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Wheel-Nut
03-23-12, 03:10 PM
Oreo says the Houston GP returning in 2013.

Does this mean 1 less oval for 2013? :laugh:

opinionated ow
03-23-12, 06:02 PM
oh heck...Houston was one of the worst street races ever.

Wheel-Nut
03-23-12, 06:39 PM
oh heck...Houston was one of the worst street races ever.


Who cares about the racing, it's a party!!

Racing Truth
03-23-12, 07:14 PM
Oreo says the Houston GP returning in 2013.

Does this mean 1 less oval for 2013? :laugh:

Likely replacing TMS, which is fine by me. RMiller, FWIW, says Phoenix to open the 2013 season. Combined w/ rumors of MIS & RA returning, and, IMHO, you've got something.:thumbup: Yes, 15 wasted yrs. to get back to where we started, but so what?

Gnam
03-23-12, 07:27 PM
Phoenix to open the 2013 season.

been there. done that. got the t-shirt. [/champcar] :gomer:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7244/phoenix2007.png

Racing Truth
03-23-12, 07:29 PM
been there. done that. got the t-shirt. [/champcar] :gomer:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7244/phoenix2007.png

Heh, but no. I mean PIR.

EDIT: Based on RB this morning, I think PIR is coming back. Also said Wed. announcement for Houston "premature."

Racing Truth
03-24-12, 08:13 PM
Pocono, too? (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/indycar-may-add-houston-2013-183838032--spt.html)

2 yrs. ago, I'd have :laugh:at the idea. But the younger Mattiolis have repaved and made safety improvements. Why not?

Methanolandbrats
03-24-12, 09:05 PM
American Open Wheel will be nothing but watching ugly, slow lumps of **** make 90 degree turns. Can't beat that for eggcitement. :gomer:

Mary
03-25-12, 01:12 PM
Likely replacing TMS, which is fine by me. RMiller, FWIW, says Phoenix to open the 2013 season. Combined w/ rumors of MIS & RA returning, and, IMHO, you've got something.:thumbup: Yes, 15 wasted yrs. to get back to where we started, but so what?

So what? I'm curious enough to come here to read about it all, but not even remotely curious enough to skip the zillionth repeat of Mythubsters to watch it. That's "so what."


Mary

stroker
03-25-12, 01:59 PM
So what? I'm curious enough to come here to read about it all, but not even remotely curious enough to skip the zillionth repeat of Mythubsters to watch it. That's "so what."


Mary

I don't see how we're even in the same freaking GALAXY as "back to where we started", either.

Andrew Longman
03-25-12, 02:31 PM
Pocono, too? (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/indycar-may-add-houston-2013-183838032--spt.html)

2 yrs. ago, I'd have :laugh:at the idea. But the younger Mattiolis have repaved and made safety improvements. Why not?Yeah, why not. The place was built for open wheel Indy style racing. It really pushes the compromise with both drivers and machines of staightline speed and handling in three different corners. Not simply a matter of set ups. And it produced far better races than NASCAR ever has.

Way better than another cookie cutter like Chicago of Texas .

Rogue Leader
03-26-12, 07:36 AM
Yeah, why not. The place was built for open wheel Indy style racing. It really pushes the compromise with both drivers and machines of staightline speed and handling in three different corners. Not simply a matter of set ups. And it produced far better races than NASCAR ever has.

Way better than another cookie cutter like Chicago of Texas .

They need to put some fences up there. I ran Skip barber cars there in 2004. With no fences at the beginning of the day they pointed that out "There are no fences on the banked turns here, so if you guys race too close someone is getting scraped up out of the parking lot."

Rex Karz
03-26-12, 07:41 AM
Likely replacing TMS, which is fine by me. RMiller, FWIW, says Phoenix to open the 2013 season. Combined w/ rumors of MIS & RA returning, and, IMHO, you've got something.:thumbup: Yes, 15 wasted yrs. to get back to where we started, but so what?

I smell track rentals.

Rex Karz
03-26-12, 07:44 AM
been there. done that. got the t-shirt. [/champcar] :gomer:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7244/phoenix2007.png

The first Houston circuit in the late 1990s wasn't THAT bad. Not good by any means.

The second Houston circuit in CCWS's dying years was awful.

This one looks like it has street parade written all over it. Where is one supposed to pass on this POS?

opinionated ow
03-26-12, 08:13 AM
The first Houston circuit in the late 1990s wasn't THAT bad. Not good by any means.

The second Houston circuit in CCWS's dying years was awful.

This one looks like it has street parade written all over it. Where is one supposed to pass on this POS?

That, my friend, is the ill fated Champ Car Phoenix

Racing Truth
03-26-12, 12:54 PM
They need to put some fences up there. I ran Skip barber cars there in 2004. With no fences at the beginning of the day they pointed that out "There are no fences on the banked turns here, so if you guys race too close someone is getting scraped up out of the parking lot."

That's been changed in the last couple years. And it's newly paved.

Gnam
03-26-12, 01:27 PM
Rex, I was just mocking the "IRL to Phoenix" rumor. ;)

Houston track in 2000:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2571/houston2000mapl.jpg


Houston track in 2006:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9128/houstongp2006trackmap.png

NismoZ
03-26-12, 06:29 PM
RA!? :saywhat: Who sez? I'll start making my picket/demo signs...TONIGHT! Accepting suggestions.

Methanolandbrats
03-26-12, 06:47 PM
RA!? :saywhat: Who sez? I'll start making my picket/demo signs...TONIGHT! Accepting suggestions.

RA, no way. Bunglethis is a cheap ****er and after Champ Car, no way he goes through that again for these ugly pigs and a crowd of 5000 Gomers.

nissan gtp
03-26-12, 07:24 PM
let's go "back" to Denver :gomer:

Don Quixote
03-26-12, 07:43 PM
let's go "back" to Denver :gomer:You make a good point. If you wait 5 or 10 years all the city counsel members that you fleeced for any of these street festivals will be gone, and you can do it all over again. :thumbup:

Methanolandbrats
03-26-12, 08:50 PM
There was a great IMSA GTP race at one of those Houston tracks. I think it was James Weaver in an ancient 962 holding off Jags, Nissans and Yodas while bouncing off the walls. :thumbup::thumbup:

Gnam
03-27-12, 11:58 AM
Now that the IRL is abandoning all that it was, one question remains.


What is their attitude toward beach volleyball?

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6321/houstongp2007beach.jpg

Methanolandbrats
03-27-12, 12:49 PM
^^^ coconut flavored lesbians coated with sand. Very odd sport.

Napoleon
03-27-12, 01:14 PM
coconut flavored lesbians

I am starting a band with that name.

Don Quixote
03-27-12, 01:26 PM
I am starting a band with that name.The name is probably already taken.

Gnam
03-27-12, 01:48 PM
"Coconut Dwarf Assault" was the closest I could find. :laugh:

Methanolandbrats
03-27-12, 01:54 PM
I am starting a band with that name.

A letter from my legal staff will arrive shortly. :D

stroker
03-27-12, 03:12 PM
I'm surprised nobody has commented on Miller's statement on Windbag that Austin is supposedly wanting a .1RL race in '13 for three races in Texas. I seriously doubt the Earl wants a direct lap time comparison with F1...

NismoZ
03-27-12, 03:22 PM
I don't think that one in the black shirt and jeans is a lesbian!