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All kinds of awesome.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2013/03/amazon-ceo-recovers-nasas-apollo-engines-from-ocean-deep/
-Kevin
Andrew Longman
03-21-13, 09:55 AM
Cool. I watched the documentary For All Mankind last night.
It is an awesome film and I was reminded again of the violent power of the Saturn V.
And glad that someone still cares
Cool. I watched the documentary For All Mankind last night.
It is an awesome film and I was reminded again of the violent power of the Saturn V.
And glad that someone still cares
Not sure if you're on Netflix, but this is a good watch:
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/When_We_Left_Earth_The_NASA_Missions/70218722?trkid=496624
I've watched it a couple of times over the past month. :thumbup: :thumbup:
My last trip to KSC was back in '88. Seeing the Sat V was just awesome, as was seeing Discovery on the pad waiting for launch. I still kick my ass for not knowing about Discovery being launched on 23-Oct when we took the girls dow to WDW. Seeing that from Fantasyland was flipping awesome x11. I was obviously focused on other things (Tink is hot). :)
-Kevin
Andrew Longman
03-21-13, 01:06 PM
Yes, excellent. I caught it when it was on cable.
I took the boys to KSC when we went to Sebring last year.
I am so glad the put the Saturn V inside that great building. Years back when I was helping Rockwell do a better job turning shuttles around they had the Saturn V laying out on the ground in the elements. It was so sad.
Wheel-Nut
03-21-13, 01:49 PM
Cool. I watched the documentary For All Mankind last night.
It is an awesome film and I was reminded again of the violent power of the Saturn V.
And glad that someone still cares
Someone with a lot of money!
Yes, excellent. I caught it when it was on cable.
I took the boys to KSC when we went to Sebring last year.
I am so glad the put the Saturn V inside that great building. Years back when I was helping Rockwell do a better job turning shuttles around they had the Saturn V laying out on the ground in the elements. It was so sad.
Yes, that's how it was during my last KSC visit. :( I saw a piece on the Today Show this AM and saw it was moved inside. :thumbup: Can't wait to see Atlantis on my next trip to WDW.
-Kevin
Someone with a lot of money!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-recovers-apollo-engines-from-beneath-the-atlantic-8543794.html
Previously Mr Bezos wrote he was inspired by Nasa as a child, and by recovering the engines "maybe we can inspire a few more youth to invent and explore."
:thumbup: :thumbup:
Still not clear whether these are from 11 or not, though.
-Kevin
Andrew Longman
03-21-13, 03:39 PM
Someone with a lot of money!And willing to spend it on history for future generations and not tacky property, drugs or assorted wives.
Better to leave it on the ocean floor for someone to dig up in 100 million years. Dinosaurs on the Moon!
Andrew Longman
03-21-13, 03:43 PM
Yes, that's how it was during my last KSC visit. :( I saw a piece on the Today Show this AM and saw it was moved inside. :thumbup: Can't wait to see Atlantis on my next trip to WDW.
-KevinThe display is very impressive because you can stand underneath. It is just hard to get your head wrapped around that thing can actually fly... And at something like 35,000 mph (I forget just how fast but it is a whole lot.)
Wheel-Nut
03-21-13, 04:28 PM
There is one on display at NASA is Clear Lake. It used to be exposed to the weather but they built a building around it.
http://binged.it/15wU55t
The display is very impressive because you can stand underneath. It is just hard to get your head wrapped around that thing can actually fly... And at something like 35,000 mph (I forget just how fast but it is a whole lot.)
For those of us with Google brains... ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V
-Kevin
nissan gtp
03-21-13, 06:07 PM
awesome
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Saturn_V_launches.jpg
stroker
03-21-13, 06:11 PM
Designed with slide rules.
German slide rules.;)
Perhaps, but simply an amazing vehicle. :thumbup:
-Kevin
Andrew Longman
03-21-13, 08:22 PM
German slide rules.;)Or Germans with slide rules :D
In all seriousness what was amaziing is how YOUNG they were. Makes sense because the technology was so new the old fart engineer hadn't learned it in school.
I remember being shocked that the computer scientist who on the spot told Armstrong to ignore a persistent alarm in the LEM and go ahead and land was only IIRC 26.
Gee the whole planet is olny watching to see if you spike the LEM into the moon and Kranz told him to make the call because he know more about all that code than anyone.
Or Germans with slide rules :D
In all seriousness what was amaziing is how YOUNG they were. Makes sense because the technology was so new the old fart engineer hadn't learned it in school.
I remember being shocked that the computer scientist who on the spot told Armstrong to ignore a persistent alarm in the LEM and go ahead and land was only IIRC 26.
Gee the whole planet is olny watching to see if you spike the LEM into the moon and Kranz told him to make the call because he know more about all that code than anyone.
More amazing was the number of lines of code that were required. :thumbup:
-Kevin
I've seen the one at KSC outside and inside, and for some reason it was more impressive to me outside.
Awesome stuff.
This has been bothering me for years; please excuse my child-like wonderment.
When the rocket is on the launchpad, what is holding it up? Does the rocket have a "spine" that bears all of the weight? What is it resting on? Why doesn't it collapse under its own weight? (the obvious answer is that it was designed to avoid that, but what is the solution to making something lightweight, yet able to hold a gazillion gallons of fuel?)
Hold down arms at the base of the rocket:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-4204/ch13-4.html
*edit: moar
In the first color photo, you see those orange looking pads on the bottom? Those pads in a ring sit on the hold down clamp base. They are at every hold down clamp location. This is where the weight of the rocket bears.
The second picture shows the hold down clamp flange that the hold down clamp puts its pressure on to keep the rocket in place until launch.
http://www.collectspace.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000281.html
http://s1.postimg.org/b4kqm99x9/ussrc_satv_sic_hold_down_post_wide.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/88rppifgl/ussrc_satv_sic_hold_down_post_tight.jpg
Had the good fortune to get down to Pearl Harbor when Conrad, Gordon and Bean were brought in on the Hornet after their "Precision Landing" moon flight in the fall of '69. Apollo 12. BIG banner hanging from the island, "Three More, Like Before!" The capsule was lowered to the dock, all wrapped in bright blue plastic, followed by the guys...waving to the crowd through the big picture window at the end of their shiny silver Airstream "quarantine" trailer! (didn't want to risk infecting the earth people with moon bugs, ya know!)
Fast forward 40 years: I'm with my brother and cousin on our way to the Porsche School at Barber and we stop at the Huntsville Space And Rocket Center. (GO if you ever get the chance!) There was a Saturn V upright outside, and a reclining one inside, separated into each of it's stages. Incredible sight! Nearby there is a display of an Airstream quarantine trailer...FROM APOLLO 12! It was found rusting away in a desert somewhere, completely restored and looking just as I saw it in 1969. A sweet reunion...and I have photos of both! (I never go far without a camera.:))
Andrew Longman
03-22-13, 06:00 PM
Nismo, one of those Airstreams (maybe the same one) is out at the Smithsonian at Dulles airport. I always thought it somehow ill matched to mix all this high tech stuff with a trailer my grandparents might tootle around the countryside in. :gomer:
There are 3 Saturn Vs. They were bought and paid for when Nixon cancelled the last 3 moon missions. So, rather than going to space, they went to museums. All 3 are indoors now. They're historic vehicles, why would you want to leave them exposed to the elements to be damaged. (And they were bing damaged.)
As noted in this thread, one is at KSC in Florida, one is at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, and one is in Houston.
The fact that Houston's Saturn V sits on trailers in a pole barn is likely a significant part of the reason that they didn't get a shuttle orbiter.
The Airstream that was used until the end of the shuttle program is currently sitting in the Vehicle Assembly Building. If you get to KSC these days, you can purchase a tour and go inside. HIGHLY RECCOMENDED! It's an amazing building.
I was lucky enough to watch Discovery's last launch with a bunch of friends from next to the countdown clock at the press site. I watched with my eyes, but held up a little video camera to capture the moment. Check it out. (I can only imagine what it was like to watch a Saturn V!)
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If you want to get an idea of what it FEELS like to be there, put on some headphones, and watch this, from a buddy of mine who was nearby and recorded it in stereo with some quality equipment. Some NASA folks told him it was the most accurate recording they'd heard:
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Wheel-Nut
03-25-13, 04:49 PM
As noted in this thread, one is at KSC in Florida, one is at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville, and one is in Houston.
The fact that Houston's Saturn V sits on trailers in a pole barn is likely a significant part of the reason that they didn't get a shuttle orbiter.
Pole barn!! It's hardly a pole barn!! ;)
http://www.panoramio.com/photo_explorer#view=photo&position=110&with_photo_id=76149845&order=date_desc&user=873256
Andrew Longman
03-25-13, 05:10 PM
http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/apollo-saturn-v-center-photo-gallery.aspx#/Photos/Images/c9d87b0d-141f-4374-b99f-6e2041c9bcc3.jpg
'Nuff said. :)
Wheel-Nut
03-25-13, 05:52 PM
http://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/apollo-saturn-v-center-photo-gallery.aspx#/Photos/Images/c9d87b0d-141f-4374-b99f-6e2041c9bcc3.jpg
'Nuff said. :)
First paragraph . . . . .
http://research.jsc.nasa.gov/BiennialResearchReport/PDF/EO-5.pdf
:)
I don't know why, but calling the rocket an 'artifact' makes me mad. :mad:
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