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nissan gtp
08-28-07, 08:04 PM
gone. (http://www.grandprixarizona.com/)

Sean Malone
08-28-07, 08:40 PM
:shakehead

RHR_Fan
08-28-07, 08:42 PM
Wow...

Sean Malone
08-28-07, 08:44 PM
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/images/tracks/t_Phoenix2_240.gif

Goodbye kitty. :gomer:

RusH
08-28-07, 08:44 PM
OMG, what will CCF do with the Denith fund? :gomer:

nissan gtp
08-28-07, 08:58 PM
OMG, what will CCF do with the Denith fund? :gomer:

give it bIF# :rofl:

rocket
08-28-07, 09:01 PM
Bush, this is pretty much as Mickey Mouse as it gets. Nothing good can come of it, and it's just another black eye for the series and management, whether they are directly involved with this decision or not.:shakehead

rocket
08-28-07, 09:01 PM
give it bIF# :rofl:

Yeah, I heard he needs help getting to Jollyete:D

Indy
08-28-07, 09:02 PM
:flame: :flame: :flame: :flame:

RichK
08-28-07, 09:05 PM
Goodbye kitty. :gomer:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

coolhand
08-28-07, 09:09 PM
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/images/tracks/t_Phoenix2_240.gif

Goodbye kitty. :gomer:

lol

greenie
08-28-07, 09:23 PM
100% pitiful. :gomer:

jonovision_man
08-28-07, 10:24 PM
So whose to blame this time? Can't be the FIA.

Promoter? :p

Oh wait:


Unfortunately, current economic turmoil and the impact it has had on our sponsors precludes us from being able to produce the caliber of event we had envisioned.”

Whew! I was worried it was a problem with ChampCar, but it's just the economy.

This series is becoming a punch-line. I wouldn't be at all surprised if 2007 were the last season. :(

jono

Methanolandbrats
08-28-07, 10:32 PM
Sponsors will be impressed. Both sides are puking money out their asses. This is suspicious.........some bastard child of a "merger" can't be far away.

Sean Malone
08-28-07, 10:35 PM
I have read that it's the France Mafia and Bernie's Cronies that are to blame. I've also read that we should not mention this any longer and stand behind the series. I wonder how the people who had tickets to Phoenix feel?:gomer:

jonovision_man
08-28-07, 10:37 PM
Sponsors will be impressed. Both sides are puking money out their asses. This is suspicious.........some bastard child of a "merger" can't be far away.

Yup.

jono

Sean Malone
08-28-07, 10:38 PM
Yup.

jono

But as usual it will only be coming from Champ Car. :gomer:

jonovision_man
08-28-07, 10:58 PM
But as usual it will only be coming from Champ Car. :gomer:

ChampCar is the one going tits up. The IRL can wait, they have the goose that is still laying the golden eggs. KK's goose is laying stinky turds.

It's just all bad... I don't have any reason for optimism anymore. If any season was going to be the turn-around it had to be this one.

jono

Rogue Leader
08-28-07, 11:04 PM
Bush, this is pretty much as Mickey Mouse as it gets. Nothing good can come of it, and it's just another black eye for the series and management, whether they are directly involved with this decision or not.:shakehead


It deserved to die, between the crap layout, and WTF racing in December? leave that to A1GP....

cart7
08-28-07, 11:09 PM
And I was so looking forward to seeing Santa drive the pace car. :laugh:

Ankf00
08-28-07, 11:32 PM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1128/1257903516_3e6b5f630a_o.jpg

Jag_Warrior
08-29-07, 01:09 AM
I have read that it's the France Mafia and Bernie's Cronies that are to blame. I've also read that we should not mention this any longer and stand behind the series. I wonder how the people who had tickets to Phoenix feel?:gomer:

Yeah, I read that too. :shakehead

If this series had as many successes as half-azzed excuses, Fernando Alonso could use a potential Champ Car ride as leverage against McLaren for 2008. Instead... I wonder if Dan Clarke will be back next season? :yuck:

cart7
08-29-07, 07:12 AM
My suggestion to CCWS management for the 2008 season, if there is a 2008 season.

Schedule LB and Toronto and leave the rest as TBA's.
If you set the bar low enough, running just 3 races has already exceeded expectations.

:thumbup:

Rus'L
08-29-07, 09:16 AM
Both sides are puking money out their asses.

Thanks. You gave me my laugh for the day. I don't know why, but this line had me cracking up.

Easy
08-29-07, 11:05 AM
It would be really great if some driver had a sponsor lined up for the Atlantics 'Dash for Cash' and now has to explain to that company that thanks for time and money but the event is canceled. However, Las Vegas is just next spring and there's no way that could be canceled... Right?

Gnam
08-29-07, 11:23 AM
However, Las Vegas is just next spring and there's no way that could be canceled... Right?

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3940/shoedropsmallyh7.jpg

schedule + suspense = no fun.

oddlycalm
08-29-07, 01:20 PM
This was a bad idea as I posted when it was hatched and all it did was bring further embarassment to a series that didn't need more of the same.

Anyone that atteneded the F1 races is Phoenix knows why I thought it was a bad idea at the time it was announced. Even if the France rumors are true, it's still a dumb location for a race in a market that has shown repeatedly it doesn't care.

oc

Racing Truth
08-29-07, 02:11 PM
SHOCKING! Err, well, not really.:shakehead :thumdown:

Not surprisingly, the RM chat is being dominated w/ PHX questions. (http://www.speedtv.com/chat/chattool.php?chat_id=87)

Racing Truth
08-29-07, 02:13 PM
BTW:



Don, LA: Your take on the web "experts" is right on. Thanks to AR1.com, CC has been reduced to an F1 reject series.
:
I have no problem with a fan starting a web site like Mark C. it's just that the owners actually consider him a legitimate reporter and worry about what is said on the site. but take a look around a champ car race and count the national media from the USA. SPEED and espn.com.

Revealing, in a rather unfortunate way.:thumdown:

Dr. Corkski
08-29-07, 02:17 PM
john evans, new lebanon: whats up:

champ car stock isn't.:laugh:

Racing Truth
08-29-07, 02:27 PM
Pretty much what I thought:


Kevin A., Willoughby, OH: On a scale of 1-10 (10 being the most) how surprised/shocked were you by the PHX cancellation?
:
a 1. I heard weeks ago it was in jeopardy and nobody in phoenix was supporting it either.
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As everyone said, a Dec. race was an awful idea, and the "track" was awful. In some sense, good riddance.

jonovision_man
08-29-07, 02:41 PM
As everyone said, a Dec. race was an awful idea, and the "track" was awful. In some sense, good riddance.

It's a lot like Ansan was - a race that nobody would really miss, but a strong indication that management doesn't know WTF they're doing.

jono

Racing Truth
08-29-07, 02:48 PM
Stan, Dover, DE: Who do you think Kalkhoven will blame for the cancellation of Phoenix? NASCAR, Tony George or city of Phoenix?
:
all of the above, plus Katherine Legge, the Ozone and Wall Street.

:rofl: :rofl: :laugh:

Racing Truth
08-29-07, 02:58 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

STD
08-29-07, 03:03 PM
^ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Spicoli
08-29-07, 03:23 PM
lots of good satuff there today.

it's like a Celebrity Roast of CCWS. :D

Spicoli
08-29-07, 04:06 PM
Got one in late:


Stiffler's Mom, Your bedroom: Who will be the last man standing at CCWS?
:
Joe Heitzler or Chris Pook.

Opposite Lock
08-29-07, 11:29 PM
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/images/tracks/t_Phoenix2_240.gif

Goodbye kitty. :gomer:

That rules. :thumbup:
:rofl: