-22-16, 01:05 PM
Does Narcan help that? Sad, as drugs were the last thing I would have suspected in his case. Not official yet, but as gross as TMZ is, they're usually accurate.
Harvey Levin of TMZ had a big reporting error during the OJ case and got burned for it. He's made it a point to be accurate since and TMZ has usually been on the ball.
They're now reporting that last week's 'flu' was really a Percocet OD.
Harvey Levin of TMZ had a big reporting error during the OJ case and got burned for it. He's made it a point to be accurate since and TMZ has usually been on the ball.
They're now reporting that last week's 'flu' was really a Percocet OD.
When I saw the pics of him using the cane, I figured opioids were involved. EXTREMELY addicting. When I did my stint in rehab, there were so many 'kids' there for opi addiction rather than alcohol use. Of course now H is the current drug of choice. :( :\ I've never used them except when I had my gallbladder removed, but I made damn sure I didn't use them often. I have an uncle and former BIL that fall into that category. :saywhat: :\
I heard on noon news that he had experience pain following hip surgery in 2010 and that was the reason for the pain relievers. Whether that was the cause of death remains to be seen.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/princes-secret-health-battles-included-7808741
datachicane
04-22-16, 05:28 PM
Wow, rough, rough year for musicians.
WickerBill
04-23-16, 05:57 AM
I figured the cane was a typical Prince prop... almost Willy Wonka-style.
Napoleon
04-23-16, 09:06 AM
Seen in NYC
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If true, this Michael Jackson redux. :\
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555292/Prince-s-former-drug-dealer-reveals-extent-addiction.html
The Boss opens his show last night with Purple Rain. :thumbup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xRfWoskThk
EDIT: Nils' guitar solo rif is awesome.
Also nice tribute show on SNL last night hosted by Jimmy Fallon.
David Gilmore includes Purple Rain tribute in Comfortably Numb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcDHXoQmxu0
datachicane
04-28-16, 11:16 PM
Guy could flat play.
Just one old fart's opinion, but for purely selfish reasons I wish he'd chosen to showcase his guitar skills more than he did throughout his career. I never called myself a fan, but man, I could have.
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chop456
04-29-16, 04:36 AM
Guy could flat play.
Just one old fart's opinion, but for purely selfish reasons I wish he'd chosen to showcase his guitar skills more than he did throughout his career. I never called myself a fan, but man, I could have.
That's where I am, too. I think there were rumors years and years ago about him playing Hendrix in a biopic. I don't know that you could do much better than that.
WickerBill
04-29-16, 09:41 AM
data, I read an interview where he stated guitar wasn't his favorite instrument... he loved saxophone more and that's where he spent a lot of his time. Amazing to think about, really, when you hear his guitar work.
Years ago Kevin Smith told a long story about his week shooting documentary footage for Prince. Typical long Kevin Smith story with lots of NSFW language but it's a funny and interesting insight on Prince's world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LhcParuzpc
In his latest Fatman on Batman video podcast Smith eulogizes Prince, talks about what he meant as artist and cultural icon, and his own regrets for how he told the story, how he handled it, and never reconnecting with Prince further down the road when he understood it all better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW5oQigsZbw
data, I read an interview where he stated guitar wasn't his favorite instrument... he loved saxophone more and that's where he spent a lot of his time. Amazing to think about, really, when you hear his guitar work.
Speaking of which...turn it up and rip the knob off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6kMwqmanK0
Crimson and Clover with Sheila E on drums... I thought I'd hate it, but it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4odGpPzn2E
Napoleon
05-05-16, 07:27 AM
Crimson and Clover with Sheila E on drums... I thought I'd hate it, but it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4odGpPzn2E
I liked that.
Watching all these videos and listening to him again makes me realize I didn't really appreciate how really good he was on the guitar. I guess I need to go out and for the first time buy some of his stuff.
The NYT reports that an expert called in to help Prince with his painkiller addiction arrived the morning of his death. Opioid addiction is an epidemic in this country and if anything good comes of this maybe it will be greater attention to that problem.
www.nytimes.com/2016/05/05/arts/music/friends-sought-help-for-princes-addiction-lawyer-says.html
I didn't realize Prince's guitar abilities until his Super Bowl half time. It's funny because if you look at the old live TV performances it's there to see. I always liked Prince's more funky and pop-rock material and I enjoyed his videos, because hello? girls? But I would never bothered to watch when Prince was performing live on TV and I never considered that the guitar work evident in some of his music was actually his own. I think that was common among non-fans. Who would ever think that this guy could be as good musically as some of the pop, rock, and soul greats and then also be as good on guitar as some of the best?
Prince's Super Bowl "press conference".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VR895buz_U
The NYT reports that an expert called in to help Prince with his painkiller addiction arrived the morning of his death. Opioid addiction is an epidemic in this country and if anything good comes of this maybe it will be greater attention to that problem.
www.nytimes.com/2016/05/05/arts/music/friends-sought-help-for-princes-addiction-lawyer-says.html
I didn't realize Prince's guitar abilities until his Super Bowl half time. It's funny because if you look at the old live TV performances it's there to see. I always liked Prince's more funky and pop-rock material and I enjoyed his videos, because hello? girls? But I would never bothered to watch when Prince was performing live on TV and I never considered that the guitar work evident in some of his music was actually his own. I think that was common among non-fans. Who would ever think that this guy could be as good musically as some of the pop, rock, and soul greats and then also be as good on guitar as some of the best?
Prince's Super Bowl "press conference".
You must not have seen Purple Rain. His guitar skillz were quite evident back then. I go back to listening when Controversy was released (1981), but got a bit lost during the 'Artist' era.
Opioid addiction has been a major issue/area of focus in Ohio for the past several years. Much of the blame goes to lazy docs that prescribed them like Skittles for years. During my rehab stint, there were FAR more Oxy addicts than booze hounds. Now that the light has been shined on the 'oids, smack/horsey has become the epidemic du jour. Of course, meth is up there, too, despite restricting access to he likes of Sudafed, etc.
Napoleon
05-05-16, 03:01 PM
But I would never bothered to watch when Prince was performing live on TV and I never considered that the guitar work evident in some of his music was actually his own. I think that was common among non-fans. Who would ever think that this guy could be as good musically as some of the pop, rock, and soul greats and then also be as good on guitar as some of the best?
I was surprised to learn that many of his albums were just him, doing everything. I definitely sold him short on his talent. For me a lot of it had to be you look at him and think he is just a flamboyant show man, so he has to be a bit of a light weight, right? And for me I admit taking a disliking to him early (in a personal sense) when I read a Rolling Stone cover story on him that made me think he was a semi-delusional narcissist, plus you have to admit, he was a little weird.
Anyways, listening to his stuff the last couple of weeks, he has a hell of a music catalog. The songs he wrote and the number and quality of his songs during his prime he can go toe to toe with anyone else in their primes. So he really could write, sing and play.
WickerBill
05-05-16, 03:27 PM
Your required Prince listen for today is a funk special... "My Name Is Prince" (with the mandatory for the time, but unfortunate, 1992 rap interlude). This song is all about narcissism, which he certainly had by the truckload.
"And on the seventh day, He made me"
The awkward thing about this song is that immediately after this album was released, he changed his name and refused to perform "My Name Is Prince" until after he changed it back.
Napoleon
05-05-16, 05:26 PM
Opioid addiction is an epidemic in this country and if anything good comes of this maybe it will be greater attention to that problem.
And the LA Times drops a massive story on the problems with OxyContin.
http://static.latimes.com/oxycontin-part1/#nt=oft12aH-1la1
I was surprised to learn that many of his albums were just him, doing everything. I definitely sold him short on his talent. For me a lot of it had to be you look at him and think he is just a flamboyant show man, so he has to be a bit of a light weight, right? And for me I admit taking a disliking to him early (in a personal sense) when I read a Rolling Stone cover story on him that made me think he was a semi-delusional narcissist, plus you have to admit, he was a little weird.
Anyways, listening to his stuff the last couple of weeks, he has a hell of a music catalog. The songs he wrote and the number and quality of his songs during his prime he can go toe to toe with anyone else in their primes. So he really could write, sing and play.
He was 'out there' during my high school and college days (probably attracted me just because), but dude could PLAY. Period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A84zXyL7DI
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Living in Minnesota, he really was "one of us." Everybody has a Prince story. (I saw the debut of 3rd Eye Girl at The Dakota. A tiny jazz club that he frequented, and decided last minute to play some shows. For a couple of hundred people.)
Beyond the music, so much is coming out about his philanthropy. A friend of mine hosted a show he attended (his bodyguards' daughter was in it, so he came to watch), and afterwards did some sleuthing to see if he would be willing to support a literacy non profit she was working with. His charity person said that his current focus was focusing on providing healthcare and shelter to aging musicians. Then, two weeks later the literacy organization got a check for $5,000 with the caveat nobody could know the money came from Prince.
That's how he rolled.
Van Jones talks about more:
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Tifosi24
05-07-16, 02:14 PM
Living in Minnesota, he really was "one of us."
As a non-native, I chuckle at this sentence, a great inside joke folks from other places won't understand. Anyhow, I don't have a Prince story, but it is true that if you walk down the street you will probably find someone with a Prince story in less than a block. His life, to me, was really this strange juxtaposition, he was exceedly private yet lived his life much like regular folks. For example, there is a local bike chain in town and it is well known that he came in, himself, to buy bikes. Or the fact that Paisley Park is a non-descript warehouse in the suburbs. In retrospect, he was a quintessential Minnesotan (or Upper Midwesterner).
I did some business with a company in Nazareth, Pennsylvania; everyone there had a Mario Andretti story. My sister lives on the north shore of Long Island; she has a Victoria Gotti story. I once saw John & Yoko walking down Central Park West a block north of the Dakota; I guess that’s my John & Yoko story.
As a non-native, I chuckle at this sentence, a great inside joke folks from other places won't understand.
The way you can tell that I'm also non-native was the quotes. Glad you got it.
On one hand, I'm amazed at the number of people just realizing his greatness. On the other, reading about him reveals stuff that makes me think, "how did I not know this?" Like the fact that he had written Manic Monday under a pseudonym and gave the song to The Bangles after hearing their first album - to try to get Susanna Hoffs to sleep with him.
Napoleon
05-09-16, 01:33 PM
Beyond the music, so much is coming out about his philanthropy.
A good number of people who knew him have brought up stories about that since he passed. To me that makes it all the more surprising he does not have a will.
- to try to get Susanna Hoffs to sleep with him.
OK, that I can understand. He definitely had a certain type of woman he was attracted to.
I was listening to Terry Gross' (NPR's Fresh Air) interview of Questlove in the last week or two and he had some funny stories about Prince (in general, he is was just a great interview).
Napoleon
05-09-16, 01:37 PM
His life, to me, was really this strange juxtaposition, he was exceedly private yet lived his life much like regular folks.
My favorite along those lines is that after he became a Jehovah Witness, he, just like every one else is suppose to, did the door to door thing.
WickerBill
05-09-16, 02:22 PM
My favorite along those lines is that after he became a Jehovah Witness, he, just like every one else is suppose to, did the door to door thing.
Can you IMAGINE opening your door and it's Prince and some other random (they're always in pairs).
P: "Can I interest you in this copy of The Watchtower?"
Me: "Which song is better, Darling Nikki or Erotic City??? YOU GO FIRST"
Napoleon
05-09-16, 02:57 PM
^^
That would be something.
I have read two separate stories people told of him coming to their door. In one of them he was with the guy who converted him, the bassist from Sly and the Family Stone, and apparently the people answering knew who both of them were, so they let them in since they were so amazed that both of them were at the door.
The second story had the person telling Prince something like "you know you look like Prince", "Oh really?", "what's your name?", "eh, Rogers Nelson".
It would sorely test my usual strategy of pretending I am not home when they come a knocking if I could see as they came down the street one of them was Prince.
Here's a good read on Prince and his door knocking: http://www.startribune.com/prince-s-death-puts-spotlight-on-jehovah-s-witnesses/377972981/
And a Jimmy Fallon/Questlove/Prince story:
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Napoleon
05-11-16, 10:12 AM
^^
JoeBob, I don't have audio at work, but I so hope this is the ping pong story I heard Questlove tell on Fresh Air. Hilarious.
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JoeBob, I don't have audio at work, but I so hope this is the ping pong story I heard Questlove tell on Fresh Air. Hilarious.
It is indeed the ping pong story, with each of them telling their part. Totally hilarious.
Ask your boy.
TravelGal
05-11-16, 06:56 PM
It is indeed the ping pong story, with each of them telling their part. Totally hilarious.
Ask your boy.
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It is indeed the ping pong story, with each of them telling their part. Totally hilarious.
Ask your boy.
Grey Poupon moment. :)
chop456
05-12-16, 01:43 AM
In one of them he was with the guy who converted him, the bassist from Sly and the Family Stone
I remember him. He added some bottom so that the dancers wouldn't hide.
I remember him. He added some bottom so that the dancers wouldn't hide.
:D
Napoleon
05-12-16, 07:11 AM
JoeBob,
That was funny. Questlove actually did a better job of the story on his own. He is a pretty good story teller (on the Fallon clip he is letting Jimmy take the lead and not showing his boss up.
Ask your boy :rofl:
Awesome guitar riff....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXwKz1FLYo0
cameraman
05-13-16, 01:58 PM
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Mini concert at the Arsenio Hall show in 1991.
Heavy version of Let's Go Crazy with a dash of Edger Winter..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnqJgLYrnPA
Sigh.
Reminds me of Jimi. :cry:
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the notes on this explain the show better than I can.
https://youtu.be/35QXGPQHuIg
?uestLove, Spike Lee, etc. on Prince.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6dIxuQHb-g
Napoleon
06-02-16, 12:18 PM
This is no surprise, but AP reports tests confirm it was an opioid overdose.
https://twitter.com/AP/status/738399647924916224
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