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dando
11-02-10, 11:19 AM
Just saw this, which certainly can't be true:



:eek: :eek: :D

H8r. :gomer:

-Kevin

Ankf00
11-05-10, 02:30 PM
http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1148672

Longhorn TV


eabod

cameraman
11-06-10, 04:57 PM
Yeesh. TCU is destroying Utah.

dando
11-06-10, 09:28 PM
Yeesh. TCU is destroying Utah.

Some doofus from Denver now owes me some beverage. I called 17+ earlier in the week. :gomer:

In other news, UM 67, Illini 65 :eek: :saywhat:

And Roll Tide! :gomer: The was pretty much the coaches I hate the most bowl. :saywhat:

-Kevin

dando
11-06-10, 10:28 PM
Texas. Epic. Fail. @ least this one ain't @ home. :gomer: :p

-Kevin

Don Quixote
11-07-10, 07:31 PM
Texas is officially Notre Dame South.

Own TV network, check
Obnoxious fans, check :D
Bad football team, check

Ankf00
11-08-10, 08:41 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs985.snc4/75826_10100376759308200_7903909_65902084_5884568_n .jpg

Indy
11-09-10, 01:55 AM
$7.00 for a shot of Jagermeister? That's $189 for 40 oz. You could have bought a 1.75L (60 oz.) for $40. :laugh:

chop456
11-09-10, 02:37 AM
What's "Healthy SF"? The fun tax? :rofl:

$7 shots are why pregaming was invented. That's a 1/2 barrel of good beer.

Don Quixote
11-09-10, 09:25 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
So, did "Kelly" ever ask you guys if maybe you just might have had enough?

Methanolandbrats
11-09-10, 09:35 AM
Very impressive B/G (booze/guests) ratio :thumbup:

extramundane
11-09-10, 10:56 AM
Texas is officially Notre Dame South.

Does that mean Ank is Spicoli South? :D


/runsandhides

dando
11-09-10, 11:17 AM
Does that mean Ank is Spicoli South? :D


/runsandhides

He's officially known as Tan Spickly.

*runslikehell*

:D

-Kevin

Ankf00
11-10-10, 03:38 PM
What's "Healthy SF"? The fun tax? :rofl:

$7 shots are why pregaming was invented. That's a 1/2 barrel of good beer.

Garret Gilbert is why $7 shots were invented

TKGAngel
11-10-10, 03:42 PM
How the heck were you still standing after that much booze? And a 9.75% tax rate? Holy moses.

dando
11-13-10, 10:40 PM
Texas is B.A.D. Bad, bad, bad. Laying another turd @ home to Okie OSU. :laugh:

Wisky lays 83 on IU?!? :eek: When did D become optional in the Big 10+1. :saywhat:

Urban Meyer looks like he needs some better meds. Goters == not good.

Come on Cal!

-Kevin

Methanolandbrats
11-13-10, 11:16 PM
Bucky takes the Hoosiers every way possible.....twice...........without lube. :D

cameraman
11-14-10, 12:41 AM
Well Utah has taken imploding to a new level:shakehead

Gnam
11-15-10, 03:00 AM
Come on Cal!

-Kevin
Welcome to Cal football.

First they get your hopes up, then they crush your soul.
Every time. :gomer:

dando
11-15-10, 10:13 AM
Well Utah has taken imploding to a new level:shakehead

I called that turd a couple of weeks ago, and now they are sinking TCU to boot. :laugh:

-Kevin

Gnam
11-19-10, 02:15 AM
This is an outrage! :D

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Cheaters-never-win-except-always-college-football-Oregon-California?GT1=39002

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you.

dando
11-19-10, 01:06 PM
Insane.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/news/story?id=5824661


Only one end zone will be used for offense Saturday at Wrigley Field for the Illinois-Northwestern game because of safety concerns, the Big Ten announced Friday.

The east end zone is just feet away from the right-field wall, and although there is padding, there still were concerns that players could be injured there.

Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald had said this week that he would have different game plans for each end zone to avoid the possibility of injury.

When a team is on offense Saturday, it will be positioned to head to the west end zone.

:saywhat: :shakehead

And here I thought NW was supposed to be a good school. :irked:

-Kevin

chop456
11-19-10, 01:22 PM
What does NW have to do with it, besides agreeing to play in that archeological site?

Don Quixote
11-19-10, 01:23 PM
Sissies. Not too long ago the goal posts were at the goal line. :gomer:

dando
11-19-10, 01:26 PM
What does NW have to do with it, besides agreeing to play in that archeological site?

It's their plan. It's their home game. Illinois agreed to it. Dumb & dumber.

-Kevin

devilmaster
11-20-10, 05:14 AM
Insane.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/news/story?id=5824661



:saywhat: :shakehead

And here I thought NW was supposed to be a good school. :irked:

-Kevin

As someone on sportsradio said today, If you're going to do a special neutral site that isn't a football field, there should be a list of things you need to figure out....

"And wouldn't #1 on the list be 'Make sure the field fits!?!?!?!?' " :shakehead

Who missed this? I mean really! No one ever thought to check it? Nobody made a computer simulation? Hell, nobody walked out with a wheel measure thingy and tried to make sure theres at least 130 yards between the walls at Wrig?

dando
11-20-10, 11:46 AM
As someone on sportsradio said today, If you're going to do a special neutral site that isn't a football field, there should be a list of things you need to figure out....

"And wouldn't #1 on the list be 'Make sure the field fits!?!?!?!?' " :shakehead

Who missed this? I mean really! No one ever thought to check it? Nobody made a computer simulation? Hell, nobody walked out with a wheel measure thingy and tried to make sure theres at least 130 yards between the walls at Wrig?

According to the article, a Big 10+1 rep even walked the field and approved it. This is a screw up on multiple levels. :saywhat:

-Kevin

dando
11-20-10, 06:58 PM
After seeing this field live, I have no idea how ANYONE signed off on this. The east end zone ends into a padded (barely) brick wall. :saywhat:

-Kevin

Gnam
11-20-10, 11:44 PM
Arena football, bay-bee! [/wave of the future]

Methanolandbrats
11-21-10, 09:13 AM
Why not just shorten the field and play an 85 or 90 yard game. A less stupider idea than switching sides all the time.

Insomniac
11-22-10, 10:51 AM
As someone on sportsradio said today, If you're going to do a special neutral site that isn't a football field, there should be a list of things you need to figure out....

"And wouldn't #1 on the list be 'Make sure the field fits!?!?!?!?' " :shakehead

Who missed this? I mean really! No one ever thought to check it? Nobody made a computer simulation? Hell, nobody walked out with a wheel measure thingy and tried to make sure theres at least 130 yards between the walls at Wrig?


"We've been planning for this for a while, there were no surprises. The field came out the way we thought, it ended up maybe being a little closer with some of the padding.

Insomniac
11-22-10, 10:53 AM
Why not just shorten the field and play an 85 or 90 yard game. A less stupider idea than switching sides all the time.

I think switching sides is preferable to a shorter field. Better to accept the weather implications than drastically change the field size.

SteveH
11-22-10, 11:46 AM
When the Bears played at Wrigley, the field went N-S not E-W. I assume that configuration wouldn't work as their are additional rows of seats in the well area behind home plate, although I'm not sure. Anyone know why the field was positioned E-W?

Andrew Longman
11-22-10, 12:03 PM
The Bear played there for 50 years. And they played with the field going N-S not E-W. It didn't seem like a good idea to put the field the way it worked for 50 years. As if it never occurred to Halas that it might work E-W?

Edit: stephen, didn't see your post. you might be on to something.

cameraman
11-22-10, 12:43 PM
Back in the day there were sections of baseball stands that were removable so the football field fit. The removable stands are now concrete and as such are no longer removable so a football field would not even come close to fitting in the old orientation.

Andrew Longman
11-22-10, 12:59 PM
Back in the day there were sections of baseball stands that were removable so the football field fit. The removable stands are now concrete and as such are no longer removable so a football field would not even come close to fitting in the old orientation.

Looks to be. http://www.stadiumsofprofootball.com/past/WrigleyField.htmhttp://www.stadiumsofprofootball.com/past/images/wrig08950.jpgBarely fit then.

Now http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1117/ncf_a_wrigley_300.jpg

Don't think there will be more football there after this.

Napoleon
11-27-10, 07:55 AM
Nevada stuns No. 3 Boise State 34-31 in overtime (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/27/AR2010112700540.html?hpid=artslot)

dando
11-27-10, 09:01 AM
Nevada stuns No. 3 Boise State 34-31 in overtime (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/27/AR2010112700540.html?hpid=artslot)

Got damn. I recorded Auburn/'Bama and the Ugly Ducks/Desert Storm, but not this one. :irked: :mad:

-Kevin

dando
11-27-10, 10:09 AM
Oh, and I must add:

MUCK FICHIGAN!

-Kevin

Napoleon
11-27-10, 11:30 AM
Oh, and I must add:

MUCK FICHIGAN!

-Kevin

Where is JimBob?

Andrew Longman
11-27-10, 03:47 PM
Oh, and I must add:

MUCK FICHIGAN!

-KevinWatching this mess the genuine upside is the repeated talk of this being Rodriguez last (Big) game. Harbaugh? Perhaps worst of all is RR can't even seem to recruit.

STD
11-27-10, 03:56 PM
The defense has been great since he brought in Greg Robinson. :rofl:

dando
11-27-10, 05:15 PM
Watching this mess the genuine upside is the repeated talk of this being Rodriguez last (Big) game. Harbaugh? Perhaps worst of all is RR can't even seem to recruit.

Dude 3 ==> 5 ==> 7 Ws the past three years. Save Rich Rod, puhleeze. :gomer: :D RichRod's biggest issue is that he insists on using the 3-3-5 D. :saywhat:

-Kevin

Methanolandbrats
11-27-10, 08:52 PM
http://www.hawaiifootballfanatics.com/wp-content/uploads/badger2.jpg should be in Natl Champ Game.

stroker
11-27-10, 10:15 PM
^^^^^^^^ Man, he looks PISSED.

Come to think of it, I've never heard of anyone with a pet badger....

WickerBill
11-27-10, 10:38 PM
Grumpy horned frog is not impressed by your badger:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w205/Yzador/amazon-horned-frog.jpg

Methanolandbrats
11-27-10, 10:57 PM
http://sealandfoodsinc.com/images/frog%20legs2.jpg

WickerBill
11-27-10, 11:01 PM
:D:thumbup:

Ankf00
11-28-10, 12:23 AM
http://www.hawaiifootballfanatics.com/wp-content/uploads/badger2.jpg should be in Natl Champ Game.

what an unfortunate looking creature

devilmaster
11-28-10, 05:28 AM
http://www.stadiumsofprofootball.com/past/images/wrig08950.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/1117/ncf_a_wrigley_300.jpg

Well, first off the left field bleachers on waveland weren't there for the old field.... And to be honest, looks like the field barely fit in that scenario too. Look at the left end zone corner near 1st base. that corner hits the stands...

Is there a better aerial shot of the new field?

Napoleon
11-28-10, 07:06 AM
Is there a better aerial shot of the new field?

Try Google Maps.

dando
11-28-10, 10:50 AM
should be in Natl Champ Game.

Then Bucky shouldn't have lost to MSU, which Iowa beat down, which lost to Minnie yesterday. :laugh: Congrats on being the tallest dwarf. :p

-Kevin

Andrew Longman
11-28-10, 10:56 AM
And to be honest, looks like the field barely fit in that scenario too. Look at the left end zone corner near 1st base. that corner hits the stands...No kidding. And that was something they put up with for decades, not one game. How times and the NFL have changed. A long way from Jerry World in TX. :shakehead.

Back in the day real men didn't worry about plowing into the stands if they wanted to play football nor did they worry about pit lane speed limits or the turf at The Vet or the open toilets smack in the middle of the Colts locker room in Memorial Stadium :gomer:

Methanolandbrats
11-28-10, 11:13 AM
Then Bucky shouldn't have lost to MSU, which Iowa beat down, which lost to Minnie yesterday. :laugh: Congrats on being the tallest dwarf. :p

-Kevin

Eggactly why they need a playoff because team development during the season is not considered, while single games are too heavily weighted. Bucky's offense is the best in the country, nobody can do anything about it now. Scrap one meaningless pre-season game and have a 16 team four-week playoff. They play till early Jan anyway. Of course the football establishment seems too stupid to figure out the "month of December" would be as big as "March Madness".

Andrew Longman
11-28-10, 12:01 PM
the "month of December" would be as big as "March Madness".Bigger.

But alumni and presidents wouldn't be assured about a 1 in 2 chance of playing in a bowl somewhere where they can drink, vacation and be generally stupid and self important (while generating income for the school).

WickerBill
11-28-10, 12:10 PM
Of course the football establishment seems too stupid to figure out the "month of December" would be as big as "March Madness".

I've read somewhere -- maybe here -- that "March Madness" makes huge money for the NCAA, but the bowls make huge money for the schools... and the schools don't want to give that money up. It just seems like the money could be worked out, and that a college football playoff would be worth more than the sum of it's parts to TV and advertisers.

I think it should be eight teams over four weeks. The four Elite 8 games are played the week before NFL wildcard weekend; maybe Thursday night and Friday night, prime time. The two Final Four games are played the Monday night after the NFL divisional round (woo hoo, Monday Night Football in January). Then college FB takes a week off during the NFL championship round, and plays the CFB championship game the Sunday that the NFL takes off before the Super Bowl. That gets it wrapped up by late January.

If we feel the need to get it done earlier for the sake of the "student-athletes", then the NFL needs to cooperate and get rid of some Saturday games.

devilmaster
11-28-10, 01:28 PM
Try Google Maps.

I meant of the new football field they used....

devilmaster
11-28-10, 01:41 PM
Eggactly why they need a playoff because team development during the season is not considered, while single games are too heavily weighted. Bucky's offense is the best in the country, nobody can do anything about it now. Scrap one meaningless pre-season game and have a 16 team four-week playoff. They play till early Jan anyway. Of course the football establishment seems too stupid to figure out the "month of December" would be as big as "March Madness".

Totally agree. I was hoping Boise would win outright with TCU. Anything that wrecks the BCS is good to me. :)

dando
11-28-10, 05:51 PM
Preaches to the choir.

Fixed. :gomer: :p

-Kevin

Ankf00
11-28-10, 06:11 PM
Eggactly why they need a playoff because team development during the season is not considered, while single games are too heavily weighted.

you say too heavily weighted, I say weighted as it should be. there's a reward for being consistent as opposed to getting hot late lester miles style.


and what WB said, an NCAA playoff means the NCAA is the one that makes the contract and keeps the money. the BCS system delivers half the money to the schools directly (although the bowls dont deserve the half they currently pull in). the goal isn't recreating march madness, the goal is retaining control of the system and revenue stream

Methanolandbrats
11-28-10, 06:58 PM
you say too heavily weighted, I say weighted as it should be. there's a reward for being consistent as opposed to getting hot late lester miles style.


and what WB said, an NCAA playoff means the NCAA is the one that makes the contract and keeps the money. the BCS system delivers half the money to the schools directly (although the bowls dont deserve the half they currently pull in). the goal isn't recreating march madness, the goal is retaining control of the system and revenue stream

Schools get TV money no matter where they play or under what system. All the more true as more "Big Ten Network Leagues" are formed. The goal is to have the National Champion decided on the field, not by a bunch of computer dicks writing algorithms. BCS has only been around for a little over 10 years and could easily be scrapped for a playoff system. The good ol boys in the BCS cities could have their playoff game. The championship game could rotate. All the other towns that host crappy bowls could still have bowls with teams that did not make the cut (same as NIT in hoops). There is no good arguement against having a playoff.

Ankf00
11-29-10, 01:04 AM
Schools get TV money no matter where they play or under what system. All the more true as more "Big Ten Network Leagues" are formed.
the BTN deals with regular season B10 sports, which the B10 has rights to. the B10 doesn't have direct rights to basketball television revenue from march madness. it's a matter of the NCAA controlling the system and revenues vs. the schools' controlling it directly through their BCS system.

the current payout per team per game in the ncaa tournament is $222,506, and it's been that for years, it totals 167M paid out to the teams for the tournament. the TV contract is for 770M/yr with another 40M from ticket revenue, it accounts for 90%+ of the NCAA's operating budget.

the BCS will receive $125M/yr from ESPN starting next year (142.5M paid out to teams this past year despite an 82M fox contract, the extra 60M comes from the bowl games' direct revenues), 100% of it will be distributed to the schools.


no one's giving up the control and the $$$, the best chance we had for that was the Pac-16 forcing the Big Ten to go 16 forcing the SEC to go 16 forcing a 4th 16 team conf, then the schools would've squeezed out the NCAA and been able to create a defacto 8 team playoff between the division winners playing CCG's combined w/ a +1 postseason

http://onlinecashonline.com/personal-finance/march-madness-means-money/
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/3b09b5004e0d54799ef1fe1ad6fc8b25/2010+Division+I+Basketball+Distribution.pdf?MOD=AJ PERES&CACHEID=3b09b5004e0d54799ef1fe1ad6fc8b25
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/385552-march-madness-new-ncaa-hoops-tourney-tv-deal-means-chnages-are-coming
http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/64647

Methanolandbrats
11-29-10, 07:24 AM
the BTN deals with regular season B10 sports, which the B10 has rights to. the B10 doesn't have direct rights to basketball television revenue from march madness. it's a matter of the NCAA controlling the system and revenues vs. the schools' controlling it directly through their BCS system.

the current payout per team per game in the ncaa tournament is $222,506, and it's been that for years, it totals 167M paid out to the teams for the tournament. the TV contract is for 770M/yr with another 40M from ticket revenue, it accounts for 90%+ of the NCAA's operating budget.

the BCS will receive $125M/yr from ESPN starting next year (142.5M paid out to teams this past year despite an 82M fox contract, the extra 60M comes from the bowl games' direct revenues), 100% of it will be distributed to the schools.


no one's giving up the control and the $$$, the best chance we had for that was the Pac-16 forcing the Big Ten to go 16 forcing the SEC to go 16 forcing a 4th 16 team conf, then the schools would've squeezed out the NCAA and been able to create a defacto 8 team playoff between the division winners playing CCG's combined w/ a +1 postseason

http://onlinecashonline.com/personal-finance/march-madness-means-money/
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/3b09b5004e0d54799ef1fe1ad6fc8b25/2010+Division+I+Basketball+Distribution.pdf?MOD=AJ PERES&CACHEID=3b09b5004e0d54799ef1fe1ad6fc8b25
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/385552-march-madness-new-ncaa-hoops-tourney-tv-deal-means-chnages-are-coming
http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/64647

NIce statistics pick and pluck :laugh:

Andrew Longman
11-29-10, 12:06 PM
...no one's giving up the control and the $$$,I think that's the best and simplest explanation I've seen.

Still, it is a tragedy of the commons of sorts. The best thing for all involved would be a playoff system. It would be huge. But someone has to take the lead and have the long and broad view top of mind. Giving that over to the NCAA will not happen because they've shown themselves as self serving whores. And that leave...?

Insomniac
11-30-10, 10:47 AM
I think that's the best and simplest explanation I've seen.

Still, it is a tragedy of the commons of sorts. The best thing for all involved would be a playoff system. It would be huge. But someone has to take the lead and have the long and broad view top of mind. Giving that over to the NCAA will not happen because they've shown themselves as self serving whores. And that leave...?

I say no one. You rarely hear schools complaining about the current system. It's usually a team that was close to the top ranking doing the complaining, but there is rarely the same school/coach/athletic director beating the playoff drum, it's the fans and media. If everyone directly involved is happy, why would they change it?

Andrew Longman
11-30-10, 11:53 AM
If everyone directly involved is happy, why would they change it?Only because the people who actually buy those tickets and spend time in front of the TV would like it so much better. And because everyone directly involved would make much more money.

But you are right. It won't change for the reasons you say.

In other news... Oh Goody. TCU joins the Big East. Horny Frogs on the banks of the Raritan!

Just four years ago there was serious talk of Rutger joining the Big Ten/Eleven.

Originally, the Big East football (conceived instead as a Basketball product) was supposed to be Penn State, WV, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Rutgers, Temple, VT with eventually perhaps Delaware, Nova, Army and Navy. That would have been cool. But too good of idea to actually happen.

Even as a basketball league it is way too diluted now. No one cares.

Edit: I need to add that TCU was the only D1 school that showed the least bit of interest in me as a HS football player (the interest lasted about a day). TCU had won about 2 games in 10 years at the time. Later they were nailed for paying recruits. I have to say I was miffed they never offered me money, but if they were offering money and interested in players as unremarkable as me then it is no wonder why they sucked.

dando
11-30-10, 01:07 PM
Just four months ago there was serious talk of Rutger joining the Big Ten/Eleven.


Fixed. Big Red R was mentioned during the rumors of Big 10+6 expansion this past spring/summer. Pitt, 'cuse, Big Red R and Notre Lame were mentioned with a few others (Texas, etc.).

-Kevin

Andrew Longman
11-30-10, 02:33 PM
Yes, still makes some sense as Rutgers is of the size and academic caliber the B10 wants and it gives them access to the NYC market. Best choice in that regard of all Big East schools. May still happen and it would be better for RU than anything the Big East will ever do.

But its been a while since anyone wanted to see Rutgers play MI, tOSU or PSU since now it would seem they'd get their brains beat in. RU fans feel foolish even bringing it up the last few years.

Big East is not done though. They are putting a lot of pressure on Nova, who didn't even have a football program a few years ago, to move to D1 and the Big East. Also mentioned are East Carolina, Central FL, Houston, and Temple (especially if Nova passes, they would be good for the Philly market and traditional match ups -- but they were already shown the door once).

Still, these are all crap football with no histories. Makes for a crap conference picking up BCS scraps.

Napoleon
11-30-10, 04:21 PM
They are putting a lot of pressure on Nova

Nova? Isn't that a school out of Ft Lauderdale?

Insomniac
11-30-10, 05:57 PM
Only because the people who actually buy those tickets and spend time in front of the TV would like it so much better. And because everyone directly involved would make much more money.

I'd think if the people directly involved could make more money, they wouldn't have too hard of a time pulling it off. Would everyone make more money or just the super programs?

Methanolandbrats
11-30-10, 06:11 PM
Nobody cares about sports, tradition or the fans. The best example of that is what they are going to do to the WCHA.

Ankf00
11-30-10, 06:22 PM
I'd think if the people directly involved could make more money, they wouldn't have too hard of a time pulling it off. Would everyone make more money or just the super programs?

in the case of full-fledged 16 team playoffs (including every conf champion), the NCAA makes the money and distributes what it sees fit back to the member schools.

99% of the value of D1 football is driven by ~60 programs, and those ~60 programs receive ~85% of the postseason revenues and have virtually all of the control of the system that generates those revenues (aside from when Orrin Hatch gets bored and calls Senate hearings, which will no longer happen now that Utah is in the Pac-12, funny how that works).

now that 85% above is only in terms of total disbursement to the programs by the bowl system. the bowls themselves reap a massive percentage of the total postseason revenues, but that situation is preferable to the potential of the NCAA taking over and controlling revenues disbursements

Methanolandbrats
11-30-10, 07:49 PM
Why all the NCAA hate? Without them college athletes would not even attend class and booster club cash would run sports programs.

dando
12-01-10, 02:43 PM
Why all the NCAA hate?

Hypocrisy and stupidity, such as cases like this:


Auburn quarterback Cam Newton is eligible to play in the SEC title game this weekend, even though the NCAA says his father broke rules by shopping his son to another school.

The NCAA released its finding in a statement Wednesday. The college sports governing body had concluded on Monday that a violation of Newton's amateur status had occurred. Auburn declared Newton ineligible on Tuesday and requested his eligibility be reinstated.

Newton has been cleared to compete without conditions.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788

:shakehead :saywhat:

-Kevin

Methanolandbrats
12-01-10, 03:00 PM
Hypocrisy and stupidity, such as cases like this:


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788

:shakehead :saywhat:

-Kevin
What would work better? I'm familiar with how things work at one school and they have full-time people employed to steer booster club cash the right way and ride herd on the academic eligibility of the players. Without NCAA rules, all the athletic majors would be made up and all the players would have cars, cash and anything else they wanted. College athletics would belong to the highest bidder.

chop456
12-01-10, 03:10 PM
Notre Dame should be banned from the NCAA until all their athletic teams compete in the same conference or are all independent.

dando
12-01-10, 03:15 PM
What would work better? I'm familiar with how things work at one school and they have full-time people employed to steer booster club cash the right way and ride herd on the academic eligibility of the players. Without NCAA rules, all the athletic majors would be made up and all the players would have cars, cash and anything else they wanted. College athletics would belong to the highest bidder.

On the radio this afternoon, they were going over several of the most recent incidents where players were ruled ineligible and/or suspended...one kid sat a game for accepting a golf cart ride across campus. AJ Green (WR, Georgia) sat 6 games this season for selling a jersey on eBay for $1K. T.Smith sat 2 games in 2004 and 2005 for accepting $500. And of course there's the whole Reggie Bush saga that took years to unravel. Keep in mind that it was Bush's family that received the majority of the bennies in that case. In Newton's case, the shopping by the father was reported back in January, and is just now being investigated. :shakehead And yes, all schools have compliance officers, but they obviously can't supervise hundreds of kids.

-Kevin

Napoleon
12-02-10, 06:38 AM
In other news... Oh Goody. TCU joins the Big East. Horny Frogs on the banks of the Raritan!

For a completely wonky take on that. (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/will-the-big-east-and-t-c-u-live-happily-ever-after/)

Andrew Longman
12-02-10, 12:16 PM
For a completely wonky take on that. (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/will-the-big-east-and-t-c-u-live-happily-ever-after/)wonky is right.

From the other side of the Hudson, it seems RU AD was the primary force to get this deal done and done now. I guess it makes sense but only because everything sucks. http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2010/11/politi_rutgers_pernetti_led_th.html

Ankf00
12-02-10, 07:08 PM
Still, these are all crap football with no histories. Makes for a crap conference picking up BCS scraps.

The Big East was a shotgun marriage from its inception, this is par for the course

Ankf00
12-02-10, 07:12 PM
What would work better? I'm familiar with how things work at one school and they have full-time people employed to steer booster club cash the right way and ride herd on the academic eligibility of the players. Without NCAA rules, all the athletic majors would be made up and all the players would have cars, cash and anything else they wanted. College athletics would belong to the highest bidder.

how many years did it take to crack down on reggie bush? cam newton's eligible even tho it's admitted his father shopped him, yet the Kentucky basketball player is indefinitely ineligible b/c his parents in turkey declined a Fenerbace contract and instead accepted 33K from them for his past practices thinking that was w/in NCAA bylaws.

there's a rumour that UT & ND gave the NCAA an ultimatum in the midst of realignmentgate, start investigating and taking care of what you're supposed to or we'll blow up the system by joining big ten & pac 16 and render you worthless. meanwhile we have a LB who hasn't been able to play for over a year b/c NCAA can't decide if a couple of his HS courses should count or not, but Cam Newton was actively shopped for 180K an still plays.

Don Quixote
12-02-10, 07:30 PM
I bet the fbi has the goods on the guy but won't share it with the ncaa, yet.

Methanolandbrats
12-02-10, 08:56 PM
how many years did it take to crack down on reggie bush? cam newton's eligible even tho it's admitted his father shopped him, yet the Kentucky basketball player is indefinitely ineligible b/c his parents in turkey declined a Fenerbace contract and instead accepted 33K from them for his past practices thinking that was w/in NCAA bylaws.

there's a rumour that UT & ND gave the NCAA an ultimatum in the midst of realignmentgate, start investigating and taking care of what you're supposed to or we'll blow up the system by joining big ten & pac 16 and render you worthless. meanwhile we have a LB who hasn't been able to play for over a year b/c NCAA can't decide if a couple of his HS courses should count or not, but Cam Newton was actively shopped for 180K an still plays.

It's easy to bitch about stuff, but the question still stands, what would work better? Conferences policing themselves? :rofl: Schools policing themselves? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Andrew Longman
12-02-10, 11:08 PM
what would work better? Just have the nfl bankroll NCAA football as a farm system.

Ankf00
12-04-10, 03:14 PM
It's easy to bitch about stuff, but the question still stands, what would work better? Conferences policing themselves? :rofl: Schools policing themselves? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

if it goes semi-pro, so be it, at least its equal footing

racermike
12-04-10, 07:53 PM
Its time for the Oregon Ducks to head to Glendale!!!!!

National Championship anyone?

http://imgur.com/mkFIh.png

racermike
12-04-10, 08:23 PM
This is an epic rant from an Alabama fan (NSFW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5U7_sRtQN8&feature=player_embedded

WickerBill
12-06-10, 03:24 PM
Greg Davis no longer a Longhorn....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/12/06/texas-staff-shakeup.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

Andrew Longman
12-06-10, 05:02 PM
This is an epic rant from an Alabama fan (NSFW)

From the comments:
I wear my Auburn shirt because I went to Auburn. You wear that Alabama shirt because you went to Wal-Mart.Where he no doubt bought his 30 pack of Natural Light. At least he probably doesn't have the student loan to pay back for that wundaful edumcayshun
I am from the state of Alabama and I am spreading the genetic gene pool out there...:D:shakehead

Ankf00
12-08-10, 04:33 PM
auburn pulls in more SEC TV money per year than they do federal research grants

cameraman
12-08-10, 07:25 PM
auburn pulls in more SEC TV money per year than they do federal research grants

Given current funding levels that is not a very high standard to meet.

devilmaster
12-10-10, 09:15 PM
Go Navy!
http://www.sportsapparelsuperstore.com/images/Navy%20Midshipmen.gif

Ankf00
12-12-10, 05:18 AM
http://oi55.tinypic.com/2qal9aw.jpg


If Will takes Major I'm jihading Gainesville

Insomniac
12-14-10, 01:27 PM
:eek: No one has said anything about Legends and Leaders yet.

So bad that it was self-explanatory how stupid it is?

dando
12-14-10, 01:30 PM
:eek: No one has said anything about Legends and Leaders yet.

So bad that it was self-explanatory how stupid it is?

F Jim Delaney. :flame: :saywhat: 'nuff said.

-Kevin

devilmaster
12-14-10, 04:12 PM
not-only the-division names, but-have you-seen all-the new-trophies as-well?

Championship Game Trophies
Stagg-Paterno Championship Trophy
Grange-Griffin Championship Game MVP
Postgraduate Awards
Ford-Kinnick Leadership Award
Dungy-Thompson Humanitarian Award
Annual Awards/Trophies
Graham-George Offensive Player of the Year
Nagurski-Woodson Defensive Player of the Year
Hayes-Schembechler Coach of the Year
Thompson-Randle El Freshman of the Year
Rimington-Pace Offensive Lineman of the Year
Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year
Ameche-Dayne Running Back of the Year
Tatum-Woodson Defensive Back of the Year
Butkus-Fitzgerald Linebacker of the Year
Richter-Howard Receiver of the Year
Kwalick-Clark Tight End of the Year
Bakken-Andersen Kicker of the Year
Eddleman-Fields Punter of the Year

Its-****ing rediculous-I tell-you. :irked:-:mad:

dando
12-14-10, 04:31 PM
not-only the-division names, but-have you-seen all-the new-trophies as-well?

The hyphenation awards. Brilliant!

:irked: :tony: <== now known as the F. Jim Delaney gomer

-Kevin

Insomniac
12-14-10, 06:42 PM
not-only the-division names, but-have you-seen all-the new-trophies as-well?

Championship Game Trophies
Stagg-Paterno Championship Trophy
Grange-Griffin Championship Game MVP
Postgraduate Awards
Ford-Kinnick Leadership Award
Dungy-Thompson Humanitarian Award
Annual Awards/Trophies
Graham-George Offensive Player of the Year
Nagurski-Woodson Defensive Player of the Year
Hayes-Schembechler Coach of the Year
Thompson-Randle El Freshman of the Year
Rimington-Pace Offensive Lineman of the Year
Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year
Ameche-Dayne Running Back of the Year
Tatum-Woodson Defensive Back of the Year
Butkus-Fitzgerald Linebacker of the Year
Richter-Howard Receiver of the Year
Kwalick-Clark Tight End of the Year
Bakken-Andersen Kicker of the Year
Eddleman-Fields Punter of the Year

Its-****ing rediculous-I tell-you. :irked:-:mad:

Are those Leader-Legend awards?

Tim
12-14-10, 10:31 PM
Bong-Hit Iowa offensive mvp trophy.

dando
12-16-10, 10:34 AM
Ouch. A return trip to the Rose Bowl for Oregon appears unlikely.

http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/cfootballnews.asp?articleID=277048



Of course they've got five months or so to decide that he's learned his lesson and bring him back for the opener. :gomer:

I thought I'd bring the post that started this thread back...just sayin'. :gomer:

(don't quit your day job, bossman) :p ;)

-Kevin