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Gnam
01-24-08, 05:10 PM
Offseason got you bummed out?
Unsure how you feel about a merger?
Why not try the Daytona 24, and see if you can enjoy it? :D

An Indycar series would have many similarities yes, no? ;)
1. Ownership you hate.
2. Teams to root for and against.
3. Good drivers mixed in with wankers.
4. High speed banking.
5. Ugly, slow cars.
6. Gomer/No fans.

This year's Champ Car contingent consists of -
Prototypes:
#60 Wilson & Rahal, Michael Shank Racing
#11 Dalziel, SAMAX Racing (running with Milka)
#99 Vasser, Gainsco (with Fogarty/Gurney)

GT:
#81 Doornbos, Porsche GT-3, Synergy Racing
#80 Jan Heylen, Porsche GT-3, Synergy
#70 Raphael Matos, RX-8, SpeedSource

cameraman
01-24-08, 05:43 PM
#11 Dalziel, SAMAX Racing (running with Milka)

Sucks to be Ryan...

Sean Malone
01-24-08, 05:47 PM
I thought Matos was an IPS driver. :gomer:

Dazeil is a Champ Car driver? :confused: I would have had to call my 'life line'. :D

Don Quixote
01-24-08, 05:47 PM
I just need to know what Mad Max is driving.

Methanolandbrats
01-24-08, 05:57 PM
No thanks. I watched a few minutes of that last year and it reminded me of watching the vet express the anal glands of a large dog. Don't know why, perhaps it was the shape of the cars.

TrueBrit
01-24-08, 05:59 PM
No thanks. I watched a few minutes of that last year and it reminded me of watching the vet express the anal glands of a large dog. Don't know why, perhaps it was the shape of the cars.

Man you are in a FOUL mood this afternoon...:eek: :rofl: :thumbup:

LOL at both of your posts...my fellow cube-dwellers think I'm having a seizure right now....OMG that's is good stuff!!

pchall
01-24-08, 09:30 PM
If I can figure out what stint Tony George might get in the middle of the night I might set the alarm and watch T&S for the giggles.

Gnam
01-24-08, 09:38 PM
#03 Vision Racing: Porsche/Crawford prototype
Drivers:
John Andretti
Ed Carpenter
A.J. Foyt IV
Vitor Meira
Tony George

:rofl:

cameraman
01-24-08, 09:58 PM
FIVE people?????

Note I didn't say drivers:saywhat:

Methanolandbrats
01-24-08, 10:13 PM
#03 Vision Racing: Porsche/Crawford prototype
Drivers:
John Andretti
Ed Carpenter
A.J. Foyt IV
Vitor Meira
Tony George

:rofl:

Good Lord, I would'nt hire that lineup if I ran a taxi service.

Sean Malone
01-24-08, 10:40 PM
#03 Vision Racing: Porsche/Crawford prototype
Drivers:
John Andretti
Ed Carpenter
A.J. Foyt IV
Vitor Meira
Tony George

:rofl:

That is the most pathetic lineup I've seen in a long time. They're not part of merger thing are they? :fingerscrossed:

Methanolandbrats
01-24-08, 10:48 PM
That is the most pathetic lineup I've seen in a long time. They're not part of merger thing are they? :fingerscrossed: Take a long, hard look at this and you tell me

http://www.indycar.com/drivers/

pchall
01-24-08, 10:50 PM
That is the most pathetic lineup I've seen in a long time. They're not part of merger thing are they? :fingerscrossed:

If John drives 20 hours they might have a top 30 car.

cameraman
01-24-08, 11:01 PM
Take a long, hard look at this and you tell me

http://www.indycar.com/drivers/

That has pictures of the cars - I'd rather not "Take a long, hard look":saywhat:

Sean Malone
01-24-08, 11:05 PM
Take a long, hard look at this and you tell me

http://www.indycar.com/drivers/

Ok, you and you link have convinced me. :D

Indy
01-24-08, 11:21 PM
#03 Vision Racing: Porsche/Crawford prototype
Drivers:
John Andretti
Ed Carpenter
A.J. Foyt IV
Vitor Meira
Tony George

Thanks, I needed a good laugh. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

extramundane
01-24-08, 11:24 PM
#03 Vision Racing: Porsche/Crawford prototype
Drivers:
John Andretti
Ed Carpenter
A.J. Foyt IV
Vitor Meira
Tony George

:rofl:

Looks like they managed to qualify a scrappy 20th out of 24 in class. Can anyone say "coiled snake"?

High Sided
01-25-08, 01:19 AM
I just need to know what Mad Max is driving.


i wasn't gonna say anything but since you brought him up, he'll be here in may...
“Rubicon Race Team”, intends to reveal its “veteran driver” shortly.
http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/indycar/42615/

chop456
01-25-08, 02:50 AM
WGAF? How anyone can watch the Prototripes™ is beyond me. :shakehead

The Rosie O' Donnell of race cars. :tony:

Ziggy
01-25-08, 08:53 AM
Please update us when there is a horrible accident :p

opinionated ow
01-25-08, 09:14 AM
the only news story of this race, Tonis is in it.

Methanolandbrats
01-25-08, 09:23 AM
Looks like they managed to qualify a scrappy 20th out of 24 in class. Can anyone say "coiled snake"?
Who the hell qualified behind that crew? :eek:

Sean Malone
01-25-08, 09:25 AM
Who the hell qualified behind that crew? :eek:

Let me guess, female from Argentina...total WAG.

extramundane
01-25-08, 09:38 AM
Who the hell qualified behind that crew? :eek:

2 of them were Cheever's new litterboxes.
http://theracesite.com/client_images/albums/3394_18.jpg
This angle doesn't show it, but there's a huge goiter right in front of the windshield. Apparently Cheeber's Aerodynamics for Jacktards book didn't work out as well as he hoped.

Cheever + Vision = racing excitement.

Methanolandbrats
01-25-08, 10:18 AM
Cheever is similar to Coulthard and Mikey Waltrip. All three just keep going and going, but it's difficult to see any point in it.

SteveH
01-25-08, 10:32 AM
goiter :rofl: :laugh: :rofl:

dando
01-25-08, 10:32 AM
Cheever + Vision = racing eggcitement.

Fixerated that for ya. :gomer:

-Kevin

chop456
01-25-08, 02:15 PM
Cheever is similar to Coulthard and Mikey Waltrip. All three just keep going and going, but it's difficult to see any point in it.

Coulthard won his share.

Andrew Longman
01-25-08, 03:15 PM
If John drives 20 hours they might have a top 30 car.

Be fair to Meira. He actually has a road racing resume.

One of those wankers wrecked the car last year didn't they?

extramundane
01-25-08, 03:30 PM
Be fair to Meira. He actually has a road racing resume.

One of those wankers wrecked the car last year didn't they?

I know that The Braintrust himself stuffed it into the wall on his 2nd or 3rd practice lap. Dunno about the race itself.

cameraman
01-25-08, 03:31 PM
Yeah I would not be at all surprised to see Meira qualify the car, he has done well in Brazilian sports car racing. and last year the team was Carpenter / Foyt / George / Gregoire / Scheckter.

Methanolandbrats
01-25-08, 04:11 PM
Coulthard won his share. Cheever drank milk and Mikey won Daytoner.

cameraman
01-25-08, 04:28 PM
Cheever drank milk and Mikey won Daytoner.

And Coulthard won some races.

chop456
01-25-08, 07:09 PM
Cheever drank milk

Asterisked milk. :D

Sean O'Gorman
01-26-08, 02:20 PM
Would it surprise you guys that the polesitting car is sponsored by my employer? ;)

Methanolandbrats
01-26-08, 02:43 PM
Would it surprise you guys that the polesitting car is sponsored by my employer? ;) Play your cards right and you might pick up a co-drive next year :thumbup:

Indy
01-26-08, 03:03 PM
Just flipped it on. Still ugly.

cameraman
01-26-08, 03:25 PM
Still ugly.

But now you can see it in High Definition ugly:D

Accipiter
01-26-08, 03:26 PM
Did Cheever get Foyt's permission to name his re-skinned Flabcars, Coyote?

dando
01-26-08, 03:42 PM
Those guppies actually make crapwagons appear appealing. :saywhat:

-Kevin

Accipiter
01-26-08, 03:44 PM
Coyote:

http://theracesite.com/client_images/albums/3375_5.jpg

:eek:

Methanolandbrats
01-26-08, 04:00 PM
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0012/164001/flounder.jpg

Gnam
01-26-08, 04:00 PM
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2893/5404474ec389834b8ig4.jpg

Wheel-Nut
01-26-08, 04:03 PM
Justin Wilson just climbed in for his stint in the #60.

cameraman
01-26-08, 04:09 PM
Did Cheever get Foyt's permission to name his re-skinned Flabcars, Coyote?

It seems he did.

FCYTravis
01-26-08, 04:10 PM
Just when you thought they couldn't make the DPs any uglier (and just when they'd found a way to make the Riley a little prettier), Cheeber had to go and prove to everyone that there is an uglier car than the Picchio. :shakehead

cameraman
01-26-08, 04:14 PM
Coyote:

http://theracesite.com/client_images/albums/3375_5.jpg

:eek:

Thankfully it is dead last in the DP field and it is getting zero tv time.
Actually it is parked.

Accipiter
01-26-08, 04:39 PM
Could be worse. Someone could have shown up with a Lola:

http://motorsport.com/photos/grandam/2008/dt/grandam-2008-dt-jd-0023.jpg

Krohn appear to still be using the Riley.

cameraman
01-26-08, 04:39 PM
They need to have streaming race notes along with live timing.

cameraman
01-26-08, 04:44 PM
Man that is one seriously ugly nose

http://www.grand-am.com/photos/full/010407jantestF800_0010.jpg

cameraman
01-26-08, 04:47 PM
What are the odds of any of the Mazdas finishing?

cameraman
01-26-08, 04:57 PM
Vision Racing goes behind the wall:rofl:

Gnam
01-26-08, 04:58 PM
JPM climbing in.

cameraman
01-26-08, 05:10 PM
Buddy Rice just isn't very bright is he....

dando
01-26-08, 05:44 PM
Man that is one seriously ugly nose

That ain't a nose...it's some sort of blow hole. :saywhat:

-Kevin

extramundane
01-26-08, 06:05 PM
Just when you thought they couldn't make the DPs any uglier (and just when they'd found a way to make the Riley a little prettier), Cheeber had to go and prove to everyone that there is an uglier car than the Picchio. :shakehead

Did I hear correctly that not only did he take over the Fabcar program, he hired Picchio to do the aero work? Sweet Jesus, what an idiot. Nice to know that if there's a new level of suckitude to be reached, Cheever will go that extra mile.


What are the odds of any of the Mazdas finishing?

I'd say those without Patrick Dempsey onboard stand a much better chance.

Accipiter
01-26-08, 06:16 PM
Man, that Andrew Marriott really knows how to pick at scabs, doesn't he? "Your F1 career never materialized, but..." "You were going to be a big NFL player, but..." I'm waiting for him to casually ask some driver about his wife's marital infidelity.

cameraman
01-26-08, 06:31 PM
Nice to see Andrew Ranger has found a paying job at the front of the grid.

FCYTravis
01-26-08, 07:01 PM
Poor Ganassi.

Accipiter
01-26-08, 07:03 PM
Gee, who would have guessed that the obligatory TelMexican would be a liability.

RusH
01-26-08, 07:52 PM
Call nuts but a Picchio is better looking than a Riley.

http://news-images.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/7/9/3/3/8/Picchio-1_grande.jpg

trish
01-26-08, 07:54 PM
I was afraid Ryan (Hunter-Reay) would do something to mess up his run.

Cam
01-26-08, 07:59 PM
I was afraid Ryan (Hunter-Reay) would do something to mess up his run.

RHR is an idiot. I hope he puts it in the wall...:flame:

extramundane
01-26-08, 08:25 PM
Call nuts but a Picchio is better looking than a Riley.

http://news-images.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/7/9/3/3/8/Picchio-1_grande.jpg

A punch in the jaw might be better than a punch in the nuts, but I'm not looking forward to either. Moot point though, I guess, since Picchio's gone.

If all cars look like the Crawford, had less tube-frame, and more horsepower, I think there'd be a lot less animosity towards the class.

Indy
01-26-08, 08:32 PM
I disagree. It is, fundamentally, an exercise in futility. They are racing 24 hours to prove that if you take a limited, very durable, underpowered package you can drive it for twenty four hours. Totally purposeless. The mechanical failures you see are not a result of pushing the envelope, because the teams are required to submit the cars for dyno and aero tests for the purpose of equalization.

It's freaking NASCAR, a pointless marketing exhibition.

extramundane
01-26-08, 08:41 PM
Oh, I'm not suggesting it would be a great thing, but at least it would be somewhat more interesting if the cars weren't fugly and underpowered. And I realize that even the best of car specs wouldn't matter when you've got a sanctioning body which does things like mandate 5-lug wheels on the GT cars. :irked:

Watching this right now makes me realize how much I'd love to see the ALMS prototypes on the Daytona high banks. :\

trish
01-26-08, 08:51 PM
Twinkle toes takes the wheel.

Wheel-Nut
01-26-08, 09:13 PM
Where's the usual NASCAR drivers? Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon . . .

trish
01-26-08, 09:22 PM
I think it's just Jimmie Johnson, Kurt Busch, and A.J. Allmendinger this year. Oh, and Dario Franchitti I believe.

Oops! Forgot about Juan Montoya.

RusH
01-26-08, 09:24 PM
What was that about? Vasser getting a ride? :confused:

Elmo T
01-26-08, 09:26 PM
What was that about? Vasser getting a ride? :confused:


And with whom? Did they say team mate or owner? Zanardi in a DP?

trish
01-26-08, 10:48 PM
What's that on the right side of Helio's head?

cameraman
01-26-08, 11:18 PM
And with whom? Did they say team mate or owner? Zanardi in a DP?

Can't say, no comment, all super secret.

Take home is that the drivers are starting to enjoy driving the DPs. They were saying it last fall and they are saying it now.

FCYTravis
01-27-08, 02:46 AM
The new Pirellis are making a world of difference. Much more consistent rubber, if slightly more unforgiving of mistakes. They don't fall off the side of the planet after five laps like the Hoosiers did.

chop456
01-27-08, 08:43 AM
Coyote:

http://theracesite.com/client_images/albums/3375_5.jpg


http://nqr.thesmallprint.org/d/15110-1/what-has-been-seen-cannot-be-unseen.jpg

nissan gtp
01-27-08, 09:09 AM
^:rofl:


F1 > ALMS > CC > DP > IRL > NASCAR

trish
01-27-08, 11:15 AM
6 car in trouble?

Accipiter
01-27-08, 11:19 AM
Crap.

Anyone but Ganassi, please.

Methanolandbrats
01-27-08, 11:32 AM
Floyd is such a prick.

Fio1
01-27-08, 11:35 AM
Man, I can't believe there were 4 cars on the lead lap after 19 hours, and after 21 only the 01 is left on the lead lap. The 99 was 6th 5 laps down at 19 hours, now it's lying 2nd. Things change quickly.....

I hope the 70 can hold on to win in GT! Zoom Zoom, baby!:cool:

Accipiter
01-27-08, 11:57 AM
Grand Am GT is a step up from World Challenge GT? How can you step up into slower cars?

Aschenbach's talent is being wasted in this series.

OW
01-27-08, 12:21 PM
Since he is doing well....

I looked for this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFnnwdlerJM
I Don't blame Juan ONE IOTA...on that one..

He IS a great racer
And he caught CART in its greater years...

Hope this isn't a jinx

Methanolandbrats
01-27-08, 12:29 PM
"ooh, my head, you're a f'n idiot"...............don't know why Monty was upset, he never uses his head anyway. The camera guy should have kicked his ass

EDwardo
01-27-08, 12:54 PM
6 hours of yellow flags during I think about 24 cautions.

And still 1 and 1/2 hours to go.

trish
01-27-08, 01:15 PM
Have these guys never heard of Depend? Heck, I bet they could get them to sponsor a car.

Problem solved. (http://www.depend.com/products/products_male.asp)

Accipiter
01-27-08, 01:32 PM
LOL! Congrats on your 1000th post being about man-diapers. ;)

pchall
01-27-08, 01:39 PM
What's that on the right side of Helio's head?

His dance partner's foot? ;)

trish
01-27-08, 01:42 PM
LOL! Congrats on your 1000th post being about man-diapers. ;)

Thank you! I've been sitting here thinking of a good marketing campaign.

They can either be the official adult diaper of Grand Am, or the official adult diaper of the Rolex 24.

The ads would include some of the most well known drivers telling the viewers to wear them without shame because they do.

Drivers walking on the beach talking about which one they use and why.

I'm sure there's a lot of money to be made here.

Accipiter
01-27-08, 02:42 PM
Ugh. Oh well.

Nice to see that little Mazda win anyway.

Andrew Longman
01-27-08, 03:19 PM
Ugh. Oh well.

Nice to see that little Mazda win anyway.

I like the high whine of those rotories too. Actually sounds like a performance sports car compared to the DPs. Did I hear correctly that a rebuild only costs $8G and they replace about only four parts? That's hard to argue with.

cameraman
01-27-08, 03:21 PM
If Mazda bans Patrick Dempsey from their cars they will do even better.

He defines moran

extramundane
01-27-08, 04:12 PM
I just read that yellow flag periods accounted for more than 6 hours of the race. Seems a bit excessive to me... :\

Andrew Longman
01-27-08, 04:21 PM
I just read that yellow flag periods accounted for more than 6 hours of the race. Seems a bit excessive to me... :\

Yes, in typical NASCAR fashion they managed to change the caution procedures in a way that bunched up the field which caused multiple cautions on restarts.

After the first stint Scooter bashed the new procedures and he correctly predicted how it would play out.

Gnam
01-27-08, 04:26 PM
Grand Am is the new IROC. Drivers from differnet series competeing mostly for fun.

I saw the Vision car on the flatbed, but I musta missed the replay. Wha happen? :D

nrc
01-29-08, 08:20 PM
Correction: Grand-Am-Daytona 24-Hour Story

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) -In a Jan. 27 story about the Rolex 24-Hour race, The Associated Press erroneously reported Chip Ganassi said, "It seemed like that car caused half the caution flags out there," referring to his No. 02 car. Ganassi denied making that statement.