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I saw they had women's underpants volleyball on again tonight. A puzzling, yet not entirely unappealing uniform choice.
I saw they had women's underpants volleyball on again tonight. A puzzling, yet not entirely unappealing uniform choice.
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
opinionated ow
08-19-08, 12:23 AM
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
It is only fair that if the women wear bikinis, the blokes wear budgie smugglers.
chop456
08-19-08, 01:18 AM
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
Because.
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
the aussies had full shirts on.
I had no idea trampoline was a sport. :laugh: They were pretty good at it though. :eek:
Bolt jogs through his 200M heat.
Edit:
From an AP story:
Just as she did four years ago, May-Treanor sprinkled some of her mom's ashes on the sand after the semifinal, saving another half-portion for a similar ceremony at the gold medal game.
"You can't leave home without her," May-Treanor said, tapping the plastic film canister she used to carry Barbara May's remains. "But she'll stay here."
That seems a touch bizarre to me.
opinionated ow
08-19-08, 06:54 AM
I had no idea trampoline was a sport. :laugh: They were pretty good at it though. :eek:
Bolt jogs through his 200M heat.
Introduced in Sydney. There are also three other internationally recognised forms of gymnastics which are not recognised in the Olympic Games-aerobics, acrobatics and cheerleading.
Methanolandbrats
08-19-08, 07:41 AM
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies. Simple, men have hairy asses and nobody wants to look at that.
TrueBrit
08-19-08, 09:42 AM
Introduced in Sydney. There are also three other internationally recognised forms of gymnastics which are not recognised in the Olympic Games-aerobics, acrobatics and cheerleading.
You forgot the fourth one...lying about your athlete's ages...;)
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
Funny, but I was just thinking the same thing about the Gymnastics. The men wear trousers and a singlet, but the women wear a one piece.
Beach volleyball, meh. But I have a new appreciation for indoor volleyball, thanks to the Polish womens team. :D
TKGAngel
08-19-08, 10:21 AM
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
I think it offsets the fact that us ladies get to oogle men's divers and the men's swimmers that wear half suits that stop one cm short of the end of the happy trail.
opinionated ow
08-19-08, 11:42 AM
Funny, but I was just thinking the same thing about the Gymnastics. The men wear trousers and a singlet, but the women wear a one piece.
Beach volleyball, meh. But I have a new appreciation for indoor volleyball, thanks to the Polish womens team. :D
I don't like Basketball, but I do like the Latvian girls...
http://view.break.com/157415
:gomer:
-Kevin
http://view.break.com/157415
:gomer:
-Kevin
Cycling was the best. :D
When did the serves in ping pong become full of psych-out moves? Guy from Brazil was serving from the side of the table, and the dude from Canada was serving with his shoulder. That would be a two drink penalty in most backyard games. ;)
When did the serves in ping pong become full of psych-out moves? Guy from Brazil was serving from the side of the table, and the dude from Canada was serving with his shoulder. That would be a two drink penalty in most backyard games. ;)
Blame Forrest Gump. :gomer:
-Kevin
SurfaceUnits
08-19-08, 02:37 PM
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
sounds like a question for the girls who choose that type of uniform.
SurfaceUnits
08-19-08, 02:46 PM
softball is being discontinued because nobody can hang with the US wemen.
baseball is being discontinued because US pro ball players can't pass the Olympic drug/steroid tests
SurfaceUnits
08-19-08, 02:50 PM
I think it offsets the fact that us ladies get to oogle men's divers and the men's swimmers that wear half suits that stop one cm short of the end of the happy trail.they don't like you that way :p well, some of them
TKGAngel
08-19-08, 02:55 PM
they don't like you that way :p well, some of them
Hee. I think we can agree that there's enough eye candy for both genders at these games. :)
sounds like a question for the girls who choose that type of uniform.
no, in this case, it's rabbit's fault. :D
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
I just figure because it's not volleyball, it's beach volleyball. Bikin's and beaches do go together. We can always start a petition to get the guys in some speedos. And to be fair, I 've noticed the guys don't always wear shirts.
My wife (an ex-volleyballer herself) wants to know why men can play Olympic-level volleyball in shorts and a t-shirt but women can't unless they strip to their undies.
Just tell her to shut up. ;)
Meanwhile, the US women's water polo team makes it to the finals with a nice win vs. Ozzie. :thumbup: I was sweating those last few minutes. :eek:
-Kevin
polo == ATHLETES
that is some strenuous and draining business
polo == ATHLETES
that is some strenuous and draining business
One of the talking heads last week mentioned that water polo swimmers can out swim Olympic 50m swimmers in the 50m. :eek:
-Kevin
cameraman
08-19-08, 05:52 PM
One of the talking heads last week mentioned that water polo swimmers can out swim Olympic 50m swimmers in the 50m. :eek:
-Kevin
Somehow I think they would be in the 50m if they could win the 50m.
Somehow I think they would be in the 50m if they could win the 50m.
Likely @ the cost of playing water polo? More specifically the head stated that a race was run b/w an Ozzie swimmer and a water polo player, and the water polo player won. Whether this translates universally is TBD. YMMV.
-Kevin
oddlycalm
08-19-08, 07:25 PM
One of the talking heads last week mentioned that water polo swimmers can out swim Olympic 50m swimmers in the 50m. :eek:
Kinda. They can out swim the best sprinters in a 15m race, not 50m. Massive short accelerations are required. I heard it when the commentator said that, but he either misspoke or doesn't know.
To me the real challenge of water polo was always the fact that the officials can't see what goes on under the water, so a lot goes on. Some underwater shots from the mens US vs Germany game showed glimpses of how brutal it is. The fact that the US team is beating these very experienced pro players says it all IMO. Scoring 7pts on the best net man in the game is unheard of and takes massive skill along with brutality. :laugh: :thumbup:
oc
Kinda. They can out swim the best sprinters in a 15m race, not 50m. Massive short accelerations are required. I heard it when the commentator said that, but he either misspoke or doesn't know.
Quite possible that I interpreted that differently with 8 adults and 5 kids running about....plus Yuengling and gin was being consumed in mass quantities (altho not @ ~10am...just Yuengling then). :thumbup: :)
-Kevin
I saw they had women's underpants volleyball on again tonight. A puzzling, yet not entirely unappealing uniform choice.
^ RaceGrrl posting as nrc? :D
May shed some light on the subject and explain why Russia invaded Georgia: ;)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25197962/
Watched a little bit of the semifinal between China's two teams last night.
What human rights violations? :gomer:
Methanolandbrats
08-19-08, 09:00 PM
..plus Yuengling and gin was being consumed in mass quantities (altho not @ ~10am...just Yuengling then). :thumbup: :)
-Kevin:eek: To mix those two and function the next day you are clearly a seasoned professional. :thumbup::)
SurfaceUnits
08-21-08, 09:45 AM
Warning: There may be no coherent posts for 48hrs after viewing this clip.
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Warning: There may be no coherent posts for 48hrs after viewing this clip.
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you know they got porn on the internet too nowadays.
SurfaceUnits
08-21-08, 10:10 AM
you know they got porn on the internet too nowadays.
1st incoherent post
1st incoherent post
not fair, most of mine are.
^ RaceGrrl posting as nrc? :D
I'm not complainin' just observin'. :)
SurfaceUnits
08-21-08, 12:23 PM
New Olympic (WA) sport hehehe
http://wbex.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104673&article=4129683
New Olympic (WA) sport hehehe
http://wbex.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104673&article=4129683
Funny. Not the story, but the link. That site is for a crappy little AM radio station in our home town. Which is funny because it has an ad for a crappy little roller skating rink (http://www.cavalierskatingrink.com/) in our home town. Which brings back some nice memories. :D
Interesting vid:
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coolhand
08-21-08, 10:10 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/IOC-orders-investigation-into-He-Kexin-s-age?urn=oly,102564
IOC Launching Formal investigation into He Kexin's age. There are State Run Meida news articles showing she is only 14. :shakehead
datachicane
08-21-08, 10:55 PM
New Olympic (WA) sport hehehe
http://wbex.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104673&article=4129683
I've been to that one. It's about two miles from the home of a good friend of mine. Coffee sucks.
The guy with the 2nd degree burns must not have liked it, either.
Interesting vid:
Fear the Nut! :D :thumbup:
O-H!
-Kevin
I've been to that one. It's about two miles from the home of a good friend of mine. Coffee sucks.
The guy with the 2nd degree burns must not have liked it, either.
Of course he'll sue them.
Michaelhatesfans
08-22-08, 10:46 AM
you know they got porn on the internet too nowadays.
Absolutely. I'm not into that "something for the imagination" crap. I'll take the miracle of free porn any day.
opinionated ow
08-22-08, 10:48 AM
Australia wins it's first male athletics gold since 1968, and first field event since 1948!
Both US Relay teams forget how to pass a baton. :thumdown:
Methanolandbrats
08-22-08, 11:13 AM
The USA women diver should have retired after Sydney. When she entered the water it looked like someone threw an engine block in the pool :(
Both US Relay teams forget how to pass a baton. :thumdown:
USA track & field has been a complete debacle. :irked:
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/trackandfield/news/story?id=3548036
-Kevin
coolhand
08-22-08, 10:13 PM
http://deadspin.com/5039673/how-will-8-gold-medals-help-michael-phelps-prodigious-coozing
"went to michigan the same time as michael phelps and stories of his douchiness towards girls seem to pop up with any mention of his name. apparently his freshman year, he was at one of the campus bars and when asked what he was majoring in, he flat out said, 'i'm here to major in *****...."
So why did he go to Ann Arbor? :laugh:
roommate was at big d1 swim program, concurs on the phelps douchiness
I hate Argies
Just order a pizza :rofl::gomer:
I just love Texas hate :)
See ya in South Africa :thumbup:
oddlycalm
08-23-08, 02:10 AM
http://deadspin.com/5039673/how-will-8-gold-medals-help-michael-phelps-prodigious-coozing
So why did he go to Ann Arbor? :laugh:
I'm guessing the coaching staff or he is in serious need of glasses.
oc
LOL :ANKF00:
needs more anchovies:D
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/08/23/bc.oly.soc.nigeria.argentina.ap/index.html?section=si_latest
opinionated ow
08-23-08, 04:44 AM
Both US Relay teams forget how to pass a baton. :thumdown:
If I am to be honest, I laughed my arse off. They were all so arrogant and full of their own importance yet couldn't back it up.
Cubar. :gomer:
S. Korea. :thumbup:
Adios baseball. :(
In other news...
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/judo/news/story?id=3549903
A Cuban taekwondo athlete and his coach were banned for life after Angel Matos kicked the referee in the face following his bronze-medal match disqualification.
Cuban coach Leudis Gonzalez offered no apology for Matos' actions.
:saywhat: :shakehead
-Kevin
TKGAngel
08-23-08, 09:31 AM
The comments on that deadspin article were more entertaining than the article itself. But really, is it a big deal that a professional athlete is a douche and a couple of women short of being board certified in gynocology?
SurfaceUnits
08-23-08, 11:03 AM
Cubar. :gomer:
S. Korea. :thumbup:
Adios baseball. :(
In other news...
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/judo/news/story?id=3549903
:saywhat: :shakehead
-Kevin
"After all, the first rule in Taekwondo is you don't kick the referee in the head." :laugh:
The comments on that deadspin article were more entertaining than the article itself. But really, is it a big deal that a professional athlete is a douche and a couple of women short of being board certified in gynocology?
Yeah, but when it involves UM 'chicks'.... :gomer: ;)
-Kevin
Boxing is as dead as OW racing in the US. One US boxer of nine medaled (bronze). Apparently they are using a new computerized scoring system that is making a mockery of the matches. I watched a bit last night while Teddy Atlas and the punch-by-punch guy reviewed some of the more obvious mistakes that have been made. Ouch. :thumdown: Amazing considering boxing was one of the top Olympic sports as recent as the late-80s/early-90s. Hey, kinda sounds like US OW racing.... :saywhat:
-Kevin
extramundane
08-23-08, 12:07 PM
Yeah, but when it involves UM 'chicks'.... :gomer: ;)
-Kevin
Well...if that story in the deadspin comments was true and Phelps was getting to know the locals at JMU, I'd guess his senses of sight, hearing and smell aren't working to full capacity. I submit to you that Ann Arbor's a large step up from H'burg. :saywhat:
coolhand
08-23-08, 02:26 PM
Cubar. :gomer:
S. Korea. :thumbup:
Adios baseball. :(
In other news...
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/judo/news/story?id=3549903
:saywhat: :shakehead
-Kevin
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The video was taken down. So much for sportsmanship. He should have been arrested too. Even the coach has a bad attitude. Maybe Cuba should be banned from entering Taekwondo in future Olympics.
oddlycalm
08-23-08, 05:21 PM
He should have been arrested too. Even the coach has a bad attitude.
In any western country he probably would have been booked on assault charges and detained. China is much more concerned about national image than reality.
oc
Methanolandbrats
08-23-08, 07:56 PM
Well...if that story in the deadspin comments was true and Phelps was getting to know the locals at JMU, I'd guess his senses of sight, hearing and smell aren't working to full capacity. I submit to you that Ann Arbor's a large step up from H'burg. :saywhat: It would certainly explain why he can hold his breath for so long, cross training as a diver :)
Methanolandbrats
08-23-08, 08:42 PM
Men's Marathon :eek: x 100 Lead pack through 14 miles at suicidal pace.
Cubar. :gomer:
S. Korea. :thumbup:
Adios baseball. :(
X
-Kevin
They should get rid of basketball too.
opinionated ow
08-24-08, 04:51 AM
Boxing is as dead as OW racing in the US. One US boxer of nine medaled (bronze). Apparently they are using a new computerized scoring system that is making a mockery of the matches. I watched a bit last night while Teddy Atlas and the punch-by-punch guy reviewed some of the more obvious mistakes that have been made. Ouch. :thumdown: Amazing considering boxing was one of the top Olympic sports as recent as the late-80s/early-90s. Hey, kinda sounds like US OW racing.... :saywhat:
-Kevin
Do you want to explain that one please? The way that reads is America isn't dominating therefore it shouldn't be an Olympic sport and I am sure that isn't your intention,
The video was taken down. So much for sportsmanship. He should have been arrested too. Even the coach has a bad attitude. Maybe Cuba should be banned from entering Taekwondo in future Olympics.
Taekwondo might not be in future Olympics. Link (http://www.foxsports.com.au/beijing_olympics/story/0,27313,24232927-5016819,00.html)
Do you want to explain that one please? The way that reads is America isn't dominating therefore it shouldn't be an Olympic sport and I am sure that isn't your intention,
Boxing is dead period. Got that? Clear enough?
-Kevin
They should get rid of basketball too.
Sorry, but I don't get that. Most of the world plays hoops, and it's been an Olympic sport since '36 or so. Baseball not so much.
-Kevin
4x400 :thumbup: Especially the womens race. :cool:
I can't wait to get the games to London.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2603561/Led-Zeppelin-classic-too-racy-for-Olympics.html
Organisers of the London 2012 Games commissioned the band's guitarist Jimmy Page to record a new version of the song to be performed on top of a special red double-decker bus accompanied by Leona Lewis, winner of the ITV reality television show The X Factor, with David Beckham looking on.
But, according to London 2012 officials, Lewis - who grew up in east London close to the Olympic site - requested a change to the song's second verse because she was worried they would not make sense for a female singer.
In the original, recorded in 1969, frontman Robert Plant sings, "I'm gonna give you every inch of my love".
But in the version that will be sung tomorrow, however, Lewis changes the words to "every bit" of my love.
:saywhat:
-Kevin
Watching the closing.... (Shut up Europe GP is tape delayed here and starts in 40 minutes, and thats only on DTV.) There were 100,000 volunteers to put this show on, Whrre TF is any other country ever going to find that sort of workforce that wiill work for sweet FA? :eek:
Watching the closing.... (Shut up Europe GP is tape delayed here and starts in 40 minutes, and thats only on DTV.) There were 100,000 volunteers to put this show on, Whrre TF is any other country ever going to find that sort of workforce that wiill work for sweet FA? :eek:
India. :irked:
-Kevin
Methanolandbrats
08-24-08, 09:19 AM
If asked to "volunteer" in China, is'nt a bad idea to refuse? :gomer:
TKGAngel
08-24-08, 12:43 PM
Baseball not so much.
-Kevin
The IOC chief was quoted saying that baseball wouldn't seriously be considered for reinstatement to the games unless MLB decides to allow its players to participate. And MLB, unlike the NHL, isn't going to shut its season down for two weeks to let its athletes play.
Softball got bounced by association, unfortunately.
Castro supports athlete who kicked ref in the face.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/08/25/bc.cuba.castro.olympics.ap/index.html
:saywhat: :irked: :shakehead
**** Cubar. :thumbup:
-Kevin
opinionated ow
08-25-08, 10:21 PM
India. :irked:
-Kevin
Nope. Rich Indians work hard to earn money to support their families. Poor Indians work their arse off to survive.
Nope. Rich Indians work hard to earn money to support their families. Poor Indians work their arse off to survive.
Thanks for the 411. I've worked with Indians in Chennai and Bangalore for over 5 years now, I have also been to India, and have a dear friend who is a native Indian. The comment was more about the population size compared to China. India imports workers to do the menial jobs. They also scavenge like you wouldn't believe and tend to work for relatively low wages (although that trend is changing rapidly). There also won't be an Olympics in India in my lifetime. Bank on it.
-Kevin
opinionated ow
08-26-08, 01:01 AM
Thanks for the 411. I've worked with Indians in Chennai and Bangalore for over 5 years now, I have also been to India, and have a dear friend who is a native Indian. The comment was more about the population size compared to China. India imports workers to do the menial jobs. They also scavenge like you wouldn't believe and tend to work for relatively low wages (although that trend is changing rapidly). There also won't be an Olympics in India in my lifetime. Bank on it.
-Kevin
Unless you plan on karking it soon, I wouldn't bet on that. They have the 2010 Commonwealth Games in New Delhi. I would put money on it being a huge success and a follow up Olympic bid being accepted for sometime around 2020.
I am more than aware of how India is. I spent the last fair while working almost exclusively with Indians, many of whom have become good mates. They are remarkably honest about how it actually is.
Michaelhatesfans
08-26-08, 02:18 AM
There were 100,000 volunteers to put this show on, Whrre TF is any other country ever going to find that sort of workforce that wiill work for sweet FA? :eek:
The volunteers are one thing, an unlimited budget with a government that doesn't have to answer to anyone about the costs is another. No western nation is going to be able to match the show that China just put on. Nothing political or opinionated about that, just economic reality.
Michaelhatesfans
08-26-08, 11:10 AM
The volunteers are one thing, an unlimited budget with a government that doesn't have to answer to anyone about the costs is another.
Here's another thing you won't see in London. Firing a few hundred rounds of rockets into the clouds just to try and stop the rain...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080825/ts_afp/oly2008weather
TKGAngel
08-26-08, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the 411. I've worked with Indians in Chennai and Bangalore for over 5 years now, I have also been to India, and have a dear friend who is a native Indian. The comment was more about the population size compared to China. India imports workers to do the menial jobs. They also scavenge like you wouldn't believe and tend to work for relatively low wages (although that trend is changing rapidly). There also won't be an Olympics in India in my lifetime. Bank on it.
-Kevin
I agree with you that India is a long shot to host a Games. The IOC may not see it as "cosmopolitan" enough to be a host nation. No dig against India, as I'm sure its a lovely nation, but the IOC can sometimes think mainly about wine-ing and dining and commercial ops before considering the sports aspect.
Its also not yet a full sports power. Look at where the last Summer Games have been held - US ('96), Australia ('00), Greece ('04, but widely considered a make-good for '96) and now China. All of those nations (with the exception of Greece) can be considered sports powerhouses. Britain is on its way up. The countries under consideration for '16 are all powerhouses (Brazil, US, Spain). IIRC, India just won its first gold medal ever in Beijing.
All in all, I think they have a way to go before being successful at winning a bid for a Games.
TravelGal
08-26-08, 01:12 PM
Castro supports athlete who kicked ref in the face.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/olympics/2008/08/25/bc.cuba.castro.olympics.ap/index.html
:saywhat: :irked: :shakehead
**** Cubar. :thumbup:
-Kevin
I read that too and thought the old fart was being his usual lunatic self. I do not agree at ALL with assailing a judge......however.......I did watch one of the gold medal boxing matches where the opponent literally wrapped his arms around the Cuban and threw him to the mat on TWO different occasions. I don't know boxing but TravelGuy was screaming at the TV. Then the guy said the Cuban boxer bit him. The ref didn't check in any way, he just awareded two points. The Cuban lost the gold by one point. We stopped watching boxing after that. It stank out loud, the way it used to here in the US before it sank from sight.
I read that too and thought the old fart was being his usual lunatic self. I do not agree at ALL with assailing a judge......however.......I did watch one of the gold medal boxing matches where the opponent literally wrapped his arms around the Cuban and threw him to the mat on TWO different occasions. I don't know boxing but TravelGuy was screaming at the TV. Then the guy said the Cuban boxer bit him. The ref didn't check in any way, he just awareded two points. The Cuban lost the gold by one point. We stopped watching boxing after that. It stank out loud, the way it used to here in the US before it sank from sight.
The boxing scoring/officiating was just heinous. As noted in a previous post I tuned in Sat to see Teddy Atlas and the play-by-play guy rant for 15 minutes on how bad the new scoring system and officiating was. They should just do away with boxing in the Olympics if they can't get it right. :thumdown:
-Kevin
IIRC, India just won its first gold medal ever in Beijing.
first gold medal that wasn't for field hockey, India has plenty of those. I say the gold medalist should be given a sniper rifle & a post on the Line of Control. make use of the sharp shooting skills.
Unless you plan on karking it soon, I wouldn't bet on that. They have the 2010 Commonwealth Games in New Delhi. I would put money on it being a huge success and a follow up Olympic bid being accepted for sometime around 2020.
I am more than aware of how India is. I spent the last fair while working almost exclusively with Indians, many of whom have become good mates. They are remarkably honest about how it actually is.
Indians suck.
The video was taken down. So much for sportsmanship. He should have been arrested too. Even the coach has a bad attitude. Maybe Cuba should be banned from entering Taekwondo in future Olympics.
If you want to see it, before the NBC guys find it, it's linked at Opie and Anthony's terrestrial radio site, This is the "censored" site for the most part (http://www.923krock.com/pages/1420414.php#mon)
Still pics are actually better, since they are closeups.
TKGAngel
08-26-08, 06:29 PM
first gold medal that wasn't for field hockey, India has plenty of those. I say the gold medalist should be given a sniper rifle & a post on the Line of Control. make use of the sharp shooting skills.
That's what I get for listening to Blob Costas.
I believe that a few members of the US rifle team are US military sharpshooters.
opinionated ow
08-26-08, 09:00 PM
I agree with you that India is a long shot to host a Games. The IOC may not see it as "cosmopolitan" enough to be a host nation. No dig against India, as I'm sure its a lovely nation, but the IOC can sometimes think mainly about wine-ing and dining and commercial ops before considering the sports aspect.
Its also not yet a full sports power. Look at where the last Summer Games have been held - US ('96), Australia ('00), Greece ('04, but widely considered a make-good for '96) and now China. All of those nations (with the exception of Greece) can be considered sports powerhouses. Britain is on its way up. The countries under consideration for '16 are all powerhouses (Brazil, US, Spain). IIRC, India just won its first gold medal ever in Beijing.
All in all, I think they have a way to go before being successful at winning a bid for a Games.
Do you know how big an event the commonwealth games is?
stroker
08-26-08, 09:21 PM
Do you know how big an event the commonwealth games is?
We're Yanks. We don't care. We're too busy jerking Oz around with the Indy car race. All of us.
:p
We're Yanks. We don't care. We're too busy jerking Oz around with the Indy car race. All of us.
:p
The Canuckians care. :gomer:
extramundane
08-27-08, 09:06 AM
Do you know how big an event the commonwealth games is?
We've all watched it on YouTube and torrents. We're practically experts. :thumbup:
Do you know how big an event the commonwealth games is?
Do they have underpants vollyball?
TKGAngel
08-27-08, 09:29 AM
Do you know how big an event the commonwealth games is?
From what Wiki tells me, about 5,000 athletes from 53 countries. Compare that with the last Olympics which had 10,000 athletes plus assorted team, sponsor and corporate personnel.
opinionated ow
08-27-08, 10:40 AM
From what Wiki tells me, about 5,000 athletes from 53 countries. Compare that with the last Olympics which had 10,000 athletes plus assorted team, sponsor and corporate personnel.
My point is this, the Commonwealth Games are a huge event. Recent events contain about half the number of athletes, 40% of the countries (basically oceania, half of africa, various asian countries, the UK, caribbean, a couple of south americans and Canada-85 for 2010) and almost as many sports, events and spectators. It is an event not all that much smaller than the Olympics with the exception of the number of athletes. India will pull it off spectacularly (dare I say it, better than the Chinese did the Olympics) and as a result, there will be an Olympics probably in Bangalore or Mumbai by 2024.
Insomniac
08-27-08, 02:04 PM
My point is this, the Commonwealth Games are a huge event. Recent events contain about half the number of athletes, 40% of the countries (basically oceania, half of africa, various asian countries, the UK, caribbean, a couple of south americans and Canada-85 for 2010) and almost as many sports, events and spectators. It is an event not all that much smaller than the Olympics with the exception of the number of athletes. India will pull it off spectacularly (dare I say it, better than the Chinese did the Olympics) and as a result, there will be an Olympics probably in Bangalore or Mumbai by 2024.
But with no athletes? India had <60 athletes at the Olympics this year. That to me is the biggest impediment. Well, that and infrastructure.
TravelGal
08-27-08, 08:39 PM
My point is this, the Commonwealth Games are a huge event. Recent events contain about half the number of athletes, 40% of the countries (basically oceania, half of africa, various asian countries, the UK, caribbean, a couple of south americans and Canada-85 for 2010) and almost as many sports, events and spectators. It is an event not all that much smaller than the Olympics with the exception of the number of athletes. India will pull it off spectacularly (dare I say it, better than the Chinese did the Olympics) and as a result, there will be an Olympics probably in Bangalore or Mumbai by 2024.
I was with ya up until "better than the Chinese did the Olympics." I can't believe anyting other than another totalitarian government can pull that off.
Looks like you've quoted an event about 1/3 the size of the Olympics, which is not to say it is small. It is to say that events have number over which they become a different type of organizational problem. As a microcosm, anyone who has ever organized a meeting for 30, then 300, then 800 knows what I'm talking about. The entire character of the event and what is required changes dramatically. So it is, I am sure, with going from 5,000 to 15,000 athletes.
But with no athletes? India had <60 athletes at the Olympics this year. That to me is the biggest impediment. Well, that and infrastructure.
But don't forget that the home country gets an entry in every sport if they want it. At least the opening parade of nations would be impresive, if not the results.
I, for one, think it's a grand idea and would look forward to going back to India to see it. I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't people in the Indian government speaking about it right now. Once the Commonwealth Games are over, of course.
Insomniac
08-27-08, 10:49 PM
But don't forget that the home country gets an entry in every sport if they want it. At least the opening parade of nations would be impresive, if not the results.
I, for one, think it's a grand idea and would look forward to going back to India to see it. I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't people in the Indian government speaking about it right now. Once the Commonwealth Games are over, of course.
I thought about that, but what an embarrassment it would be to be at the bottom of the medal count when you're hosting the Olympics. It just does not seem to be a priority of the people to compete in Olympic events. I'm sure they're talking about it though. The amount of exposure that China has received would make it foolish for them not to try and get it. Of course, in the larger cities, you'd have similar air quality issues.
opinionated ow
08-27-08, 11:13 PM
I thought about that, but what an embarrassment it would be to be at the bottom of the medal count when you're hosting the Olympics. It just does not seem to be a priority of the people to compete in Olympic events. I'm sure they're talking about it though. The amount of exposure that China has received would make it foolish for them not to try and get it. Of course, in the larger cities, you'd have similar air quality issues.
*cough Greece cough*
*cough Spain cough*
*cough South Korea cough*
none of them exactly topped the medal tally when they hosted it in the last twenty years. It has absolutely nothing to do with the overall results. If it was, most countries wouldn't bother sending an athlete. There is more to the Olympic Games than just gold medal count
TravelGal
08-28-08, 01:22 AM
*cough Greece cough*
*cough Spain cough*
*cough South Korea cough*
none of them exactly topped the medal tally when they hosted it in the last twenty years. It has absolutely nothing to do with the overall results. If it was, most countries wouldn't bother sending an athlete. There is more to the Olympic Games than just gold medal count
And don't forget the biggest cough of all--Mexico City. Altitude and bad air both. There is always a big boost for the home country in medal count but as OOW says, I doubt it's ALL about the medal count when you are deciding to host or not to host.
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