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Accipiter
08-06-07, 05:04 PM
Not video but you get the picture!
Aw. You can just feel the love, can't you? :laugh: :rofl: :laugh: :rofl:
spinner26
08-06-07, 05:12 PM
Exactly. When you look at days like yesterday, you have to just sit there in amazement, staring at the TV, and wonder what these people are thinking? Flying crapwagons, near death accidents, a leader who is clearly delusaional and probably brain damaged beyond recovery, and companies continually pouring money into what is a completely empty event after event series....why nobody just stands up and says "WHY THE **** ARE WE EVEN DOING THIS ANYMORE?" amazes me.
:shakehead x 100000000000000000000000000000000000:thumdown:
cause de can:gomer: wooty woop hoot!:D
Napoleon
08-06-07, 05:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQs7oAuYZEY
why nobody just stands up and says "WHY THE **** ARE WE EVEN DOING THIS ANYMORE?" amazes me.
:shakehead x 100000000000000000000000000000000000:thumdown:
Who knows? I'll admit I went to M-O, though you might call the IRL part an added bonus. I saw no gomers. No IRL fanatics. No one was chanting "I am Indy" (though my 3yo seemed to like it :rolleyes: , perhaps that says something about it!). Hardly anyone wearing IRL swag.
What we did see: a sea of Team Penske hats, the Team Penske ticket entrance, loads of Honda families who all seemed to be enjoying themselves but were clearly NOT race fans of any series, an empty IRL swag tent, a nearly full ALMS swag tent, one clearly drunk young lady who offered to run around naked if Danica won the race.
The paddock and vendor area had a CART-like feel, but it lacked any soul. It is hard to explain. It felt vaguely familiar, but with this sad and lost feel to it. I expected hardcore gomers cheering on their favorite drivers. IRL fans packed around the haulers hoping for a glimpse of Scott Sharp or Sam Hornish. But there was none of this. Maybe a few more fans at the AGR and Penske area, but little else.
That is the only way I can explain it. To a race fan, it just felt sad and empty - even if the place was packed.
miatanut
08-06-07, 05:50 PM
cause de can:gomer: wooty woop hoot!:D
Because they can explains NASCAR teams with 45 chassis between two drivers for a season. People show up for the races. Sponsors are willing to pay obscene amounts of money to be part of the show.
Then we have the IRL, the answer to the question that nobody asked.
I understood it in the early years. It takes time to grow something from scratch, so it wasn't reasonable to expect success immediately. The last couple years it is quite clearly a flop, which even the GIRL series has been unable save. At the same time, nobody is willing to put a bullet in it to put it out of its misery.
I'm not particularly impressed with Champ Car these days, but when more folks show up at Laguna testing, a 1 1/2 hour drive for most Bay Area folks, than for qualifying at a typical IRL race, many of which are in or near population centers, for me that means one of these series is worth doing, the other is a dismal failure.
Tony will keep this going as long as there is a field to fund. Why Honda and others don't throw in the towel is beyond me.
Wheel-Nut
08-06-07, 06:04 PM
Q. Were you concerned when there was 10 and 12 cars running there with 50 laps to go that something might happen because it was very close and there was a lot of passing and stuff going on? From a fan standpoint it was fabulous to watch.
TONY KANAAN: Yeah, for you guys for sure. For us it was just like death row waiting for somebody to kill you. I knew it was going to happen. I knew it. I avoided two times sending Scheckter to the grandstands. Somebody had to give up, and I knew somebody in the front was going to get stubborn enough and say I'm not going to give up and I'm not going to give up and I'm not going to give up, and that's what happened there.
Really it was just a bomb waiting to explode. Somebody just pulled the plug and then they just wait. Thank God nobody is hurt.
http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=9641
Spicoli
08-06-07, 07:27 PM
Q. Were you concerned when there was 10 and 12 cars running there with 50 laps to go that something might happen because it was very close and there was a lot of passing and stuff going on? From a fan standpoint it was fabulous to watch.
TONY KANAAN: Yeah, for you guys for sure. For us it was just like death row waiting for somebody to kill you. I knew it was going to happen. I knew it. I avoided two times sending Scheckter to the grandstands. Somebody had to give up, and I knew somebody in the front was going to get stubborn enough and say I'm not going to give up and I'm not going to give up and I'm not going to give up, and that's what happened there.
Really it was just a bomb waiting to explode. Somebody just pulled the plug and then they just wait. Thank God nobody is hurt.
http://www.indycar.com/news/story.php?story_id=9641
Well Tony, then - espcially with a kid on the way - why don't you GET THE **** OUT?:shakehead
Fuggin gomers....:thumdown:
grungex
08-06-07, 07:45 PM
It was a crazy race. I did not enjoy a single bit of it, apart from victory lane, so I would say it was a bit crazy out there.
Spicoli
08-06-07, 08:03 PM
Here's something really freaky--the last four Indy 500 winners have all "blown over" in separate crashes. Now that's a bad omen.
:shakehead :thumdown:
Sean Malone
08-06-07, 08:18 PM
No video of Danica whining after the race?
I'm betting they had Ashly cam after Dario was on his nogin.
After that race, I applaud the IRL's "decision" not to return to MIS. Even if they weren't technically the decider. :thumbup:
Spicoli
08-06-07, 09:36 PM
ROLL BAR: TOAST
http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/build_photo.php?photo_id=62058&size=med
Timew to put an end to this ****.:thumdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQs7oAuYZEY
Yipes.
Also looks like some pretty irrresponsible driving with cars known to get major air when they are upset.
Insomniac
08-06-07, 09:44 PM
I'm betting they had Ashly cam after Dario was on his nogin.
From the highlights on youtube I'm guessing she was not at the race.
opinionated ow
08-06-07, 10:08 PM
i thought delphi went belly up?
saw another irl moron's post on another board. it was apparently a great race??? wtf...
I refuse to be moved by their stupidity. zEVERY one knows thats a russian roulette series. God bless them, but, YEN is more important than sanity. Nothing will change until several drivers are killed. **** 'em.
one day one of these cars or big portion (engine) will end up in the stands. Luckily the IRL doesn't sell-out like Nascar, so there is a chance it will land where there are no fans. But, then again it might....:shakehead
Racing wheel to wheel in open wheel cars on a flat-out oval is stupid. It was dangerous when CART did it, and has become even more sucidal with the IRL.
devilmaster
08-07-07, 12:21 AM
I still believe there is a place for openwheelers on the big ovals, if done right.
No foot to the floor crap, no hanford devices. small wings, force the cars to let off in the corners. If someone is so dialed in they can lap most of the field, let them.
Eggciting, contrived racing is what makes it so dangerous regardless of what series is racing.
JohnHKart
08-07-07, 12:32 AM
I wish I was!
This has to be one of the funniest threads I've ever read on this forum. Good work guys!!! (Of course the material you have to work with makes it as easy as stealing candy from a baby)
John
ROLL BAR: TOAST
http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/build_photo.php?photo_id=62058&size=med
Timew to put an end to this ****.:thumdown:
Compare the "before" to the "after" photo above. The IRL used to have a roll over structure designed into the air scoop. WTF is it? Ground down to below the height where Franchitti's skid lid is in this picture:
http://www.indycar.com/news/2007/michigan/images/dfranchitii-350-08062007.jpg
I remember something like this happened to Pancho Carter at Indy in the 80's. His roll bar was completely gone and his helmet at holes in it where it grounded out. You'd think things would have improved a bit in 20 years...
Ground down to below the height where Franchitti's skid lid is in this picture:
The top of his helmet is scuffed up.
Methanolandbrats
08-07-07, 12:14 PM
How about a special IRL edition, scuff resistant helmet made of cast iron? :gomer:
How about a special IRL edition, scuff resistant helmet made of cast iron? :gomer:
They have those. They call it a roof. Also, to prevent wheel to wheel contact, they have a newfangled device called a fender. Expect to see both at the Indy 500 in the near future.
http://www.crracing.com/scnews.shtml
:gomer:
trauma1
08-08-07, 09:47 AM
EARL should sell sposorship on the skid plates:rofl:
opinionated ow
08-08-07, 09:54 AM
where was the last dirt track danica patrick, dan wheldon, sam hornish jr, marco andretti, michael andretti, scott dixon etc. etc. etc. raced at? for that matter, when was the last time any of them ran a front engined car...like it or not, you aren't going to get short track drivers into that series. there is just no practical stepping stone. the buttmobiles where the best opportunity to build that stepping stone up, but they failed. the IP(O)S is the most irrelevant series there is. not one person has come out of that and been succesful.
and on top of that, the IRL on average draws less to an event than a lot of short tracks do weekly!
Sam Hornish has run a front engined car very recently (ARCA, Busch).
There are at least two drivers that have come from short tracks to the IRL. If you do not know who they are, then you have no business commenting on this.
I know that there were only about 25,000 fans at Michigan Sunday. But if you can show me a weekly short track that draws more than 25,000 fans on a every Saturday night, I'll eat my own shorts.
The Indy Pro series may be irrelevant to you. That's fine. But it has given several drivers at least the OPPORTUNITY to step up into IndyCar. Again, if you don't know who they are, then you have no business commenting on it.
Get your facts straight before shooting your mouth off.
gomer speak rofl.
opinionated ow
08-08-07, 09:56 AM
http://www.crracing.com/scnews.shtml
:gomer:
the buttmobile was one of the dumbest things done in the history of USAC...if they had played it smart, it would have been a mid engined car (with driver still behind) with small "cc speedway" style wings on it...and without those wanky sidepods and nosecone!
Spicoli
08-08-07, 10:15 AM
if you don't know who they are, then you have no business commenting on it.
IOW, he has no fuggin clue. ahh,
"When Gomers Tremble" back after these important mesages from our sponsors. :gomer:
trauma1
08-08-07, 12:01 PM
Bruce Ashmore, co-designer of the C&R chassis, gLAD HE DIDN'T GET HIS MITTS ON THE CC CHASSIS THAT HE WANTED BUILT
Sam Hornish has run a front engined car very recently (ARCA, Busch).....
Get your facts straight before shooting your mouth off.
That whole thing sounds like the "Chewbacca Defense". :rolleyes:
So now they ARE back to front engine cars, dirt tracks, and The Vision? I thought even the gomers finally let that myth go.
trauma1
08-08-07, 02:06 PM
the cause of tthe big one
http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/projectile_green_turtle
Ahhhhh, the question now is WILL THEY MARKET the big one? They've pimped EVERY possible angle (Danicle, "The RUmble", Milkie, etc...).
Of course they will. Last time they pimped the car's safety was just after Kenny ate fence and days later Renna was killed. You think they've learned anything?
CART's former elite being used as crash test dummies for FTG's roulette series....hahhahahaaa, good luck getting to F1 you YEN jockeys.
opinionated ow
08-08-07, 07:16 PM
That whole thing sounds like the "Chewbacca Defense". :rolleyes:
So now they ARE back to front engine cars, dirt tracks, and The Vision? I thought even the gomers finally let that myth go.
the logic is that sarah fisher and ed carpenter are great bewcause they came from dirt tracks (where they weren't very good...). and they say they only support the drivers from the short tracks. then in the next breath, its ok to support danican (because she is danica AND because she once tested a focus midget), marco (because he is an andretti), hornish (because he has front engine experience :laugh: ), dixon (because he goes and watches sprints and midgets every now and again-not that surprising for a kiwi or aussie to do really).
Jervis Tetch 1
08-08-07, 07:43 PM
They are ALL crying:cry: :cry: :cry:
:laugh:
Spicoli
08-08-07, 07:53 PM
http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95299
PaffTard in fell meltdown. f'in brilliant.:thumbup: :cry: :rofl:
The Vision died when all the CART teams showed up. :laugh: At least vision motorsports still has an Oval Tracker (Carpenter and AJ IV). :tony:
Don Quixote
08-09-07, 09:56 AM
http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95299
PaffTard in fell meltdown. f'in brilliant.:thumbup: :cry: :rofl:
That thread answers the question "who is left for TG to alienate"? :rofl:
Spicoli
08-09-07, 10:21 AM
That thread answers the question "who is left for TG to alienate"? :rofl:
I think there are about 5 left:
JimmyHendricks
wilke
T13
CuC
and maybe mattndallas
No diisrespect meant for anyone over there ( ;) ) but when are these folks gonna wake up and realize they have been sold a false bill of goods? :shakehead I commend PaffTard for at LEAST tellin it like it is; but the Gomerati that just swill the koolaid - no matter what it is - are the ones I just don't get. With the exception of CCF, most pro-CCWS sites have the intellect to be able to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the series they prefer. I do have to believe that the product is there within the mis-management and leadership goofs at CCWS. we call em like we see em. They can't see though their own rose coloroed glasses. A sense of humor can alleviate alot that is wrong with both series. But formlua C-Waggen is just a failure on all fronts.
Oh well, packin up the final amounts of junk, and out the door in about a half hour. At least we still have RA:thumbup:
Some people will never admit that they're wrong. The most likely reason why is because they didn't receive enough parental affection when they were children and therefore are desperately insecure.
the buttmobile was one of the dumbest things done in the history of USAC...if they had played it smart, it would have been a mid engined car (with driver still behind) with small "cc speedway" style wings on it...and without those wanky sidepods and nosecone!
Super modifieds got it right. This makes Oswego a must overnight when I drive east to the Cape.
http://www.oswegospeedway.com/Portals/0/HamiltonPR_200.jpg
The gomers got it wrong. The buttmobile:
http://cranialcavity.net/fullthrottle/wp/wp-images/crown-car.jpg
Don Quixote
08-09-07, 12:18 PM
The buttmobile:
http://cranialcavity.net/fullthrottle/wp/wp-images/crown-car.jpg Its hard to imagine, but somewhere there is a person that approved the final decision to build this and thought it was a good idea.
opinionated ow
08-09-07, 12:22 PM
Super modifieds got it right. This makes Oswego a must overnight when I drive east to the Cape.
http://www.oswegospeedway.com/Portals/0/HamiltonPR_200.jpg
The gomers got it wrong. The buttmobile:
http://cranialcavity.net/fullthrottle/wp/wp-images/crown-car.jpg
hmmm....got me wondering again. if CART Had worked with USAC to get the spridget, silver crown route to SUPERMODIFIED route in order, would we have avoided this entire farce?
i'm still convinced part of tony's rationale was to get Special Ed a go. because according to a few choice gomers, he was a top sprint driver :rolleyes:
devilmaster
08-09-07, 12:24 PM
if CART Had worked with USAC to get the spridget, silver crown route to SUPERMODIFIED route in order, would we have avoided this entire farce?
Nope. Tony wanted a bigger share of the pie. Problem was (and still is) that Tony didn't realize that having 10% of a 500 million dollar pie is way better than 100% of a 30 million dollar pie.
hmmm....got me wondering again. if CART Had worked with USAC to get the spridget, silver crown route to SUPERMODIFIED route in order, would we have avoided this entire farce?
No, Tony would have come up with a dozen other 'reasons'
Its all about control, no less than 51%. That's the real reason. He didn't have it then and he sure as hell isn't retreating from that position now, regardless of what he does to the sport.
trauma1
08-09-07, 12:26 PM
Its hard to imagine, but somewhere there is a person that approved the final decision to build this and thought it was a good idea.
bruce ashmore designed it with sammich foyt
I think there are about 5 left:
JimmyHendricks
wilke
T13
CuC
and maybe mattndallas
Jim Wilke
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I don't know as much about racing history as I would like but many of the early races were held on horse racing tracks which were ovals and left turns.
The great gomer admits his ignorance. Can't these nitwits even Google a bit of history about all of the top level public road/street racing before WW1? I used to spend a lot of time posting about the road racing roots of the AAA National Championship in the Vanderbilt Cup and the American Grand Prize road/street races. I guess nobody ever read that stuff.
The IRL and its fanbase will "die of a theory" in the absence of facts they will not admit.
opinionated ow
08-10-07, 09:28 AM
Super modifieds got it right. This makes Oswego a must overnight when I drive east to the Cape.
http://www.oswegospeedway.com/Portals/0/HamiltonPR_200.jpg
The gomers got it wrong. The buttmobile:
http://cranialcavity.net/fullthrottle/wp/wp-images/crown-car.jpg
oswego is on my must see list. not sure whether i prefer with or without top wingss yet...still deciding, will have to watch more races on their website
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