PDA

View Full Version : F1 & LMP1 convergence


cameraman
06-03-12, 12:32 PM
The idea is that starting in 2014 LMP1 engines and F1 engines will be the same. As in you could buy a Ferrari lump and drop it in your LMP1. Or if you are Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault etc you can put your F1 engines in LMP1 cars and test the hell out of them. The spec is changing too. 5 liter na engines with tightly limited fuel flow rates. The official announcement, or is it a pronouncement, will happen at the end of the week before the race.
Insomniac
06-03-12, 01:04 PM
Does this mean engine development will be back?

From a technical perspective, can anyone explain how a larger displacement but limiting fuel rates is better than a small displacement engine?
stroker
06-03-12, 03:42 PM
Does this mean engine development will be back?

From a technical perspective, can anyone explain how a larger displacement but limiting fuel rates is better than a small displacement engine?

Sounds like they're trying to incite the mfgs to squeeze more hp out of less fuel rather than more hp potentially overwhelming the capacity of the lower displacement. Less stress = more reliability = less cost, would be my guess.
Al Czervik
06-04-12, 11:59 AM
The idea is that starting in 2014 LMP1 engines and F1 engines will be the same. As in you could buy a Ferrari lump and drop it in your LMP1. Or if you are Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault etc you can put your F1 engines in LMP1 cars and test the hell out of them. The spec is changing too. 5 liter na engines with tightly limited fuel flow rates. The official announcement, or is it a pronouncement, will happen at the end of the week before the race.

Group C didn't work the first time (3.5 l) around. Why will it work this time?
cameraman
06-04-12, 01:11 PM
If the F1 engine builders can't test in F1 cars but can effectively test in WEC cars then the engine builders have a vested interest in getting their lumps into WEC cars. Those limitations did not exist before.
mapguy
06-04-12, 06:16 PM
Remember when the FIA dictated F1 motors to Group C back in 1991? Spanky and the midget thought that would get more factory involvement in F1. Instead it killed Group C.
cameraman
06-04-12, 09:48 PM
Was testing banned in F1 at the time?
mapguy
06-04-12, 11:40 PM
Was testing banned in F1 at the time?

Testing wasn't banned until the mid 2000's IIRC. Hakkinen was the full time test driver for McLaren during Andretti the lessor's successful 1993 season and Hill was the full time testor for Williams for a few years before getting promoted to a full time seat in 1993.