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pchall
09-06-08, 08:20 PM
Ol' AJ must have used his lead mallet trying to beat one of his famous qualifying set-ups into Tex Manning's suspension. Didn't work, though. I'd bet AJ is looking forward to the return of turbos so he can get a cheater pop-off valve from IMS/IRL again.

Qualifying Results

1. Ryan Briscoe Penske 1m 41.4190s 215.818mph
2. Scott Dixon Ganassi 1m 41.5435s 215.553mph
3. Danica Patrick AGR 1m 41.5456s 215.548mph
4. Helio Castroneves Penske 1m 41.6288s 215.372mph*
5. Tony Kanaan AGR 1m 41.6307s 215.368mph
6. Marco Andretti AGR 1m 41.7743s 215.064mph
7. Dan Wheldon Ganassi 1m 41.8201s 214.967mph
8. Tomas Scheckter Luczo Dragon 1m 41.8734s 214.855mph
9. Vitor Meira Panther 1m 41.9012s 214.796mph
10. Marty Roth Roth 1m 41.9023s 214.794mph :eek:
11. Will Power KVRT/Team Australia 1m 42.0027s 214.583mph
12. Hideki Mutoh AGR 1m 42.0687s 214.444mph
13. Oriol Servia KVRT 1m 42.0700s 214.441mph
14. Ed Carpenter Vision 1m 42.3809s 213.790mph
15. Graham Rahal NHLR 1m 42.5089s 213.523mph
16. AJ Foyt IV Vision 1m 42.5272s 213.485mph
17. Ryan Hunter-Reay Rahal Letterman 1m 42.5536s 213.430mph
18. Jaime Camara Conquest 1m 42.5596s 213.417mph
19. Sarah Fisher Fisher 1m 42.5730s 213.389mph
20. Alex Tagliani Conquest 1m 42.7883s 212.943mph
21. Milka Duno Dreyer & Reinbold 1m 42.8298s 212.857mph
22. Justin Wilson NHLR 1m 42.8798s 212.753mph
23. Buddy Rice Dreyer & Reinbold 1m 42.9140s 212.682mph
24. Tex Manning Foyt 1m 43.0477s 212.406mph
25. Franck Perera Foyt 1m 43.1841s 212.126mph
26. Bruno Junqueira Coyne 1m 43.2258s 212.040mph
27. Ernesto Viso HVM 1m 43.2472s 211.996mph
28. Mario Moraes Coyne 1m 43.5133s 211.451mph

* No time -- DQ'd for dropping below the white line while qualifying

as ripped from Crash.net


Castroneves' crime had been to duck the #3 Penske Dallara down below the white line on the backstretch, and Barnhart scratched his four-lap average of 215.372mph as a punishment, handing the Brazilian a massive task if he is to overhaul Dixon in the championship. Castroneves can win the title if he wins the race and Dixon finishes outside the top eleven, but the comeback witnessed over the past two races - where he sliced 48 points from the Kiwi's lead - could all have been in vain.

Methanolandbrats
09-06-08, 08:50 PM
The ****ing drama is so thick you can feel it.

Wheel-Nut
09-06-08, 10:26 PM
10. Marty Roth Roth 1m 41.9023s 214.794mph

Chicago is where he used to log many laps trying to get up to speed.

KaBoom21
09-07-08, 05:26 PM
THREE WIDE!!! :shakehead

pchall
09-07-08, 05:30 PM
Just tuned in for the curtain. Pathetic oval racing -- lap after lap of the cars stuck right next to each other because of downforce, drag, and the rev-limiter.

:shakehead

Will endure the next half hour just to wrap up The Foyt Futility Watch for 2008.

Well, the photo finish seemed to preclude a final run down of the field. All Dixon did at the end was hold his line at the bottom of the track and let drag and the rev-limit do its work. Seems as if having Briscoe right behind him gave Castro-Neves just enough of a push to win.

The Princess Permapout was running as high as 4th but got swallowed up and dropped to about 9th when the racing got earnest with about thirty laps to go. AGR pitted her out of sequence under green as usual but that didn't work out since the leaders pitted under yellow a few laps later. Wound up out of the top 10.

Complete Futility Wrap Up when the results come on-line.

trish
09-07-08, 05:53 PM
Helio beat Dixon according to the video.

No, I didn't watch the whole thing.

Looks like all the fans left.

pchall
09-07-08, 06:12 PM
Looks like all the fans left.

Looked like that each time I switched over from Bungledumb on CBS. You could tell the color of each of the sections when the camera angles were right. Another less than half full "sell out"?

pchall
09-07-08, 06:21 PM
PEAK Antifreeze And Motor Oil Indy 300
IRL Sep 7 - PEAK Antifreeze And Motor Oil Indy 300 Final

1. Helio Castroneves (3)
2. Scott Dixon (9)
3. Ryan Briscoe (6)
4. Tony Kanaan (11)
5. Will Power (8)
6. Dan Wheldon (10)
7. Darren Manning (14)
8. Marco Andretti (26)
9. Ryan Hunter-Reay (17)
10. Danica Patrick (7)
11. Justin Wilson (2)
12. Alex Tagliani (36)
13. A.J. Foyt IV (2)
14. Milka Duno (23)
15. Franck Perera (41)
16. Marty Roth (25)
17. Oriol Servia (5)
18. Jaime Camara (34)
19. Graham Rahal (6)
20. Bruno Junqueira (18)
21. Mario Moraes (19)
22. Hideki Mutoh (27)
23. E.J. Viso (33)
24. Sarah Fisher (67)
25. Buddy Rice (15)
26. Tomas Scheckter (12)
27. Vitor Meira (4)
28. Special Ed Carpenter (20)

Insomniac
09-07-08, 09:08 PM
I was curious who won the championship. Nothing on the front page of ESPN.com. I had to click into the IRL area of the site to see Dixon was the champion.

pchall
09-07-08, 09:40 PM
The Princess Permapout won't keep this story in her scrapbook. :laugh:


Milka Duno, one of three women in the 28-car field, led five laps, the first time she has been out front in an IndyCar race. She finished the season with more laps led than Danica Patrick, who led only four laps all season.

link (http://sports.yahoo.com/irl/news;_ylt=ApF4ELvVAd_cNtCSTxUfSufRv7YF?slug=ap-irl-notebook&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Don Quixote
09-07-08, 10:25 PM
Good one.
Milkers in **** equipment>Princess in an Andretti ride!
:laugh: :laugh:

Insomniac
09-07-08, 11:22 PM
In fairness to the princess, one of those 4 laps was the last lap of a race.

mexican
09-08-08, 12:29 AM
In fairness to the princess, one of those 4 laps was the last lap of a race.

so this means.... Milka victory in '09!!! yesss!!! :gomer:

Insomniac
09-08-08, 08:06 AM
so this means.... Milka victory in '09!!! yesss!!! :gomer:

I'm thinking 2010 when they are in desperate need of a track and Hugo Chavez comes a knockin'.

JLMannin
09-08-08, 01:11 PM
Fore was running in fifth or sixth most of the day and spun off of turn four on the last lap.

EJ Viso looked good until his crash - I think he had a tire go down, as he was slow the lap before he crashed.

I was there with my dad and son - I was astonished to see the size of the crowd. I was expecting 15,000 or less, but I think it was closer to 50,000 or so. I think the seating capacity is around 75,000, and I would say the stands were 2/3 full.

The only action in the first 70 laps was Helio, Viso, Fore, and Thomas S moving up the field as Marty Roth was moving backwards. No one could outrun anyone else as all were flat out all the time. Cars would lose two spots or so if they lifted, and pit stops shuffled the field.

It was the first open wheel race I had seen in person in about six years. It was better than I thought it would be, but no comparison to the pre-Forsythe/Kalkoven era of CART/Champcar.

If my dad goes next year, I'll go to watch the race with him, but I would not make the trip to see the race if my dad were not going. Family > Racing

pchall
09-08-08, 01:21 PM
The only action in the first 70 laps was Helio, Viso, Fore, and Thomas S moving up the field as Marty Roth was moving backwards. No one could outrun anyone else as all were flat out all the time. Cars would lose two spots or so if they lifted, and pit stops shuffled the field.


Even in an era of greatly reduced expectations "racing" like that sucks.

Wheel-Nut
09-08-08, 01:41 PM
. . .
I was there with my dad and son - . . . . .

How long does it take to get that dull drone sound out of your head?

JLMannin
09-08-08, 01:49 PM
How long does it take to get that dull drone sound out of your head?

Mere seconds. I wore ear-plugs.

I have three children. My capacity to selectively filter out the frequency of whining is quite impressive. I guess it's tunable to match the frequency of crapwagons.

JLMannin
09-08-08, 01:52 PM
Even in an era of greatly reduced expectations "racing" like that sucks.

I did not use the word racing.

To me, it was like seeing the movie "Shark Boy and Lava Girl". The movie sucked greatly, but yet it exceeded my expectations.

pchall
09-08-08, 07:25 PM
I'm thinking 2010 when they are in desperate need of a track and Hugo Chavez comes a knockin'.

Citgo presents the Indycar Series on The Streets of Caracas:

http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/tracks/caracas.jpg


This 9.93km track was used for the 1957 Venezuelan Grand Prix, a round of the World Sportscar Championship, although it had been used for two non-championship rounds before this, and a different variant had been used as early as 1953. The track consisted of a blast up and down the city boulevards, using ramps and overpasses for corners. The major drawback of the track was the stone bollards dotted around the track, which were frequently nudged. They eventually became dislodged and caused several accidents. Coupled with crowd control problems and a lack of organisation, the race was not repeated. The track was also known as the Los Proceres circuit.

Insomniac
09-08-08, 08:44 PM
Citgo presents the Indycar Series on The Streets of Caracas:

http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/tracks/caracas.jpg

:thumbup:

Steve99
09-09-08, 02:35 PM
Citgo presents the Indycar Series on The Streets of Caracas:

http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/tracks/caracas.jpg

This 9.93km track was used for the 1957 Venezuelan Grand Prix, a round of the World Sportscar Championship, although it had been used for two non-championship rounds before this, and a different variant had been used as early as 1953. The track consisted of a blast up and down the city boulevards, using ramps and overpasses for corners. The major drawback of the track was the stone bollards dotted around the track, which were frequently nudged. They eventually became dislodged and caused several accidents. Coupled with crowd control problems and a lack of organisation, the race was not repeated. The track was also known as the Los Proceres circuit.
That should work out pretty well. Ramps to help the crapwagons get airborne. They have no fans so crowd control won't be an issue this time. Wrap some SAFER barriers around those stone bollards and get the racer-tainment started!

Al Czervik
09-09-08, 10:05 PM
"The closest Danica Patrick came to the lead of the Peak Antifreeze Indy 300 was when Helio Castroneves zoomed past her on his way to victory at about the halfway point of Sunday's race at Chicagoland Speedway."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/motorracing/chi-080907-danica-patrick-indycar,0,4050944.story

:rofl:

Methanolandbrats
09-09-08, 10:50 PM
http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport/tracks/caracas.jpgWTF is that a picture of, Milker's IUD?

Opposite Lock
09-17-08, 06:58 PM
Helio beat Dixon according to the video.


Robin Miller's Mailbag from September 16 (http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/robin-millers-mailbag-for-september-16//P5/)


RM: The transponder on Dixon’s car was mounted in the wrong place, so that’s why he flashed on the screen as the winner.

Not that I care one way or another who won that dronefest, (or the Earl championship for that matter), but it seems to me that mounting the transponder in the wrong place in a spec car, presumably to gain an advantage, should draw at least a fine if not a disqualification.

pchall
09-17-08, 08:45 PM
Not that I care one way or another who won that dronefest, (or the Earl championship for that matter), but it seems to me that mounting the transponder in the wrong place in a spec car, presumably to gain an advantage, should draw at least a fine if not a disqualification.

How does something like that even get through tech?

Methanolandbrats
09-17-08, 09:15 PM
How does something like that even get through tech? The tech guys probably don't GAF either. It's a paycheck, get it over with and go home.

G.
09-18-08, 11:29 AM
Not that I care one way or another who won that dronefest, (or the Earl championship for that matter), but it seems to me that mounting the transponder in the wrong place in a spec car, presumably to gain an advantage, should draw at least a fine if not a disqualification.

I saw somewhere that the transponders are owned/controlled/installed by the Leeegue. Not the team's fault.

Steve99
09-18-08, 01:47 PM
Isn't this being touted as the closest finish ever? How do they know that if the transponders were mounted wrong? Spin, spin, spin.