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Napoleon

07-07-10, 07:59 AM

Of course the only news here in Cleveland has been whether LaBron James will stay or go. My impression is that it is similar in Chicago, NYC, Miami and LA.

So now local media is saying ESPN has said they will run, at LaBron's request, a one-hour special tomorrow night at 9pm during which James will announce his decision.

Local fishwrap story. (http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/espn_reports_lebron_james_will.html)

(props to James for one thing, his people are selling all the advertising for the hour and giving it to the Boys and Girls Club of America).

TKGAngel

07-07-10, 08:41 AM

SteveH

07-07-10, 09:11 AM

Boy, those first 59 minutes will be riveting.

TrueBrit

07-07-10, 09:12 AM

I'm genuinely curious as to how ESPN would handle it if one of their reporters got a hold of LeBron's destination before Thursday's show. Would they break the story or force the reporter to sit on it?

I'm genuinely curious as to why anyone gives a crap...how many titles has he won? Five fewer than Kobe Bryant iirc...

opinionated ow

07-07-10, 09:27 AM

Here I was thinking that it was about Lindsay Lohan...I always thought she was the masculine one in that relationship.

dando

07-07-10, 10:10 AM

This just in: E$PN has created a new channel called Le E$PN aka: The King. :gomer: As much as I hate this hype crap over the past two mos., the events occurring over the past 24 hours have been fascinating. And Bosh pulling a Sam Wyche on Cleveburg is hilarious. :laugh:

-Kevin

rosawendel

07-07-10, 10:31 AM

I'm genuinely curious as to why anyone gives a crap...how many titles has he won? Five fewer than Kobe Bryant iirc...

it's all about the ca-ishe. not just hoe much he can get here or there, but how much will leave if he leaves cleveland / comes in to whatever city he ends up at.

before he came here, if you called the cavs and asked what time the game would start, they might have asked you when you could get there. same thing for a restaurant table. you might be able to get a decent table after he goes for a while, but as the restaurants go under, the pickins will get slimmer.

Napoleon

07-07-10, 10:59 AM

Boy, those first 59 minutes will be riveting.

On the local news this morning the one anchor says, with an apparently straight face, "I hope he doesn't make us wait until the end to tell us". This, from TV stations that run teasers at the beginning of their newscast like "crippled poodle lapdog takes downs wild tiger" only to then watch the entire newscast because they then run the story at the end which ends up being cute video of some crippled puppy playing with a stuffed animal.

Andrew Longman

07-07-10, 12:45 PM

Newark (the city) could use LeBron... But then so could Cleveland.

I saw a piece the other day on the economic impact he has on Cleveland. I was amazed. IIRC they said 25 million Chinese TV viewers averages for Cavs games and a big portion of game attendees are foreign visitors.

Don Quixote

07-07-10, 01:07 PM

Boy, those first 59 minutes will be riveting.

At the end, he should look into the camera and announce that he needs more time to think it over. :D

Napoleon

07-07-10, 01:14 PM

. . . and a big portion of game attendees are foreign visitors.

I honestly do not know if that is true or not, but on occasion I have seen interviews with some out of country people on TV who come to see the Cavs, places like from the Ukraine. My favorite though was not foreigners, but as close as anyone who lives in this country could be considered “foreign” (and I mean no offense by that, just they live differant then 99.99999% of us do), some high school seniors from the middle of no where Alaska.

OK I was going to type what I recall of the story but found the below via Google. What I saw on TV gave you a better impression of how it was almost like landing on Mars for the kids. They basically live in a fairly poor town of basically huts and here they see 50 story buildings, fancy sidewalks of bricks (I recall the girl specifically mentioning that) and seeing more people in 15 minutes then they had seen their entire lives up until then. The town is a frontier town like you may have seen in the lower 48 150 years ago or more. The story also doesn’t mention that the trip is a gift the village gives to graduating seniors every year. By the way, I seem to recall that when LaBron found out these kids came from the middle of nowhere Alaska he did meet them.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=87078&provider=top

Napoleon

07-07-10, 01:15 PM

At the end, he should look into the camera and announce that he needs more time to think it over. :D

Better yet, that he is going to the Washington Generals (cue Sweet Georgia Brown).

07-07-10, 01:48 PM

Here I was thinking that it was about Lindsay Lohan...I always thought she was the masculine one in that relationship.

She's going to jail. 90 days. Then lock-down drug treatment.

(sorry for OT, but this just isn't worthy of an actual thread.)

dando

07-07-10, 02:05 PM

(sorry for OT, but this just isn't worthy of an actual thread.)

Unless it includes pics. ;)

-Kevin

TKGAngel

07-07-10, 03:57 PM

Yahoo grips it and rips it with a nicely written summary and commentary on this whole debacle.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrondecision070710

Andrew Longman

07-07-10, 05:12 PM

Yahoo grips it and rips it with a nicely written summary and commentary on this whole debacle.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrondecision070710
He won’t look so much like Kobe Bryant(notes) and David Beckham, but rather a three-star linebacker from Shaker Heights picking Bowling Green over Kent and Ohio U. on local access television.Ouch

Everyone ridicules Cleveland, makes it a butt of jokes, but LeBron James has the chance to change all of that. And even then, it has to crush Cleveland’s sporting psyche that James could still walk out. If one of our own won’t stay, what does that say to the rest of the country?True

Napoleon

07-07-10, 05:26 PM

Yahoo grips it and rips it with a nicely written summary and commentary on this whole debacle.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrondecision070710

That article is going to leave a mark.

All along I have thought he is going to stay, no question, but in a way this all makes you wonder if he is. If he does leave, especially in a live TV show, dude is dead to Cleveland. John Elway and Art Modell will be more popular then him.

Methanolandbrats

07-07-10, 06:05 PM

dando

07-07-10, 06:18 PM

**** Lebron, it's all about him and he's not a team player. That's why at playoff time he rolls over. Double him and he doesn't know what to do which is why Cleveland was never able to advance. He'll never figure out basketball is a team sport. BTW, the Celtics this year played some of the best team ball ever. And the Bucks next year :thumbup::thumbup:

Agreed that he's a diva, but in all honesty he's never had a true #2 threat. Everything that Cavs mgmt has brought in to support him has been old and busted or way overrated. Now if they had kept Boozer around instead of screwing the pooch on that one... :saywhat: :shakehead

So what's the word on Redd's status with the Bucks?

-Kevin

Insomniac

07-07-10, 08:32 PM

I'm genuinely curious as to how ESPN would handle it if one of their reporters got a hold of LeBron's destination before Thursday's show. Would they break the story or force the reporter to sit on it?

I don't think they'll get the info. My guess is he won't actually complete the deal until after the announcement. I would however expect conflicting "reports" on his decision from ESPN during the day.

Methanolandbrats

07-07-10, 08:35 PM

Agreed that he's a diva, but in all honesty he's never had a true #2 threat. Everything that Cavs mgmt has brought in to support him has been old and busted or way overrated. Now if they had kept Boozer around instead of screwing the pooch on that one... :saywhat: :shakehead

So what's the word on Redd's status with the Bucks?

-Kevin

Redd's done, but still soaking up the last year of his 17 mil. Gotta get rid of him. Jennings is gonna get a lot better, Bogut is going to get better, they kept Salmons and Mbah a Moute (incredible defensive player). The draft went well, mostly drafted front line guys who can rebound and play defense when Bogut is resting. I'm excited, they are a team on the way up. Skiles plays defensive based ball the way it's supposed to be played. :thumbup:

extramundane

07-08-10, 10:18 AM

Waaaaaay NSFW commentary from Deadspin (http://bit.ly/90622y) (I guess that's redundant, innit?) which sums up my feelings on the whole thing quite well.

About LBJ anyway, not necessarily about Cleveland the city. :laugh:

dando

07-08-10, 10:30 AM

Don Quixote

07-08-10, 10:48 AM

:thumbup:

TrueBrit

07-08-10, 11:37 AM

Napoleon

07-08-10, 12:11 PM

Well the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting he has told his inner circle he is going to Miami.

Don Quixote

07-08-10, 12:17 PM

http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/1999/1230/photo/a_modell.jpg

Methanolandbrats

07-08-10, 12:34 PM

Well the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting he has told his inner circle he is going to Miami.

Wade and Lebron sharing the ball :rofl:

Don Quixote

07-08-10, 01:16 PM

Wade and Lebron sharing the ball :rofl: Don't forget, Bosh gets his touches also.

Andrew Longman

07-08-10, 01:19 PM

Well the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting he has told his inner circle he is going to Miami.

I happen to be working this week with a woman whose brother is Lebron's shooting coach with the Cavs. As of noon today he doesn't know (and is complaining that he has to go to the dopey news conference tonight)

Methanolandbrats

07-08-10, 01:56 PM

Don't forget, Bosh gets his touches also.

Only way he'll get it is if he rebounds it for a putback :D

Napoleon

07-08-10, 02:18 PM

I happen to be working this week with a woman whose brother is Lebron's shooting coach with the Cavs. As of noon today he doesn't know (and is complaining that he has to go to the dopey news conference tonight)

Are the Cavs requiring him to go? Do you think they would do that unless they knew it was going to be him?

For what it is worth supposedly he is going to announce in the first 10 minutes of the thing (still I will turn it on, if at all, at 9:55).

Napoleon

07-08-10, 02:20 PM

http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/1999/1230/photo/a_modell.jpg

Can anyone Photoshop Labron’s head in there instead of Modell’s?

Andrew Longman

07-08-10, 02:46 PM

Are the Cavs requiring him to go?

She said LeBron wants him there.

Napoleon

07-08-10, 03:59 PM

Awesome, you can watch a live feed from a bar in Cleveland at the Plain Dealer's website so that when LaBron breaks the city's heart you can see people through up, toss stuff at the big screen TV and boo.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/lebron_decision_watch_party_li.html

SteveH

07-08-10, 05:51 PM

Well the Cleveland Plain Dealer is reporting he has told his inner circle he is going to Miami.

No state taxes in FL

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010/20100708120415.aspx

Big money when you talking REALLY big money

Methanolandbrats

07-08-10, 09:26 PM

I'm watching The Decision and I'm damn glad I didn't throw out my carbon fiber sock tethers.

Napoleon

07-08-10, 09:30 PM

F labron

Methanolandbrats

07-08-10, 10:01 PM

I like D Wade, but now I gots a new team to hate :yuck:

extramundane

07-08-10, 10:22 PM

What a Miami Steamer.

Insomniac

07-08-10, 10:25 PM

No state taxes in FL

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010/20100708120415.aspx

Big money when you talking REALLY big money

Don't athletes have to pay taxes to other states when they play an away game there?

Insomniac

07-09-10, 12:03 AM

Open Letter to Fans from Cavaliers Majority Owner Dan Gilbert (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html)

I saw deserted, karma, betrayal, cowardly and curse in there.

Methanolandbrats

07-09-10, 12:10 AM

chop456

07-09-10, 02:21 AM

2 superstars, 1 journeyman and 9 ham & eggers. Good luck with that.

Napoleon

07-09-10, 07:59 AM

Did Lebron James just cost himself 150 million? (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/07/did-lebron-james-just-cost-himself-150.html)

Don't athletes have to pay taxes to other states when they play an away game there?

I thought they did, so it only impacts half his games.

Don Quixote

07-09-10, 08:37 AM

TKGAngel

07-09-10, 09:12 AM

Open Letter to Fans from Cavaliers Majority Owner Dan Gilbert (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html)

I saw deserted, karma, betrayal, cowardly and curse in there.

Wonderful sentiment, but it is kind of lessened by the Comic Sans font.

Can we officially can Cleveland the most miserable sports city in America after this announcement?

Napoleon

07-09-10, 09:17 AM

Open Letter to Fans from Cavaliers Majority Owner Dan Gilbert (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html)

I saw deserted, karma, betrayal, cowardly and curse in there.

Gilbert told the AP last night that James quit in the playoffs (http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/07/dan_gilbert_says_lebron_james.html)

Those words are kind compared to what most Clevelanders are thinking.

Like this?

http://media.cleveland.com/plutoblog_impact/photo/angry-cavs-fan-jgjpg-6ae9f38bb3027285_large.jpg

http://media.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/photo/-e1d57178a6735b9d_large.jpg

You should hear some of the people on the radio and TV this morning. People are POed.

On the way home last night the big talk radio station had Art Modell on weighing in on LaBron. Art told a local newspaper he will still be the most hated man in town though.

http://espn.go.com/media/nfl/1999/1230/photo/a_modell.jpg

Napoleon

07-09-10, 09:36 AM

This is the entire front page of the morning paper:

http://webmedia.newseum.org/newseum-multimedia/dfp/jpg9/lg/OH_CPD.jpg

cameraman

07-09-10, 09:54 AM

Wow. The term Get a life springs to mind.

opinionated ow

07-09-10, 09:55 AM

I realise that I don't really understand Americans BUT why does this matter? I can't imagine rioting when an AFL player changes teams...

emjaya

07-09-10, 10:05 AM

I realise that I don't really understand Americans BUT why does this matter? I can't imagine rioting when an AFL player changes teams...

Obviously, Americans are very passionate about their baseball teams, and the men playing for them.

Yes, We Australians riot over much more important things (http://www.smh.com.au/national/angry-revheads-trash-a-bob-jane-store-20100320-qn7i.html).

Edit: Basketball/ Baseball, whatever.

Methanolandbrats

07-09-10, 11:07 AM

I realise that I don't really understand Americans BUT why does this matter? I can't imagine rioting when an AFL player changes teams...

Because it used to be a top player played for a team his entire career. Now it's more about "me" than "team". And the Heat move smells like a Yankee type move....load up the team and buy your way to a ring. I hate to see that crap really take hold in the NBA.

Napoleon

07-09-10, 01:11 PM

I realise that I don't really understand Americans BUT why does this matter? I can't imagine rioting when an AFL player changes teams...

To add to what MB said above I think 99.99% of the time an average fan here would react the same way an Aussie would to an AFL move, but you have several unusual factors coming together where you end up with a situation where you can have a really ticked off population when this player left.

First the city has an inferiority complex to begin with, and if you are a sports fan that inferiority complex has been given a turbo boost since no major championship has been won by a team since 1964, the last good team the city had, the mid 90’s baseball Indian’s which likely had several players on it that will go to the hall of fame (and baseball is famously stingy with letting players in), was dismantled when the team did not out bid richer teams from bigger media markets for a string of great players (something that is not as much of an issue in football because essentially the incomes of teams are more equal and the payroll is capped, but the city has not had a marquee player or good team for years so it has not been an issue with them). Then after the Indian’s fall apart as players baled out for bigger paychecks the city has its football team up and move to another city. So you end up with a volatile crowd of sports fans to begin with. Something else I should mention is that I have heard others mention that Ohioans, like Texans, have an almost nationalistic view of where they are from. I have not lived outside NE Ohio or traveled a whole lot but I could see that as being true since the area seems to be filled with what I would call “homers”.

So that brings you to LaBron. Not only is he the team’s marquee player, he is arguably the whole league’s marquee player, he grew up just down the road so is a home town boy, talks endlessly of how he loves home, has tattoos that say “loyalty” and “330” (his home area code) and he is in a league that has a rule that allows the team, if it wants, to beat any other offer he gets, which more or less is capped anyways. So the Cavaliers could, in theory, avoid what the Indians could not.

Despite all of that, and with the almost scientific certainty that the offer he took was lower then the one offered him by Cleveland, James turned his back on his home town and did it in a one hour prime time TV special, in which he never even thanked this city or the team for anything (so I am told). He may as well have taken to the airwaves to talk trash about everyone’s mom in Cleveland.

(Note, I understand that with private endorsement deals it is possible that moving to another city could yield him more money in total, but read the Nate Silver post I link to above and it is hard to see Miami as being one of those towns, unlike NYC or Chicago).

Gnam

07-09-10, 01:32 PM

He's going to Florida to be Tiger Wood's wingman. :gomer:

Don Quixote

07-09-10, 01:34 PM

Whitlock's take.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-chasing-celebrity-not-championships-070910

SteveH

07-09-10, 02:06 PM

I hope this gives Danica ideas. :gomer:

chop456

07-09-10, 02:40 PM

No way. Even Spud Webb was taller than her.

07-09-10, 03:02 PM

Now that it's all over, I can put all of my GAF back into the box and put it in storage on top of my World Cup GAF.

:\

Gnam

07-09-10, 03:08 PM

Whitlock's take.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-chasing-celebrity-not-championships-070910

"There’ll be more new baby-mamas than championships."

:laugh:

JoeBob

07-09-10, 03:09 PM

Don't athletes have to pay taxes to other states when they play an away game there?

Yes, and Tennessee is really weird - NHL and NBA (but not NFL) players have to pay $2,500 per game (for up to 3 games). That means some younger NHL players are actually PAYING to play road games against the Preds. Interesting article on it here: http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/32472-Brian-Rafalski-says-state-tax-on-pro-athletes-takes-too-big-a-bite-out-of-cheques.html

Insomniac

07-09-10, 03:22 PM

Mailbag Full of Sadness here: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100709

Some gems like:

City: Columbus
Name: Seth
I think this is the first time in history one man managed to destroy an entire city by himself. Even the Enola Gay had a flight crew.

City: Maynard
Name: Marcus
I waited 27 minutes to hear LeBron say that he was gonna be Dwyane Wade's lackey? What a joke.

Gnam

07-09-10, 04:02 PM

Mailbag Full of Sadness here: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100709
They are not taking it well. "Born here. Raised here. Played here. Betrayed here."

Way too many wrestling analogies, so you know they're real. :gomer::(

Napoleon

07-09-10, 04:12 PM

Mailbag Full of Sadness here: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100709

Both that story and the mailbag is choke full of awesome. I love it how some are calling it "The Decision". Perfect! It will join its place along side “The Shot”, “The Fumble” and “Red Right 88”.

I like this one:

City: Atlanta, Ga.
Name: Eric Retter
Closest example to what LeBron did with Cleveland: Instead of proposing to your girlfriend, dumping your wife on the Jumbotron. At the Super Bowl.

First the city has an inferiority complex to begin with, and if you are a sports fan that inferiority complex has been given a turbo boost . . . .

Here is an example of what I mean. (http://redright88lclevelandsports.blogspot.com/)Especially if you look down the page and see “Everything in Cleveland sports ends badly, otherwise it wouldn't be Cleveland. - Coughlin's Law”

cameraman

07-09-10, 04:47 PM

Something else I should mention is that I have heard others mention that Ohioans, like Texans, have an almost nationalistic view of where they are from.

Something which leaves the rest of the nation shaking their heads going WTF?
:D

Andrew Longman

07-10-10, 12:04 PM

Something which leaves the rest of the nation shaking their heads going WTF?
:D

Or the howihateohiostate chants. Growing up, driving across Ohio to see Grandma in MI I never felt comfortable in Ohio. Enemy territory.

That all said, I think this is very sad for Cleveland. Cleveland has had it ass kicked in the last several decades and while no city should hang its well being on a single player or person Lebron was much of all they have left. Crap, they don't even have a CART race anymore.

As for the rest of America, I read a certain amount of curiosity in a slow news week, but mostly cynicism and WGAF.

SteveH

07-10-10, 03:16 PM

Yo

Rayvon is pissed in this very NSFW YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4GBs4A9MNM)

:D

STD

07-10-10, 06:03 PM

Whitlock's take.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-chasing-celebrity-not-championships-070910

Jason Whitlock writes about the sports world from every angle, including those other writers can't imagine or muster courage to address. His columns are humorous, thought-provoking, agenda free, honest and unpredictable.

:rofl:

Indy

07-10-10, 07:10 PM

The NBA sucks. WGAF.

Napoleon

07-10-10, 07:54 PM

Interesting, and I am dead serious about this, today the Cavs resigned LaBron and immediately traded him to the Heat. Apparently this allows the Heat to take advantage of the home town discount under the cap (and so now have, in effect, even more money to sign more people) and the Cavs got a series of draft choices.

Yesterday the media was calling Nike left and right about what they were going to do about the striking huge, huge (like 10 stories high or something like that)LaBron they had on the side of a building coming into downtown and today the building had workers on it tearing it off.

Yo

Rayvon is pissed in this very NSFW YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4GBs4A9MNM)

Awesome, if I see this guy on the street I will by him a beer.

Crap, they don't even have a CART race anymore.

On the plus side we avoided that joke of an oval track that the IRL almost got here.

Methanolandbrats

07-10-10, 08:52 PM

The NBA sucks. WGAF.

Basketball is the best game ever invented and the NBA has the best athletes on Earth. End of discussion.

nrc

07-10-10, 08:56 PM

Basketball is the best game ever invented and the NBA has the best athletes on Earth. End of discussion.

"Game" being the operative word. :gomer:

Indy

07-10-10, 11:21 PM

Basketball is the best game ever invented and the NBA has the best athletes on Earth. End of discussion.

Meh. Pointless and boring. At least there is some strategy and thinking involved in football and baseball. Something to hold your attention. The NBA's reliance on gimmicks, personalities, and showboating make it the NASCAR of ball sports. I don't think it has been compelling since Magic and Bird were at their peak.

rosawendel

07-10-10, 11:42 PM

now zydrunas wants to go play ball.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas considers joining Heat (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38185147/ns/sports-player_news/)

Don Quixote

07-11-10, 03:35 AM

Yesterday the media was calling Nike left and right about what they were going to do about the striking huge, huge (like 10 stories high or something like that)LaBron they had on the side of a building coming into downtown and today the building had workers on it tearing it off.

Nice photoshop. :laugh:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/witnesses-m4b1.jpg

Methanolandbrats

07-11-10, 08:22 AM

Meh. Pointless and boring. At least there is some strategy and thinking involved in football and baseball. Something to hold your attention. The NBA's reliance on gimmicks, personalities, and showboating make it the NASCAR of ball sports. I don't think it has been compelling since Magic and Bird were at their peak.

No strategy in basketball? :laugh: The only "thinking" there is in baseball is deciding what hand to scratch their nuts with while they stand around for hours. And football, watching fat guys stand around, fall over, stand around, fall over....is the height of excitement.

Insomniac

07-11-10, 09:36 AM

Indy

07-11-10, 08:39 PM

No strategy in basketball? :laugh: The only "thinking" there is in baseball is deciding what hand to scratch their nuts with while they stand around for hours. And football, watching fat guys stand around, fall over, stand around, fall over....is the height of excitement.

On a scale of one to ten, I give football and baseball each a one, so I agree with you about them, but I give basketball a zero.

racermike

07-11-10, 11:24 PM

Here is one of the best meltdowns I have seen. Wonder how many burgers this guy had to flip to buy his expensive LeBron gear, only to burn it up?

CA8IrWSdzEU

and here is the aftermath of this, on Ebay

http://tinyurl.com/27x2wwn

Napoleon

07-12-10, 08:20 AM

Nice photoshop. :laugh:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/witnesses-m4b1.jpg

That is my new wallpaper on my work computer now.

As for the real thing:

http://media.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/photo/lebron-james-mural-comes-down-d12450405ebf1a46_custom_665xauto.jpg

Napoleon

07-12-10, 08:48 AM

and here is the aftermath of this, on Ebay

http://tinyurl.com/27x2wwn

Fathead is running a sale of James dunking - price slashed from $99.99 to $17.41. (http://www.fathead.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/lebron-james/)

Why $17.41? Because it was the year this guy was born. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold)

Don Quixote

07-12-10, 10:33 AM

That's pretty funny. I think the local micro brewery should make a summer ale and call it 1741.

Napoleon

07-12-10, 11:16 AM

That's pretty funny. I think the local micro brewery should make a summer ale and call it 1741.

Maybe they can rename this for the summer. (http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/uploads/Beer/GL09-709%20TastingGuideLong_5%207%2010%20(3)%2014.pdf)

dando

07-12-10, 11:23 AM

Fathead is running a sale of James dunking - price slashed from $99.99 to $17.41. (http://www.fathead.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/lebron-james/)

Why $17.41? Because it was the year this guy was born. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold)

You forgot to mention that Gilbert owns Fathead. :D

-Kevin

Napoleon

07-12-10, 11:33 AM

You forgot to mention that Gilbert owns Fathead. :D

-Kevin

That would be correct. Now if he would only cap closing cost on a Quicken Loan at $1741.

grungex

07-12-10, 04:20 PM

Wow. When will this idiot just go away?

Jesse Jackson said Gilbert's comments were "mean, arrogant and presumptuous."

"He speaks as an owner of LeBron and not the owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers," the reverend said in a release from his Chicago-based civil rights group, the Rainbow PUSH Coalition. "His feelings of betrayal personify a slave master mentality. He sees LeBron as a runaway slave. This is an owner employee relationship -- between business partners -- and LeBron honored his contract."

Uh, right.

Don Quixote

07-12-10, 04:23 PM

Yeah, Lebron is clearly the victim in this deal.

STD

07-12-10, 04:58 PM

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Napoleon

07-12-10, 05:35 PM

Yeah, Lebron is clearly the victim in this deal.

He is, because having someone say mean things about you in Comic Sans font is just like being sold off like cattle, having your family broken up against your will, being whipped if you are not working as hard as the master thinks you should me, all while not being paid for your labor.

Exactly the same thing.

What kills me about quotes like that is how it devaluates the horrendous suffering of the slaves (and if I am remembering correctly in the last 15 years or so Albert Belle and Tavis Smiley were quoted saying something similar in high dollar negotiations they were involved with).

cameraman

07-13-10, 12:31 AM

Ouch, fined $100,000 for using Comic Sans.

Don Quixote

07-13-10, 09:36 AM

Ouch, fined $100,000 for using Comic Sans.Think how bad it could have been if he had used a color font.

extramundane

07-13-10, 10:16 AM

Ouch, fined $100,000 for using Comic Sans.

Not nearly strict enough, if you ask me.

Sincerely,
The Guy Who Formerly Had To Edit Teacher Webpages

TKGAngel

07-13-10, 10:23 AM

Ad Age (http://adage.com/article?article_id=144882) looks at The Decision from the marketing POV. Pretty nice read, if only for the comments from media insiders at the bottom.

The slavery card is a relatively new one for me. It does trump the "I can't feed my family on X million dollars a year" in the oddball excuse/statement contest.

Napoleon

07-13-10, 10:56 AM

Ad Age (http://adage.com/article?article_id=144882) looks at The Decision from the marketing POV. Pretty nice read, if only for the comments from media insiders at the bottom.

So per the story his agent is allegedly the guy who was the template for the Jerry McQuire (“show me the money”) character from the movies (and brother to Pres. Obama’s chief of staff).

TrueBrit

07-13-10, 11:41 AM

Here's what I don't get.

The guy hasn't done squat. I would understand if he had won mulitple rings and was clearly the best player in the league, but neither of those statements are remotely true..

So what is the BFD?

"We are witness"...to what, exactly? $60 million down the hole and the same number of championship rings as I have. None.

Meh. Get back to me when you win something.

Oh, and the Rev needs to STFU and get back to being irrelevant again..

devilmaster

07-13-10, 12:09 PM

Oh, and the Rev needs to STFU and get back to being irrelevant again..

Guess I missed it. When did he -stop- being irrelevant? ;)

dando

07-13-10, 12:13 PM

Here's what I don't get.

The guy hasn't done squat. I would understand if he had won mulitple rings and was clearly the best player in the league, but neither of those statements are remotely true..

Huh? Kobe and LBJ are widely considered the two best players in the NBA by far. Most experts consider them 1A and 1B. LBJ is also only 25. Kobe is 31. I'm not an LBJ defender by far, but it is a fact that the teams he played on with the Cavs weren't even close to the Lakers teams Kobe has had. Kobe played with Shaq in his prime and now has Artest, Gasol, Bynum and Odom in his posse. LBJ had a broken down Shaq and a past his prime (and overrated) Jamison this season, and the likes of Wally S., Drew Gooden, Donyell Marshall, etc. in the past. Frankly, if you look @ the Cavs' roster the past few seasons, it's amazing they won 60+ games the past two seasons alone.

-Kevin

WickerBill

07-13-10, 01:10 PM

I don't mean to get political, but I'm a big free-market person, so therefore I believe James fulfilled his contract and should be allowed to play anywhere he darn well pleases going forward. I can also see Jesse Jackson's point -- hear me out -- that Gilbert's rant looked like a jilted owner of a person, not of a team or a franchise. That's what you get, however, when you view everything through the binoculars of race.

If Cuban had reacted the same way when Dirk opted for free-agency (let's say Dirk left the Mavs), I think it would have struck me the same way Gilbert's letter did... a billionaire expecting unending loyalty from a millionaire and outrage that he dare leave when his binding contract was up. It's stupid. Gilbert should have tried a new coach after the Cavs lost to Orlando in 08-09 so James would have had a year to know how it was going to turn out.

All that being said, the way he left was appalling. I will root vigorously against Miami next season, if I can bother watching. This makes me like Kobe more, and I hate James for that!

TrueBrit

07-13-10, 01:12 PM

Huh? Kobe and LBJ are widely considered the two best players in the NBA by far. Most experts consider them 1A and 1B. LBJ is also only 25. Kobe is 31. I'm not an LBJ defender by far, but it is a fact that the teams he played on with the Cavs weren't even close to the Lakers teams Kobe has had. Kobe played with Shaq in his prime and now has Artest, Gasol, Bynum and Odom in his posse. LBJ had a broken down Shaq and a past his prime (and overrated) Jamison this season, and the likes of Wally S., Drew Gooden, Donyell Marshall, etc. in the past. Frankly, if you look @ the Cavs' roster the past few seasons, it's amazing they won 60+ games the past two seasons alone.

-Kevin His ROI has been zero rings for $60 million. My point is he hasn't lived up to the hype, and certainly wasn't worthy of last week's "Hey look at me" coverage..