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dando
05-07-13, 09:19 AM
So I woke up this AM @ 5:30 to this. Insane. Just insane. :saywhat: :irked:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/07/Amanda-Berry-Rescuer-White-Girl-Black-Man


"You got some big testicles to pull this off bro. Cuz, we seen this dude everyday!"

Might I suggest Castro lacked testicles...

-Kevin

Ankf00
05-07-13, 10:36 AM
kBJowiFQj_c#!

I'm just eating my McDonalds...

KLang
05-07-13, 10:45 AM
I hope the three brothers never see the outside of a prison again. Unbelievable. :saywhat:

dando
05-07-13, 12:39 PM
And a 6 yo boy that was born during their captivity. Just flipping nuts. :saywhat:

-Kevin

Napoleon
05-07-13, 01:03 PM
I managed to turn on that interview of that guy on live TV here in Cleveland when I got home from work without any idea of what was going on or why they were interviewing him, although part of the way in it hit me "they must have found Berry or DeJesus!!!!"

Got to give it to the parents of both of them, they never gave up trying to keep the story in the news. I couldn't help but think everytime I saw them that they were just denying reality, and I couldn't be happier being wrong about something.

More on the guy in the clip.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2013/05/dishwasher_who_helped_save_ama_1.html#incart_maj-story-1

Napoleon
05-07-13, 01:08 PM
Oh, and listen to her 911 call and the operator on it (link below).

This exchange happens after Amanda Berry identifies who she is and that she was kidnapped for 10 years and had just freed herself:

Dispatcher: Yeah. Talk to the police when they get there.
Berry: OK. Are they on their way right now? I need them now.
Dispatcher: We're going to send them as soon as we get a car open.
Berry: No. I need them now, before he gets back.
Dispatcher: All right. We're sending them, OK?

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/listen_to_amanda_berrys_franti.html#incart_maj-story-1#incart_maj-story-1

dando
05-07-13, 01:23 PM
My skin crawls thinking about my girls. And now the local cops just now posted a notice that two girls from our local HS are missing.


Dublin Ohio ‏@DublinOhio 3h
Dublin Police are searching for missing juveniles Kaitlyn Curry & Haley Mohr. Call 614.889.1112 with information: http://ow.ly/kMMFt
Retweeted by Jeff Griffith

They've been missing since Friday. I follow the local news closely daily, and I never heard about the MIA teens until today. :shakehead Hug your kids a little bit closer today and beyond.

-Kevin

Napoleon
05-07-13, 01:32 PM
That guys 911 call is pretty entertaining as well (NSFW). Amazingly they do not bleep out his cell phone number on it. I wonder how many calls he is going to get because of it.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/amanda_berry_gina_dejesus_mich.html#incart_maj-story-1

RaceGrrl
05-07-13, 01:53 PM
He needs to hook up with the Obama-phone lady. :gomer:

dando
05-07-13, 01:53 PM
Nappy, what's that area in Cleveland like? It's south of the downtown area...is it like the area east of downtown along Euclid Avenue (not a pretty sight)?

-Kevin

dando
05-07-13, 02:57 PM
Reports out of Cleveland that as many as five pregnancies occurred. Disturbed earth in the backyard. Jeebus. :mad: :shakehead

-Kevin

Napoleon
05-07-13, 03:33 PM
Nappy, what's that area in Cleveland like? It's south of the downtown area...is it like the area east of downtown along Euclid Avenue (not a pretty sight)?

My initial reaction is “south of downtown, its west of downtown” but in looking at the map I guess technically it is although it is on the West Side and more or less all of downtown is technically on the East Side.

As an initial disclaimer, for someone who grew up in a lily white high income suburb (and continue to live in one, though much more mixed ethnicities then of my youth) I am not anywhere like the typical person of my age and background who seems to have an aversion to anything central city and seem to be stuck thinking its 1993 and there are gun battles on every street corner 24/7 (crime rates have dramatically dropped in the last 20 years).

That area they are talking about is squarely in an older part of town that is very working class and almost certainly ends up near the bottom of reported income per capita in the county, but for the most part not badly kept, all things considered, close to the newest major shopping center in the city (less than 10 YO) and two neighborhoods that have been trendy places to move back to, Tremont and Ohio City. The Euclid corridor has more vacant lots and perhaps some of the housing stock is more run down then this area. It's a typical bustling older neighborhood.

By the way, since I first came to town in 83 the Euclid corridor has really improved with new housing and buildings going in, including the ever expanding Clinic. If you take a long view its an area that turned a corner some years ago.

Gnam
05-07-13, 03:42 PM
Can't imagine the joy of the reunited families. The pure evil that preceeded it makes me sick.

The brothers are innocent until proven guilty. They deserve a fair trial followed by a public execution.

NismoZ
05-07-13, 06:04 PM
Great interview, Charles Ramsey!

Napoleon
05-08-13, 01:55 PM
So how does the woman who has a now 6 year old daughter get a birth certificate for her?

cameraman
05-08-13, 02:13 PM
Most states have a mechanism for people who didn't get a birth certificate for whatever reason. In this case the required legal background checks will be done by the DA's office for free as part of their prosecution. It will be the easiest thing of the entire mess to fix.

Andrew Longman
05-08-13, 05:41 PM
Most states have a mechanism for people who didn't get a birth certificate for whatever reason. In this case the required legal background checks will be done by the DA's office for free as part of their prosecution. It will be the easiest thing of the entire mess to fix.Sure, but can the kid become president? (Runs)

Sadly I am pretty sure there are more that a few girls/women in a similar situation right now. And it is a new thing. Women have been kept as slaves for centuries but since slavery was abolished on the planet this shat has mostly but apparently not completely stopped. I just doubt you could have pulled this crap off 40+ years ago before people retreated to their homes and the anonymity of their multimedia entertainment.

dando
05-09-13, 12:57 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/09/us/ohio-missing-women-found/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

More 411 comes out. This is only going to get worse. :irked:

-Kevin

Napoleon
05-09-13, 04:47 PM
My favorite factoid is that when the police got the girls they got a description, name, description of his car and in pretty short order he drives by some squad car with his one brother riding along and pulls into a McDonalds. Cop goes up to him and one of the brothers says “you sure you are not looking for our other brother” Cop: “where is he” Castro brother: “Mom’s – over on such and such avenue”. (By the way, my impression is that when this happened they had no idea why the cops were looking for one of them).

So they arrest the two brothers and then the third one they ratted out at mom’s for good measure. The two brothers not charged today looked pissed at the arraignment and did not say one word to the one who was charged (they were there on 2 totally unrelated charges from the past).

One thing is this guy’s family have been tripping over each other to get in front of microphones to apologize to the victims and their families. The guy’s mom (in Spanish, so a Telemundo reporter ended up being her translator for the rest of the press), son and daughter (on Good Morn. Am. today) and a bunch of brothers, sisters, cousins and the like. So far he has got zero presumption of innocence from his family.

dando
05-09-13, 05:09 PM
Somehow I knew this was next...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey-8702415?fb_action_ids=4933844385448&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_ref=tsg&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%224933844385448%22%3A6195574 08073775%7D&action_type_map=%7B%224933844385448%22%3A%22og.lik es%22%7D&action_ref_map=%7B%224933844385448%22%3A%22tsg%22% 7D


MAY 8--The Cleveland man credited with helping free female captives from a house of horrors is a convicted felon whose rap sheet includes three separate domestic violence convictions that resulted in prison terms, court records show.

Charles Ramsey, whose 911 call and subsequent TV interviews have made him a microcelebrity, was once a repeat spousal abuser whose marriage ended in divorce following a 2003 felony conviction for battering his wife.

-Kevin

Napoleon
05-09-13, 05:17 PM
. . . and the prosecutor is going to seek aggravated murder charges, a capital offense, for the unborn children that died.

Napoleon
05-10-13, 07:30 AM
Sure, but can the kid become president? (Runs)

One local TV station already had to apologize for reporting that the accused, who is Puerto Rican, may not have gotten US citizenship. :rolleyes:

Napoleon
05-17-13, 01:27 PM
kBJowiFQj_c#!

I'm just eating my McDonalds...



Dude's got an action figure now:

http://www.herobuilders.com/real-hero-action-figures/real-hero-action-figures.htm

dando
06-07-13, 10:11 PM
Indicted on 329 counts. I hope he gets raped and sodomized in the clink. :flame:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/07/justice/ohio-castro-case/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

-Kevin

Dvdb
06-10-13, 12:00 AM
A bit strong Kevin......sodomized, killed with a pillow case full of bar soap, then an acid bath......we do live in a civilized nation.

Napoleon
07-26-13, 11:28 AM
Castro pleads guilty, gets life w/o possibility of parole + 1000 years.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/07/ariel_castro_agrees_to_plea_de.html#incart_maj-story-1

Gnam
07-26-13, 12:34 PM
He got off light.

dando
07-26-13, 01:35 PM
He got off light.

I'm betting another form of justice will be applied to him.

-Kevin

Insomniac
07-26-13, 07:00 PM
What is the point of such a sentence?

gjc2
07-27-13, 07:16 AM
I have a feeling the comments Castro made about his mental state and his addiction to pornography were the ground work for an appeal.

I’m not so sure we’ve heard the last from him.

dando
07-27-13, 10:07 AM
I have a feeling the comments Castro made about his mental state and his addiction to pornography were the ground work for an appeal.

I’m not so sure we’ve heard the last from him.

Since he took a plea deal, I don't think he has an option to appeal.

-Kevin

gjc2
07-27-13, 10:51 AM
Since he took a plea deal, I don't think he has an option to appeal.

-Kevin

The defendant’s statement at sentencing is an opportunity to get things into the court record that wouldn’t have otherwise been included.

I don’t think an appeal will be made soon, and I don’t think it will be successful, but I think Castro’s lawyers told him to make the statements about his mental condition and problem with pornography.

G.
07-28-13, 12:16 AM
I'm betting another form of justice will be applied to him.

-Kevin
That doesn't happen that much anymore. Dahmer got a form of prison justice, but this is rare these days.


What is the point of such a sentence?


I have a feeling the comments Castro made about his mental state and his addiction to pornography were the ground work for an appeal.

I’m not so sure we’ve heard the last from him.


Castro, who was scheduled to go on trial Aug. 5, agreed to a plea deal that will put him in prison for life without parole, plus a minimum of 1,000 years, and take away any rights to appeal his conviction or sentence.

"He's never coming out [of prison] except nailed in a box or in an ash can," Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Timothy J. McGinty said after the hearing.

The extra time on top of the life sentence "is largely symbolic" and "an expression of the communty's outrage, said Joe Frolik, spokesman for McGinty.

NismoZ
08-01-13, 05:43 PM
His piling up of serious crimes against those 3 women over a period of 10+ years added up to 1000 years of punishment. They just rounded the number to something astonishing so the public would better understand the magnitude of his crimes. My guess is he will likely be kept in solitary to prevent what many of us are hoping for but in the meantime we pay for the food, health care, HD TV, clothing, laundering, bedding, reading material...He has his life but I hope he NEVER experiences liberty or happiness again.

Gnam
09-04-13, 01:21 AM
The coward was found dead in his cell tonight. They say he hung himself.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Ohio-man-who-held-3-women-captive-commits-suicide-4784911.php

He should not have been allowed to escape his sentence. :thumbdown:

Napoleon
09-04-13, 07:56 AM
I just love how the local news raced people in the dark down to Columbus to stand outside the prision that guy died in, in the dark, to tell us what happened. God I hate the local news. They could have saved gas just by doing their live shots outside a Taco Bell in Parma instead.

Oh, and if I had to live in Columbus I would hang myself as well. ;)

nrc
09-04-13, 09:28 AM
I just love how the local news raced people in the dark down to Columbus to stand outside the prision that guy died in, in the dark, to tell us what happened. God I hate the local news. They could have saved gas just by doing their live shots outside a Taco Bell in Parma instead.

Oh, and if I had to live in Columbus I would hang myself as well. ;)

I know what you mean. With property values coming back in Columbus it's tough to find a reasonably priced place with enough space for your captives AND some place to bury the bodies. Still, we aspire to our own "bat *** crazy" thread. :)

Buckeye season kicked off on Saturday. The guy probably heard O-H! one too many times.

Don Quixote
09-04-13, 10:07 AM
Sorry Nappy. That point goes to boss. :D

Napoleon
09-04-13, 12:37 PM
Buckeye season kicked off on Saturday. The guy probably heard O-H! one too many times.

Good point, that must have finally completely sent him over the edge.