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Hard Driver
03-25-13, 12:04 AM
Fairly interesting race.
Nice to see KV racing doing well and de Silvestro run so well all race.
WTF Hildebrande was thinking. First he passes under a full course yellow and then he crashes. That wasn't just a brain fart, it was a brain explosive diarrhea.
Congrats to Hinchcliffe for his first win!
Wheel-Nut
03-25-13, 11:17 AM
Was this on TV? I never found it.
TKGAngel
03-25-13, 12:09 PM
WTF Hildebrande was thinking. First he passes under a full course yellow and then he crashes. That wasn't just a brain fart, it was a brain explosive diarrhea.
Hildebrand was arguing that race control told him to pass under yellow. He has no defense for driving on top of Power.
Speaking of explosive brain diarrhea, TG was re-elected to the board-of-directors at Hulman-George this weekend.
stroker
03-25-13, 12:53 PM
As they say, you can't fix stupid.
Hildebrand was arguing that race control told him to pass under yellow. He has no defense for driving on top of Power.
Speaking of explosive brain diarrhea, TG was re-elected to the board-of-directors at Hulman-George this weekend.
See the Friday March 22 entry here (http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2013/03/ims-brings-back-george-to-defuse-rumors.html) for more an that subject. :tony:
Racing Truth
03-25-13, 02:45 PM
See the Friday March 22 entry here (http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2013/03/ims-brings-back-george-to-defuse-rumors.html) for more an that subject. :tony:
A political blogger is an authoritative source, now?:gomer:
That said, if bringing TG onto the BOD is the price to pay for getting Zak Brown as CEO (as the rumors are circulating), yeah, I'm fine w/ that. Sorry.
Hildebrand=wanker.
Love Hinch winning. And Simona running up front.:thumbup:
Racing Truth
03-25-13, 02:55 PM
BTW: Not a fan of PTP, but if it must be there, having a limited # of them per race is the least bad option. Not doing it by total time helped.
datachicane
03-25-13, 03:29 PM
It ran quite a bit over the start of the 12PM rebroadcast of Malaysia here. Nice to see a bunch of familiar names and liveries, but my god, those cars. :yuck: Couldn't bring myself to watch a complete lap.
I'm glad those guys have jobs, and rather than just ignoring the whole thing I actually feel a bit of a pang of regret that the current incarnation is unlikely to get any better. That's a first for me.
DVR'd and watched at the x8 speed for much of the broadcast.
Cars still hurt my eyes.
Leigh Diffey hurts my ears.
All the polish and showmanship (fireworks at start, confetti blowers, etc) won't bring ratings. There used to be a time when the stories wrote themselves. Nowadays, the forced feel good stories and drama are :yuck:.
It used to bother me that I didn't care. I've gotten over it.
TravelGal
03-25-13, 06:09 PM
Nice to see a bunch of familiar names and liveries, but my god, those cars. :yuck: Couldn't bring myself to watch a complete lap.
I'm glad those guys have jobs, and rather than just ignoring the whole thing I actually feel a bit of a pang of regret that the current incarnation is unlikely to get any better. That's a first for me.
Cars still hurt my eyes. Leigh Diffey hurts my ears.
There used to be a time when the stories wrote themselves. Nowadays, the forced feel good stories and drama are :yuck:.
It used to bother me that I didn't care. I've gotten over it.
:) Elmo. The grief process is a long one with me. I watch, mostly fast forward, but I wouldn't watch at all if TravelGuy didn't want to. I used to hate it but I guess I'm mellowing. I, too, am feeling that it's sad that this is what we've got. Nothing more. I am not yet up to complete indifference because I have so many friends that are still involved. If Zanardi shows up in any way on the track, I'd probably make an effort to go.
This year the cars struck me as fantasy cars. Like dollhouse cars. All curvy edges, colorful, and pretty that way. I can see little girls playing with them in miniature. Not how you'd want a race car to be described. Sigh.
Wheel-Nut
03-25-13, 06:36 PM
Where is Rubens Barrichello? Is he one and done?
nissan gtp
03-25-13, 07:31 PM
As they say, you can't fix stupid.
but you can re-hire it :tony:
gerhard911
03-25-13, 07:53 PM
:laugh:
Funniest post here in quite a while.
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Trevor Longman
03-25-13, 09:36 PM
I enjoyed it from start to finish. Really happy for Hinch to get that win. I've been a fan of his since back when he was in Atlantics. Simona too, I saw her in Atlantics at Lime Rock 2009 and could see she was something special, now shes finally got the equipment to match.
I'll watch more this year despite the fugly cars because I've been able to put it out of my head that this is what Champ Car has turned into. Its just solid racing with a lot of talented drivers and good TV coverage to me now.
Then again, maybe I just have lower standards. :laugh:
cameraman
03-25-13, 11:50 PM
Was this on TV? I never found it.
Sure, same channel as F1. It was on at noon eastern, 10AM mountain and I was still asleep from having watched the Malaysian race live, oh well...
cameraman
03-25-13, 11:54 PM
I enjoyed it from start to finish. Really happy for Hinch to get that win. I've been a fan of his since back when he was in Atlantics. Simona too, I saw her in Atlantics at Lime Rock 2009 and could see she was something special, now shes finally got the equipment to match.
I'll watch more this year despite the fugly cars because I've been able to put it out of my head that this is what Champ Car has turned into. Its just solid racing with a lot of talented drivers and good TV coverage to me now.
Then again, maybe I just have lower standards. :laugh:
It was those Grand Am races you went to. The prototurtles damaged you.
Rogue Leader
03-25-13, 11:56 PM
Where is Rubens Barrichello? Is he one and done?
Yeah hes out. He wanted a more competitive ride and nobody would give it to him so he took off.
Trevor Longman
03-26-13, 07:38 AM
It was those Grand Am races you went to. The prototurtles damaged you.
You might be on to something there! Too long since I smelled any methanol :laugh:
Trevor, if I were you I would blame my father. That's what Tony George did, and look where it got him. Or was it the guy who was banging his mother that shot his father that he blamed? Or his real father, A.J.? I don't know, this gets so confusing...
All I know is I was very pleased with Simona's performance and I was really bothered that she ran out of P2P and lost those 2 spots on the final lap. REALLY wanted that podium for her but the season is young! Remember when we made fun of Will Power? He may be the best of ALL of 'em! Gee, Ganassi nor Penske won? Andretti. Hmmm...I won't wish anything bad on RHR, though a "non big-3" win would be nice! I may not (be able to) watch but I'll follow results. PS...will Rubens go Bazillion stock car racing now or run those big rigs?:)
To say those cars are ugly is an insult to ugly people everywhere. After trying to watch a few laps I decided to watch Pawn Stars instead.
cameraman
03-27-13, 12:06 AM
HURRY YOU'RE MISSING IT!!!! They are repeating the St Petersberg GP right now!!!!!
The whole ride-along thingie is on at the moment :shakehead
On Sunday, Hinchcliffe’s efforts at St. Petersburg earned him $35,000 (U.S.) while Kyle Busch collected $334,233 for his win at Fontana. Even last-place finisher Mike Bliss got a cheque for $59,810.
Heck, the same Busch earned $74,525 one day earlier, winning in NASCAR’s second division.
Source (http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/26/indycar-needs-to-pay-up-if-it-wants-to-be-in-big-leagues)
IndyCar need to do something about this.
Ted
IndyCar need to do something about this.
Ted
IndyCar is going to have to open up the vault and start acting like a big league.
To find what in their vault? Maybe they can pay in Monopoly money.
Tifosi24
03-27-13, 10:20 PM
Source (http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/26/indycar-needs-to-pay-up-if-it-wants-to-be-in-big-leagues)
IndyCar need to do something about this.
Ted
Dear God that is terrible. I did some NASCAR related research in grad school and, without looking at the data, I am pretty sure that first place paid more than that in Winston Cup in the early 1990s.
Andrew Longman
03-28-13, 07:56 AM
Source (http://www.torontosun.com/2013/03/26/indycar-needs-to-pay-up-if-it-wants-to-be-in-big-leagues)
IndyCar need to do something about this.
TedWith that kind of prize money, down the grid most teams aren't earning enough money to even pay for tires. :rolleyes:
stroker
03-28-13, 08:05 AM
He's driving a Crapwagon. What does he expect?
Prize money? I thought the bulk of a driver's "pay" came from whatever a sponsor would pony up, be it Dad or a giant oil company...through a team owner? MANY years ago Mario was pulling down over 3 mil which was competitive with F-1 at the time, or so I read. Haas sure as heck wouldn't pay even Mario out of his own pocket...would he? Those numbers mentioned above ARE pathetic, however.:shakehead
A couple of years ago the IRL started giving a few million dollars to every team that runs a full season effort instead of having a purse at each race.
Because without Tony, there's a limited number of TonyBucks to hand out.
What are they (IndyCar) supposed to pay up with? If money is growing on trees these days, I wish somebody would tell me.
Mary
TKGAngel
03-28-13, 07:44 PM
Woodward and Bernstein had it right; follow the money (http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-series-reveals-22-leader-circle-contracts/).
Woodward and Bernstein had it right; follow the money (http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-series-reveals-22-leader-circle-contracts/).
$62,500 per car, per race weekend.
Chump change.
Yeah, Hinch got a check for 35K from IndyCar. You should now probably suggest the Canadian tabloid writer get a tally of the total prize money paid to Hinch, which originates from a variety of sources (sponsorship, TV, promoting entities, etc. The 35K was one percentage of the total winner purse. Research. It works wonders. I understand ignoring it bolsters your straw men, but tell the truth.
:rofl: Geez, I forgot, everything is equal in the socialistic leegue. 1st place $35K, 2nd place $35K, 20th place $35K, 33rd place $35K.
The US Grand Prix in 1973 had a winners share of $50K. In context, in 2013 the Indycars are paying $35K to win....ahh yes comrades, progress!:laugh:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Wg_ticket_1973.jpg
Ed_Severson
03-30-13, 09:27 AM
:rofl: Geez, I forgot, everything is equal in the socialistic leegue. 1st place $35K, 2nd place $35K, 20th place $35K, 33rd place $35K.
The US Grand Prix in 1973 had a winners share of $50K. In context, in 2013 the Indycars are paying $35K to win....ahh yes comrades, progress!:laugh:
This is nothing we don't already know about Duhfender, but the prize money in IndyCar is beyond pathetic right now and it takes a real derptastic ******* to try to convince anyone otherwise.
In other news, that race kinda sucked for me, but I'm told I was on national TV for about 10 seconds and was seen by hundreds of people, so we'll call it a push.
TravelGal
03-30-13, 12:04 PM
In other news, that race kinda sucked for me, but I'm told I was on national TV for about 10 seconds and was seen by hundreds of people, so we'll call it a push.
:D Good to see you back here though. Sorry I'll miss you in Long Beach when, of course, I'll be over where you just were in FL.
Not to defend any of this drek, but CART purses where never all that great either. Something about professional racing teams don't run for purse money. Not sure what these yoyos excuse is.
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Racing Truth
03-30-13, 02:52 PM
A couple of years ago the IRL started giving a few million dollars to every team that runs a full season effort instead of having a purse at each race.
Because without Tony, there's a limited number of TonyBucks to hand out.
Essentially, yes. Purses were never very good, other than the 500, but ICS (really, the H-G Sisters) came up w/ the Leader's Circle, which in essence replaced purses.
The BCG Consulting group's leaked plans were mostly atrocities (Playoff? IMS road course?:yuck:), but they did have enough sense to recommend the return of real purses and scrapping LC altogether.
Racing Truth
03-30-13, 02:56 PM
Hey Ed_S, any impressions from the paddock on Mark Miles yet?
Ed_Severson
03-31-13, 04:08 PM
Hey Ed_S, any impressions from the paddock on Mark Miles yet?
Nope.
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