PDA

View Full Version : The Foyt Futility Watch 2010 -- They're Back and More Pathetic Than Ever



pchall
02-22-10, 10:14 PM
Yes, our favorite All American All Oval Indycar Experiment is back for another season of Futility with fewer ovals and fewer Americans than ever.
I've nominated our Futility Regulars for 2010. We'll see whose lack of merit puts them on the Futility Resevere list on a race by race basis. Your nominations are welcome.

IZOD IndyCar Series
Open Test
Feb. 24-25, 2010
Barber Motorsports Park


2 Raphael Matos de Ferran Luczo Dragon Racing
3 Helio Castroneves Team Penske
5 Takuma Sato (R) KV Racing Technology
6 Ryan Briscoe Team Penske
7 Danica Patrick Andretti Autospor 1
8 E.J. Viso KV Racing Technology
9 Scott Dixon Target Chip Ganassi Racing
10 Dario Franchitti Target Chip Ganassi Racing
11 Tony Kanaan Andretti Autosport 2
12 Will Power Verizon Team Penske
14 Vitor Meira A.J. Foyt Enterprises
22 Justin Wilson Dreyer & Reinbold Racing
24 Mike Conway Dreyer & Reinbold Racing
26 Marco Andretti Andretti Autosport 3
32 TBA KV Racing Technology
34 TBA Conquest Racing
37 Ryan Hunter-Reay Andretti Autosport 4
67 Sarah Fisher Sarah Fisher Racing
67 Jay Howard (R) Sarah Fisher Racing
77 Alex Tagliani FAZZT Racing Team
78 TBA HVM Racing
06 Hideki Mutoh Hass/Lannigan Racing

Twenty-two cars*

* :gomer: math counts 1 entry shared by two drivers over the season as 2 cars.

Methanolandbrats
02-22-10, 10:18 PM
I'm in first with a 2010 WGAF :gomer:

doppelganger
02-22-10, 10:23 PM
Oh no, is it this time already! There is still snow on the ground.

dando
02-22-10, 10:27 PM
That TBA guy is sure popular. :gomer: No Rahole? No Milkers? No Visions!?! Shocking I tell ya, shocking! March 14 just can't get here soon enough. :tony:

-Kevin

Methanolandbrats
02-22-10, 10:31 PM
Nothing says eggcitement like that grid.

Tim
02-22-10, 11:04 PM
It's sad to see that the Newman name has been removed from Haas/Lanigan.

Don Quixote
02-22-10, 11:18 PM
The gomers must be thrilled with the all American nature of this grid.

Methanolandbrats
02-22-10, 11:20 PM
The gomers must be thrilled with the all American nature of this grid.
The grid kinda looks like Britain vs South America again :D

Michaelhatesfans
02-23-10, 12:09 AM
I'm in first with a 2010 WGAF :gomer:

Second!

pchall
02-23-10, 12:18 AM
It's sad to see that the Newman name has been removed from Haas/Lanigan.

That was my edit. My apologies for being misleading.

Indy
02-23-10, 12:41 AM
I vote for the FAZZT team. I like the added dimension of "corrupt team principle partnered with clueless driver futility."

Chief
02-23-10, 01:09 AM
Peter...you'r math is screwed up. I count 16-18. :p

pchall
02-23-10, 01:52 AM
Peter...you'r math is screwed up. I count 16-18. :p

22 is the number on the IRL Open Test .pdf. It's :gomer: math!

pchall
02-23-10, 01:54 AM
I vote for the FAZZT team. I like the added dimension of "corrupt team principle partnered with clueless driver futility."

Good observation. They'll get serious consideration as the 4th Futility car for Brazil.

opinionated ow
02-23-10, 04:22 AM
No Simona. I don't know whether to :D that she's not in a crapwagon or :cry: that it probably means nothing lined up for her.

pchall
02-23-10, 10:29 AM
No Simona. I don't know whether to :D that she's not in a crapwagon or :cry: that it probably means nothing lined up for her.

May the great DAWG help me, but I actually checked for news at Twitter. This may ruin your morning and turn your coffee to acid in your stomach.


# Ready to go to barber motorsports park!!!!
about 1 hours ago via web

Of course, if she did manage to get into a crapwagon it would be nice to see her humiliate the Princess Permapout on track. What a waste that she hasn't found something better to do in motorsports with her talent and aspirations. She was linked with HVM for a test last December but I never ran into anything more than the mention that she was supposed to run at Sebring for them.

opinionated ow
02-23-10, 10:37 AM
May the great DAWG help me, but I actually checked for news at Twitter. This may ruin your morning and turn your coffee to acid in your stomach.



Of course, if she did manage to get into a crapwagon it would be nice to see her humiliate the Princess Permapout on track. What a waste that she hasn't found something better to do in motorsports with her talent and aspirations. She was linked with HVM for a test last December but I never ran into anything more than the mention that she was supposed to run at Sebring for them.

I know she ran in Sebring, was supposed to be a trial and they were so impressed they had her running 2010 setups. And I just saw that on twitter myself or maybe it was facebook. I'm really not sure whether to :D or :cry:

TKGAngel
02-23-10, 11:13 AM
PT says someone with "Honda and Hugo" bucks might be in a 3rd car at Dryer & Reinbold. Not that he's bitter or anything.

NismoZ
02-23-10, 11:30 AM
Simona to Lights...read it SOMEwhere....or was she on her way to Europe? Seem to recall she mentioned that also.

Steve99
02-23-10, 12:36 PM
That TBA guy is sure popular. :gomer:
And yet pchall still misspelled his name. It's supposed to be WGAF.

Andrew Longman
02-23-10, 01:18 PM
No Coyne?

No G. Rahal?

No Milka? :gomer:

G.
02-23-10, 01:52 PM
No Milka? :gomer:

She's busy translating important marine biology documents for Venezuelan Navy.

Methanolandbrats
02-23-10, 02:01 PM
No little Rahole really points out how bad things are.

NismoZ
02-23-10, 02:46 PM
No Coyne? That's because he's working on that series with Honda powered DP01s. Must be a turbo, too, didn't see an airbox.:gomer:

NismoZ
02-23-10, 03:19 PM
OK, what's goin' on ...Jean-Karl Vernay joining Philip Major and Pippa Mann at Sam Schmidt...Conquest returns with Mario Romancini and Sebastian Saavedra in with Stefan Wilson at Herta's...Poor old Graham Rahal wouldn't have a chance against THIS top-flight group!

Steve99
02-23-10, 03:27 PM
OK, what's goin' on ...Jean-Karl Vernay joining Philip Major and Pippa Mann at Sam Schmidt...Conquest returns with Mario Romancini and Sebastian Saavedra in with Stefan Wilson at Herta's...Poor old Graham Rahal wouldn't have a chance against THIS top-flight group!

Who? Did you switch to discussing 2012 Olympic gymnasts by any chance?

:)

cameraman
02-23-10, 04:25 PM
OK, what's goin' on ...Jean-Karl Vernay joining Philip Major and Pippa Mann at Sam Schmidt...

Jeebus....

Vernay finally took his first win in the Euroseries, at the 42nd attempt, winning the sprint race at Hockenheim.

Philip Major completed the full season with 3 top-10 finishes and finished 18th in points, last among Championship Class participants that competed in the full schedule.

Pippa Mann signed to drive for Panther Racing in the 2009 Firestone Indy Lights series, during her debut season with Panther Racing, Mann scored a string of top 15 finishes, including three top ten results.

Methanolandbrats
02-23-10, 04:53 PM
Closing in on an entire grid of ride buyers. :yuck:Might as well rename the series Formula Tool.

Sean Malone
02-23-10, 05:05 PM
Jeebus....

Vernay finally took his first win in the Euroseries, at the 42nd attempt, winning the sprint race at Hockenheim.

Philip Major completed the full season with 3 top-10 finishes and finished 18th in points, last among Championship Class participants that competed in the full schedule.

Pippa Mann signed to drive for Panther Racing in the 2009 Firestone Indy Lights series, during her debut season with Panther Racing, Mann scored a string of top 15 finishes, including three top ten results.

I'm on the edge of my seat with anticipation!!!

Chief
02-23-10, 05:37 PM
Closing in on an entire grid of ride buyers. :yuck:Might as well rename the series Formula Tool.
That's Tony's VISION...all of them.

opinionated ow
02-23-10, 05:44 PM
Simona to Lights...read it SOMEwhere....or was she on her way to Europe? Seem to recall she mentioned that also.

from facebook just now (isn't that nice, another cute racing girl on my friends list :p) "Can t wait to be back in the team stargate worlds/ HVM indycar tomorrow!!!"

NismoZ
02-23-10, 07:22 PM
THAT's what it was! I posted that here awhile back. SOMEwhere!:D (didn't I?)...yep, back on 12/11, "Danica Out To NASCRAP"

NismoZ
02-23-10, 07:46 PM
Simona at Autobahn last July.
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae161/dlh4646/100_2886.jpg

NismoZ
02-23-10, 07:56 PM
First practice, Friday
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae161/dlh4646/100_2791.jpg

pchall
02-23-10, 08:03 PM
So, who is paying Roger to run in the IRL this year? There's barely enough signage in the new (sans Marlboro) livery to trailer them back and forth across the country for the season.

http://i46.tinypic.com/241tr9y.jpg

Sean Malone
02-23-10, 08:30 PM
First practice, Friday
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae161/dlh4646/100_2791.jpg

Wow. She looks fast. :gomer:

NismoZ
02-23-10, 08:44 PM
C'mon...paddock photos...less likely to blur!:)

pchall
02-23-10, 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by NismoZ
OK, what's goin' on ...Jean-Karl Vernay joining Philip Major and Pippa Mann at Sam Schmidt...Conquest returns with Mario Romancini and Sebastian Saavedra in with Stefan Wilson at Herta's...

Looks like a fire sale on Indy Lights seats just to get some cars on the grid. I wonder if a field filler Dallara ride for the Indy 500 was tossed in as an inducement to sign?

I hope the :gomer: s at TF are all puking their tenderloins over the lack of American dirt track heroes being signed for 2010 for both the Lights series and the IRL. :p

oddlycalm
02-23-10, 10:38 PM
Closing in on an entire grid of ride buyers. :yuck:Might as well rename the series Formula Tool.

That works. How about translating that into derf; Formala Kwalty Tewl...?

oc

Steve99
02-24-10, 03:13 PM
Well, obviously they're being sponsored by Team Penske. I wonder what sort of product they're trying to promote. ;)

So, who is paying Roger to run in the IRL this year? There's barely enough signage in the new (sans Marlboro) livery to trailer them back and forth across the country for the season.

http://i46.tinypic.com/241tr9y.jpg

Easy
02-24-10, 03:51 PM
So is Phillip Morris still sending Penske money for their direct mail promotion leveraging and the clearly Marlboro branded livery just had to change finally or is the tobacco money all dried up for real?

Removing each others names from their respective web sites isn't conclusive of anything other than the Master Settlement's gradually increased restrictions of overt tobacco marketing.

Chief
02-24-10, 04:15 PM
We'll find out....no free tix and no red pointy hats. And empty grandstands.

Easy
02-24-10, 04:21 PM
There has been better coverage of the ALMS winter test at Sebring by far than whatever the hell is going on at Barber. The only photos I can find so far are from Twitpic.

Is the IRL's promotional strategy to block all info from the general public (ie. the 1500 people left who actually seek IndyCar news)? Actually that wouldn't be surprising if Barnhart has his say.

pchall
02-24-10, 04:29 PM
Mazak on the tip fences. That is at least a clue where Penske is getting his milling machines from these days -- Japan. Are there any American machine tool companies left?

oddlycalm
02-24-10, 04:36 PM
So is Phillip Morris still sending Penske money for their direct mail promotion leveraging and the clearly Marlboro branded livery just had to change finally or is the tobacco money all dried up for real?

All gone.

Penske loses Marlboro livery (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81678)


Marlboro/Philip Morris will no longer be sponsoring the #3 and #6 cars of Helio Castroneves and Ryan Briscoe

oc

Fio1
02-24-10, 04:56 PM
Are you telling me that my 'Marlboro Invited Guest' past from 1993 will not work this year at Long Beach? :thumdown:

Someone should start a post listing the major sponsors that left Indy Car racing since 1996....I'm sure it's more then all the sponsors in Nascab today. Thanks Tony G, you w*****r!:yuck:

oddlycalm
02-24-10, 05:31 PM
Mazak on the tip fences. That is at least a clue where Penske is getting his milling machines from these days -- Japan. Are there any American machine tool companies left?
Haas is 100% US content. Haas makes everything down to the fasteners at their highly automated mega factory in Oxnard, CA. Hardinge is still US owned and bought Swiss builders Kellenberger and Tschudin. Gleason is US owned and bought Swiss gear machine builders Pfauter-Maag and Hurth along the way.

Fadal and Cincinnati are now owned by European machine tool conglomerate MAG. They still have plants in the US. Landis is now owned by the French company Fives Group.

oc

Methanolandbrats
02-24-10, 06:44 PM
Since there is prize money in the IRL, can Penske write the whole venture off as advertising? Even if he can, he'll get tired of that in a hurry.

DagoFast
02-24-10, 07:13 PM
Haas is 100% US content. Haas makes everything down to the fasteners at their highly automated mega factory in Oxnard, CA.

oc

I'll give props to Haas, but 100% is doubtful. Are they making their own ballscrews and linear guides now? Because those used to be sourced from either NSK or THK and both were made in Japan. Same with the Yaskawa servo motors. And a fair number of their castings for the larger machines were from Mexico. Tons of components were sourced from around the globe. Monitors from Taiwan or China. Bijur lube pumps from Japan.

The other dirty little secret is Haas builds machines in overseas factories too.

Sean Malone
02-24-10, 08:25 PM
I'll give props to Haas, but 100% is doubtful. Are they making their own ballscrews and linear guides now? Because those used to be sourced from either NSK or THK and both were made in Japan. Same with the Yaskawa servo motors. And a fair number of their castings for the larger machines were from Mexico. Tons of components were sourced from around the globe. Monitors from Taiwan or China. Bijur lube pumps from Japan.

The other dirty little secret is Haas builds machines in overseas factories too.

Bring back front engine Offys'!!!!!:gomer:

pchall
02-24-10, 09:30 PM
Barber OT - IndyCar Barber Motorsports Park
Combined Results of Practice
2.3 mile(s)
IZOD IndyCar Series February 24, 2010

1 Briscoe, Ryan 01:10.5052 117.438

2 Castroneves, Helio 01:10.7146 117.090

3 Wilson, Justin 01:10.7397 117.049

4 Power, Will 01:10.7637 117.009

5 Dixon, Scott 01:10.8927 116.796

6 Viso, EJ 01:10.9186 116.754

7 Sato, Takuma (R) 01:11.1138 116.433

8 Kanaan, Tony 01:11.1433 116.385

9 Franchitti, Dario 01:11.1825 116.321

10 Mutoh, Hideki 01:11.2212 116.258

11 Andretti, Marco 01:11.3557 116.038

12 Romancini, Mario (R) 01:11.4567 115.874

13 Rossiter, James (R) 01:11.7759 115.359

14 Meira, Vitor 01:11.9171 115.133

15 Matos, Raphael 01:11.9924 115.012

16 Hunter-Reay, Ryan 01:12.1369 114.782

17 Conway, Mike 01:12.1543 114.754

18 Patrick, Danica 01:12.5369 114.149

19 de Silvestro, Simona (R) 01:12.8124 113.717

NismoZ
02-24-10, 11:10 PM
Sunuva...1st time together on the same track, only the 2nd time in an Indy car and only .3 behind the bestest Indy driver EVER!:thumbup:

Steve99
02-25-10, 02:44 PM
Is the IRL's promotional strategy to block all info from the general public
I certainly hope so.

pchall
02-25-10, 05:20 PM
Sunuva...1st time together on the same track, only the 2nd time in an Indy car and only .3 behind the bestest Indy driver EVER!:thumbup:

Thursday 4:18pm. Snuck a peek and there's only a .08 separation during testing today.... don't know whether to laugh or cry.

High Sided
02-25-10, 07:28 PM
gotta admit i like the 3rd kv entry colors...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/izodindycar/4385201265/in/set-72157623502896898/

Indy
02-25-10, 07:38 PM
gotta admit i like the 3rd kv entry colors...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/izodindycar/4385201265/in/set-72157623502896898/

Wow, that looks so good I almost didn't notice the piece of crap underneath the paint.

Methanolandbrats
02-25-10, 07:38 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4385958800_a832b43f7e.jpg :yuck:

Elmo T
02-25-10, 08:29 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4385958800_a832b43f7e.jpg :yuck:


Can't you feel the excitement? :gomer:

NismoZ
02-25-10, 08:49 PM
Geez...and PT in a 4th KV entry at select races. South America I'd guess.:gomer:

pchall
02-25-10, 09:35 PM
Barber OT - IndyCar Barber Motorsports Park
Results of Session
Practice 3
2.3 mile(s)
IZOD IndyCar Series
February 25, 2010


1 12 Power, Will 01:09.8724 118.502

2 3 Castroneves, Helio 01:10.0084 118.272

3 6 Briscoe, Ryan 01:10.0459 118.208

4 9 Dixon, Scott 01:10.0594 118.185

5 22 Wilson, Justin 01:10.0869 118.139

6 5 Sato, Takuma (R) 01:10.2070 117.937

7 24 Conway, Mike 01:10.2497 117.865

8 26 Andretti, Marco 01:10.3956 117.621

9 06 Mutoh, Hideki 01:10.4451 117.538

10 34 Romancini, Mario (R) 01:10.5487 117.366

11 32 Rossiter, James (R) 01:10.5700 117.330

12 11 Kanaan, Tony 01:10.6704 117.164

13 14 Meira, Vitor 01:10.6963 117.121

14 37 Hunter-Reay, Ryan 01:10.7123 117.094

15 8 Viso, EJ 01:11.3140 116.106

16 78 de Silvestro, Simona (R) 01:11.3351 116.072 :)

17 7 Patrick, Danica 01:11.5112 115.786 :rofl:

18 2 Matos, Raphael 01:11.5484 115.726

19 10 Franchitti, Dario 01:12.9810 113.454

20 67 Howard, Jay (R) 01:14.1883 111.608

pchall
02-26-10, 10:39 AM
gotta admit i like the 3rd kv entry colors...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/izodindycar/4385201265/in/set-72157623502896898/

So, is the sponsorship from the region in Spain or a large marine and industrial services company in Hawaii?

NismoZ
02-26-10, 11:27 AM
YESSS! And...Ana Beatriz in a 3rd Dreyer & Reinbold entry. (SA race) Lets see if she's faster than Princess too.

SteveH
02-26-10, 11:31 AM
But, but, but good ol' Darrell Waltrip said at the beginning of the ARCA race that Danica's NASCAR experience would make her better in the IRL. He even pointed at Dario's championship last year as proof.

:boogity:

NismoZ
02-26-10, 11:40 AM
You serious? He actually said Dario's NASCAB experience translated into a League title? I guess Montoya ought to consider a return to F-1.

pchall
02-26-10, 12:20 PM
YESSS! And...Ana Beatriz in a 3rd Dreyer & Reinbold entry. (SA race) Lets see if she's faster than Princess too.

I wonder if she will get any proper seat time in a Dallara Dart before Sao Paolo?


You serious? He actually said Dario's NASCAB experience translated into a League title? I guess Montoya ought to consider a return to F-1.

Juan's a full fledged NASCAR driver now. According to the Cup savants that ought to qualify him for several retroactive WDCs.

Methanolandbrats
02-26-10, 01:03 PM
This years IRL grid has excellent cat fight potential :thumbup:

NismoZ
02-26-10, 01:59 PM
WDCs aside there was a time when I figured an all out 2-Ferrari match race between Montoya and Schumacher would decide who was the best of ALL of 'em. I'm certainly no F-1afile but I believed they were the obvious 1-2 at the time. (what season was it likely I had that thought anyway?) :gomer:

Don Quixote
02-26-10, 09:49 PM
This years IRL grid has excellent cat fight potential :thumbup: I like the way you think. A good catfight is the only thing to give them ratings over 0.2.

opinionated ow
02-27-10, 01:11 AM
I like the way you think. A good catfight is the only thing to give them ratings over 0.2.

Except that Sim is too classy for that

Methanolandbrats
02-27-10, 09:19 AM
Except that Sim is too classy for that
She won't start it, I wonder who will :D

NismoZ
02-27-10, 10:18 AM
Milkers HAS to be in there somewhere! "You, you...go to hell!":)

pchall
02-27-10, 02:19 PM
She sucked all through the Open Test, now she faces the NASCAR scribes.

Princess Permapout explains it all:


"Getting into the IndyCar again, getting comfortable with how fast they are and the acceleration and the downforce," she said. "Unfortunately, I didn't have a very good car, so I didn't feel very comfortable and that's why I didn't like it. There were times we made it better, and I was able to feel comfortable again, but that didn't last maybe one lap."

oddlycalm
02-27-10, 05:35 PM
Needs more killer whale.

oc

dando
02-27-10, 05:43 PM
Needs more killer whale.

oc

I was thinking Chinese Hummer. :gomer:

-Kevin

Wally
02-28-10, 07:22 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4385958800_a832b43f7e.jpg :yuck:

Jeez, how many chins is mikey sporting these days? :laugh:

Tim
03-01-10, 12:15 AM
Who cares?

oddlycalm
03-01-10, 04:32 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4385958800_a832b43f7e.jpg :yuck:

Midpack Mike and his pet Toucan waiting for a clue....

oc