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pchall
05-09-07, 08:53 PM
Practice Day 1

-- 14 Manning did not run.

27 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 43.4930 206.930 15 21 DFL

Practice Day 2

25 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 41.7813 215.407 9 9 Slower than Milka and Marty!

26 14 Manning, Darren D/H/F 01:09.3274 129.819 2 2 two laps & DFL

Sean O'Gorman
05-09-07, 09:53 PM
So you are going to follow the IRL every day for the next two weeks? Have fun with that. :rolleyes:

emjaya
05-09-07, 10:34 PM
Practice Day 1

-- 14 Manning did not run.

27 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 43.4930 206.930 15 21 DFL

Practice Day 2

25 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 41.7813 215.407 9 9 Slower than Milka and Marty!

26 14 Manning, Darren D/H/F 01:09.3274 129.819 2 2 two laps & DFL

At the risk of derailing your futility watch, let me say just the once Go Marty, Go.

:D

Winston Wolfe
05-09-07, 11:30 PM
Practice Day 1

-- 14 Manning did not run.

27 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 43.4930 206.930 15 21 DFL

Practice Day 2

25 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 41.7813 215.407 9 9 Slower than Milka and Marty!

26 14 Manning, Darren D/H/F 01:09.3274 129.819 2 2 two laps & DFL


Quite honestly - I dont see how the drunken, Jr can actually fit into one of the waggens..... but then again, this is Sammich's operation and I am sure they had experience back in the day of widening them thar Coyote tubs or the Lolas before AJ decided he wasnt gettin any more of them special motors or fire extinguishers that helped his chances back then....

Sad deal for Manning.... he actually showed some decent performance on one of the road courses earlier before he ran out of talent passing one of the true road course wankers..... didnt he ?

devilmaster
05-09-07, 11:49 PM
So you are going to follow the IRL every day for the next two weeks? Have fun with that. :rolleyes:

coughcoughcoughcoughgrandcoughamcoughcoughcough

kettle, pot.

pchall
05-10-07, 07:38 AM
So you are going to follow the IRL every day for the next two weeks? Have fun with that. :rolleyes:

I just wish Foyt Racing would run a Daytona Crapotype, too! :)

Spicoli
05-10-07, 08:43 AM
I just wish Foyt Racing would run a Daytona Crapotype, too! :)

:laugh:

Sean O'Gorman
05-10-07, 08:56 AM
coughcoughcoughcoughgrandcoughamcoughcoughcough

kettle, pot.

What the hell are you talking about? I haven't watched a lap of racing this year involving a series I don't like.

"But I'm just watching so I can point out how much it sucks" :gomer: :gomer:

Cam
05-10-07, 09:46 AM
What the hell are you talking about? I haven't watched a lap of racing this year involving a series I don't like.

"But I'm just watching so I can point out how much it sucks" :gomer: :gomer:

Hey numbies!!! Ya don't hafta "watch" to find the info out.... You are such an o'gorman.... O wait... nevermind... :gomer:

Sean O'Gorman
05-10-07, 10:15 AM
Hey numbies!!! Ya don't hafta "watch" to find the info out.... You are such an o'gorman.... O wait... nevermind... :gomer:

Still, is it really worth the effort to load the T&S? Its about as futile as reading an Ank post.

extramundane
05-10-07, 10:47 AM
Still, is it really worth the effort to load the T&S?

Probably worth as much effort as comparing everything to autocrossing, except that some people actually find the Futility Watch entertaining.

Methanolandbrats
05-10-07, 10:59 AM
Probably worth as much effort as comparing everything to autocrossing, except that some people actually find the Futility Watch entertaining.
:thumbup: :rofl: :thumbup:

Spicoli
05-10-07, 12:46 PM
Teh Futlity watch reminds me on a regular basis just howq good TonyTard has been to the world of racing. :thumbup:


:gomer:

G.
05-10-07, 01:07 PM
some people actually find the Futility Watch entertaining.I used to skip the futility watches, cuz they were just full of hate.

Now I read them because they are just full of hate.


I'm thinking of taking up a new hobby as well: Standing in the front yard shaking my fist at "You damn kids!". You know, the ones on my lawn.:p

pchall
05-10-07, 07:10 PM
Practice Day 3

1 9 Dixon, Scott D/H/F 39.7398 226.473 45 47

14 20 Carpenter, Ed D/H/F 40.1911 223.930 44 45

16 14 Manning, Darren D/H/F 40.2338 223.693 42 43

20 22 Foyt IV, AJ D/H/F 40.5649 221.867 40 42

24 23 Duno, Milka D/H/F 41.1132 218.908 16 47
25 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 41.1964 218.466 40 40
26 77 Gregoire, Stephan P/H/F 41.2333 218.270 57 58

It's looking like the only pole our heroes will be near this weekend is at the Classy Chassis.

Chief
05-10-07, 08:56 PM
Special FutILity shout-out to Tony George for presenting the most unimaginably weakest field in Indy 500 history and having only 26 driver/car combos on track this week. With no TV and Indiana changing time zones the destruction of even more traditions have commenced: Happy hour is neither happy nor in the right hour. Great job Tony, you suck.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled Foytility.....

Spicoli
05-10-07, 09:38 PM
Special FutILity shout-out to Tony George for presenting the most unimaginably weakest field in Indy 500 history and having only 26 driver/car combos on track this week. With no TV and Indiana changing time zones the destruction of even more traditions have commenced: Happy hour is neither happy nor in the right hour. Great job Tony, you suck.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled Foytility.....


http://i6.tinypic.com/62iz5gi.jpg

cameraman
05-11-07, 02:22 PM
It ain't Foytility but it seems Milka has trashed her first Dallara...

pchall
05-11-07, 03:59 PM
It ain't Foytility but it seems Milka has trashed her first Dallara...

We'll add Duno as an honorary Foyt for the Month of May. :tony:


The yellow is extended as repairs are done to the SAFER Barrier.
2007-05-11 14:09:31

Yellow for heavy contact in T2 by #23 Milka Duno.
2007-05-11 13:58:49

She must have smacked it pretty hard.

matthole
05-11-07, 04:12 PM
We'll add Duno as an honorary Foyt for the Month of May. :tony:



She must have smacked it pretty hard.


:thumbup: :gomer:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070511/capt.9052d592fe0748e5a813214c719b9edb.irl_indy_500 _auto_racing_naa112.jpg

IlliniRacer
05-11-07, 04:36 PM
A couple of quotes from the Kite Kool-Aid Forum:

Regarding the SAFER barrier:

IMS is ran like a well-oiled machine, so it will be fixed to address safety concerns today and for cosmetic purposes after hours.


If you never hit it, you ain't tryin'. :rolleyes:

pchall
05-11-07, 07:56 PM
Practice Day 4

1 9 Dixon, Scott 227.167

11 14 Manning, Tex 224.054 The special fire extinguisher bottles arrived?

14 39 Andretti, Michael 223.998 Sandbagging of just cashing the check?

18 22 Foyt IV, A. J. 223.561 A chip off the old blockhead, for sure!

23 50 Unser, Jr., Al 221.457 No assault charge, no DUI, no speeding ticket.

24 25 Roth, Marty 220.104 Earns "Fastest Canadian" award.

26 23 Duno, Milka 218.640 Took a ride on the wild side.

pchall
05-12-07, 03:53 PM
The Weird Bastardized Version of Pole Day 3:52 ET

The provisional pole sitter is Kanaan. WTF is a provisional pole at Indy? Either you are fastest or somebody just kicked your ass out of P1.

1 Tony Kanaan (11) 39.7815 226.236

17 AJ Foyt IV (22) 40.4598 222.443

19 Darren Manning (14) 40.5566 221.912

22 Al Unser Jr (50) 41.0791 219.090

23 Marty Roth (25) 41.1046 218.954

The usual suspects have reverted to form and are just diddling around because they don't have a chance of posting a Top 11 time today. Looks like they'll all accept mediocrity and hope for a Top 22 time on Sunday.

Top 11? Top 22? How NASCAR lite can you get?

dando
05-12-07, 04:07 PM
The Weird Bastardized Version of Pole Day 3:52 ET

The provisional pole sitter is Kanaan. WTF is a provisional pole at Indy? Either you are fastest or somebody just kicked your ass out of P1.

1 Tony Kanaan (11) 39.7815 226.236

17 AJ Foyt IV (22) 40.4598 222.443

19 Darren Manning (14) 40.5566 221.912

22 Al Unser Jr (50) 41.0791 219.090

23 Marty Roth (25) 41.1046 218.954

The usual suspects have reverted to form and are just diddling around because they don't have a chance of posting a Top 11 time today. Looks like they'll all accept mediocrity and hope for a Top 22 time on Sunday.

Top 11? Top 22? How NASCAR lite can you get?

All they are is numbers, homey. 11, 22, 33, 25/8....whatever does the trick, yo. :tony:

-Kevin

pchall
05-12-07, 08:21 PM
Notes from the crock that is now Pole Day.

1 3 Castroneves, Helio D/H/F 225.817 Pole Day

13 20 Carpenter, Ed D/H/F 222.685 Pole Day 'Bumped'

17 22 Foyt IV, AJ D/H/F 221.467 Pole Day 'Bumped'

19 14 Manning, Darren D/H/F 222.656 Pole Day 'Failed Attempt'
20 20 Carpenter, Ed D/H/F 222.652 Pole Day 'Failed Attempt'

Under the pre 2005 IRL/Vision rules Mr. Ed, IV, and Tex Manning would all be in the field with mediocre but probably safe qualifying times. Castroneves would not be on the pole since he completed two qualification runs with the same chassis. Under the old rules the qualified car had to be withdrawn from the race before a driver could make a second run for pole or a more secure position in the field with another chassis. Now the same car gets three attempts each day, and a completed qualifying run can be "withdrawn" by the entrant. Sam "The Ovalmeister" Hornish made three complete runs with one chassis, but had major bobbles during the 2nd and 3rd runs that kept him from advancing in the field. He is in P5 with the time for his 3rd run. Rick Mears must be shaking his head.

22 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 40.9791 219.624 Practiced, no attempt to qualify.

23 25 Roth, Marty D/H/F 41.1046 218.954 Practiced, no attempt to qualify.

Milka Duno did not practice.

dando
05-12-07, 08:37 PM
Under the pre 2005 IRL/Vision rules Mr. Ed, IV, and Tex Manning would all be in the field with mediocre but probably safe qualifying times. Castroneves would not be on the pole since he completed two qualification runs with the same chassis. Under the old rules the qualified car had to be withdrawn from the race before a driver could make a second run for pole or a more secure position in the field with another chassis. Now the same car gets three attempts each day, and a completed qualifying run can be "withdrawn" by the entrant. Sam "The Ovalmeister" Hornish made three complete runs with one chassis, but had major bobbles during the 2nd and 3rd runs that kept him from advancing in the field. He is in P5 with the time for his 3rd run. Rick Mears must be shaking his head.

That's Indy 2.007. You just don't get it, Pete. ;) Rumor is they may run the race 3x and average the results to determine the winner.

Thx again, :tony:. :saywhat: :shakehead

-Kevin

pchall
05-12-07, 08:40 PM
Rumor is they may run the race 3x and average the results to determine the winner.

:rofl:

First "do overs" in quals then replays until Danicle wins on average results?

pchall
05-13-07, 01:20 PM
Qualifying Day 2 1:20 PM ET

Our heroes start filling the middle of the field.

14 Carpenter, Special Ed (20) 223.495 2nd day

15 Manning, Tex (14) 223.471 2nd day

17 Unser, Jr. Al (50) 220.963 2nd day

xx Roth, Marty (25) 219.889 "bumped"

Ziggy
05-13-07, 06:19 PM
How embarrassing for Al Unser Jr.

Here is a guy with 2 CART titles, 2 Indy 500 wins, is recognized as one of the all time greats in IROC, who has won the 24 hours of Daytona and ran at the sharp in of the grid during selected NASCAR races AND been considered and tested for a front line F1 seat

to be bumped by the likes of Jon Herb..........















Is getting killed in an IRL car a proper epitath for an Indy Legend????

pchall
05-13-07, 07:25 PM
2nd Day Qualifying -- Final Results

14 20 Carpenter, Ed 223.495 2nd Day

15 [14 Manning, Tex 223.471 2nd Day

18 22 Foyt IV, AJ 222.413 2nd Day

30 50 Unser Jr, Al 220.963 2nd Day Bumped sic transit gloria Indy :(

dando
05-13-07, 08:03 PM
30 50 Unser Jr, Al 220.963 2nd Day Bumped sic transit gloria Indy :(

And that my friends if just plain, fugging pathetic. :saywhat: :shakehead

-Kevin

Wheel-Nut
05-14-07, 10:04 AM
Under the pre 2005 IRL/Vision rules . . . . .

Help me understand the new Version.

The days of "waving off" an attempt are gone?

Each car still gets 3 attempts to make the field?

Only 11 on each day? In the past didn't they usually get 20+ qualified on the first day?

How is this new version better? WTF? :shakehead

devilmaster
05-14-07, 10:18 AM
How is this new version better? WTF? :shakehead

Because Tony and Brian says it is, silly. :gomer:

Instead of one bump day, now you get three!!!!!!!!!!1!!!

Oh and btw, it has always been like this - and don't you forget it or I'll send Mikey after you and he'll blow out your eardrums with his whiney shrill.

Methanolandbrats
05-14-07, 10:22 AM
Help me understand the new Version.



How is this new version better? WTF? :shakehead The new version is designed to trick the truly stupid into believing they are watching something dramatic and interesting.

dando
05-14-07, 01:07 PM
Help me understand the new Version.

The days of "waving off" an attempt are gone?

Each car still gets 3 attempts to make the field?

Only 11 on each day? In the past didn't they usually get 20+ qualified on the first day?

How is this new version better? WTF?

Like M&B said, it's manufactured or contrived drama to create bumping. :shakehead

Oh, and each car gets three attempts per session to qualify. :saywhat:

Bump Day was stripped of any meaning years ago by field filling, and now Pole Day has been reduced to a charade. Thanks, 'king :tony:! :irked:

-Kevin

dando
05-14-07, 01:09 PM
Comment thingy on the new quals format:

http://www1.indycar.com/news/talkback.php?story_id=8850

Beware the :gomer:s. :shakehead

-Kevin

pchall
05-16-07, 04:49 PM
Wednesday 4:45 pm

Duno and Kite are the only unqualified drivers to practice so far today.

No sign of Al Unser, Jr. or Marty Roth.

Wheel-Nut
05-16-07, 06:32 PM
The bottom of the time chart looks UGLY today. Duno at 169 mph!! Kite at 204 and wall contact!!

gerhard911
05-16-07, 08:34 PM
Wednesday 4:45 pm

Duno and Kite are the only unqualified drivers to practice so far today.

Are you SURE about that ? Aren't at least half of the entrants unqualified ? :tony:

TKGAngel
05-16-07, 09:55 PM
Another Andretti slows on the backstretch...

From http://www.jayski.com


UPDATE: Two-time IndyCar Series Champion Panther Racing announced it will enter a car in the 91st Running of the Indianapolis 500 for John Andretti, who will be making his return to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway after 12-year hiatus from IndyCar racing. Andretti, who last competed in the ‘500’ in 1994, will have his #33 entry sponsored by Camping World and RVs.com. He will join new teammates Vitor Meira and Kosuke Matsuura on the historic 2.5-mile oval for practice Wednesday. Andretti’s yellow Camping World Panther Dallara Honda will attempt to qualify for the Greatest Spectacle in Racing this coming Saturday, when spots 22-33 are available.

pchall
05-16-07, 10:36 PM
Another Andretti slows on the backstretch...


Hauled off the NASCAR refuse heap and dumped into one of John Barnes' cars.

Methanolandbrats
05-17-07, 09:53 AM
Not a lot of brain cells firing in the Andretti Family. They've almost entered their entire family in a high speed demolition derby. Have fun passing Milka on the high side fellas.

extramundane
05-17-07, 12:22 PM
How long 'til they dredge up Jeff Andretti and stick him in a Foyt car? I can't wait to hear all about the synergy of Foyt, Unser & Andretti coming together in one big superawesometeam. :tony:

Methanolandbrats
05-17-07, 12:39 PM
How long 'til they dredge up Jeff Andretti and stick him in a Foyt car? I can't wait to hear all about the synergy of Foyt, Unser & Andretti coming together in one big superawesometeam. :tony: Jeff is the smart one, no way he'll do that.

extramundane
05-17-07, 01:51 PM
Jeff is the smart one, no way he'll do that.

Everyone thought Mario was the smart one, but that didn't stop him from Flying Wallenda-ing a crapsled during Indy practice.

Methanolandbrats
05-17-07, 02:10 PM
Everyone thought Mario was the smart one, but that didn't stop him from Flying Wallenda-ing a crapsled during Indy practice.
Ya, but Jeff already tasted the downside of Indy. Since Mario landed helmet up, maybe they can talk him into filling the field.

Spicoli
05-17-07, 03:17 PM
Can Stephan Gregwoire play too?

http://i1.tinypic.com/4r098v9.jpg

:gomer:

Fio1
05-17-07, 03:42 PM
After her crash, Milka Dunno is going way slower then she did during her first day at the track. Talk about taking two steeps backwards. Even in Grand-Am she is known for mysteriously doing worse the next day for no apparent reason.

What will be slowest qualified speed this year? I predict 211 something.....:shakehead :rolleyes: :thumdown:

pchall
05-17-07, 04:05 PM
Where's Adam Andretti these days? He actually won a US F3 "series" race at one time. Doesn't that make him more qualified than most of the field? :laugh:

Wheel-Nut
05-17-07, 04:21 PM
Where's Adam Andretti these days? He actually won a US F3 "series" race at one time. Doesn't that make him more qualified than most of the field? :laugh:

A couple of years ago myself and T7 went and participated in one of those Mazda Rev it Up deals. Adam was one of the driver coaches!! He was doing some low level NASCAR thing at the time.

JLMannin
05-17-07, 04:42 PM
After her crash, Milka Dunno is going way slower then she did during her first day at the track. Talk about taking two steeps backwards. Even in Grand-Am she is known for mysteriously doing worse the next day for no apparent reason.

What will be slowest qualified speed this year? I predict 211 something.....:shakehead :rolleyes: :thumdown:

I predict a "promotors choice" with no time/no speed. If these guys keep running out of talent and chrashing before field filling day, there may not be enough cars to go around for the helmet carring has-beens to fill the field.

Dennis Vitolo could go faster than Milka and Kite, and that is b-a-a-a-d.

pchall
05-17-07, 04:49 PM
Update on Gregoire's classic gearbox first wall hit.


Stephan Gregoire was taken to a hospital Thursday after his car crashed during practice for the Indianapolis 500.

Gregoire’s injuries were not believed to be serious, but Chastain Motorsports officials said he was undergoing precautionary CAT scans of his neck and back.

Gregoire was third-fastest of the session when his No. 77 Chastain Motorsports Panoz-Honda spun and crashed shortly after 1 p.m. He walked from the car and appeared to be unhurt. The car, which struck the wall with the rear end, sustained moderate damage.

Gregoire is expected to return to the track later Thursday if his injuries aren’t deemed serious, team officials said.

SpeedTV.com will have more details as they become available.

Fio1
05-17-07, 06:28 PM
You guys know that TG's Mom is the one sponsoring Gregiore right? She has been for some time now. I have no idea why....:rolleyes: Nice guy Gregiore, extremely nice, but not very good.

I'm sure PJ Chasson, Alex Barron, Richie Hearns, Billy Boat, Filipe Giafone, Airtone Dare and Robby McGhee will end up behind the wheel of something to fill the field. What ever happened to that Japanese guy that was pretty decent, that always showed up on the last day?

Fio1
05-17-07, 06:32 PM
A couple of years ago myself and T7 went and participated in one of those Mazda Rev it Up deals. Adam was one of the driver coaches!! He was doing some low level NASCAR thing at the time.

Jeff Andretti was also doing that too.

pchall
05-17-07, 07:47 PM
Practice Day 8

3 14 Manning, Darren D/H/F 41.0741 219.116 22 33

5 20 Carpenter, Ed D/H/F 41.2853 217.995 4 43

7 22 Foyt IV, AJ D/H/F 41.3047 217.893 36 40

10 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 41.3621 217.590 42 44

14 33 Andretti, John D/H/F 41.5250 216.737 60 67

19 25 Roth, Marty D/H/F 41.7635 215.499 23 23
20 23 Duno, Milka D/H/F 42.1624 213.460 55 61

Ziggy
05-18-07, 09:00 AM
Give Billy Boat some credit, he's not that stupid

A little backround, Boat bought his own Indy Lights car and actually took part in a few Indy Lights races in order to gain some rear engine experience. He realized he did not have enough cash, nor did he attract anybody else's cash, so he went back to what he did best, which was run Midgets and Sprints.

When the split came, for him it was an oppertunity to drive rear engine cars for little cash outlay. He didn't suck that bad, and didn't prang a bunch of cars.

All the while, he was working behind the scenes to build a business, which today is extrememly successful.

tllips
05-18-07, 10:35 AM
Update on Gregoire's classic gearbox first wall hit.

Quote:
Stephan Gregoire was taken to a hospital Thursday after his car crashed during practice for the Indianapolis 500.

Gregoire’s injuries were not believed to be serious, but Chastain Motorsports officials said he was undergoing precautionary CAT scans of his neck and back.

Gregoire was third-fastest of the session when his No. 77 Chastain Motorsports Panoz-Honda spun and crashed shortly after 1 p.m. He walked from the car and appeared to be unhurt. The car, which struck the wall with the rear end, sustained moderate damage.

Gregoire is expected to return to the track later Thursday if his injuries aren’t deemed serious, team officials said.

SpeedTV.com will have more details as they become available.



This mornings Chicago Tribune had a blurb that he has a cracked vertabra, but it had not been determined if he can race. Sorry no link, it was in the hard copy paper. (and I'm paraphrasing)

Wheel-Nut
05-18-07, 11:41 AM
The futility is going to have a banner crop this year.

Larry to the 41

Spicoli
05-18-07, 12:32 PM
The futility is going to have a banner crop this year.

Larry to the 41


i just saw that. This is ****ing epic. :rofl:

thios almost makes me want to go see this trainwreck. :tony:

dando
05-18-07, 12:54 PM
i just saw that. This is ****ing epic. :rofl:

thios almost makes me want to go see this trainwreck. :tony:

In that case, ya better wear a helmet. :shakehead :saywhat:

-Kevin

pchall
05-18-07, 07:51 PM
Practice Day 9

1 (6T) Sham Hornish 225.006

9 (33) John Andretti 222.830

11 (20) Mr. Ed 222.350

14 (25) Marty Roth 221.794

21 (14) Tex Manning 220.572

23 (50) Al Unser, Jr. 220.344

dando
05-18-07, 08:09 PM
Practice Day 9

1 (6T) Sham Hornish 225.006

9 (33) John Andretti 222.830

11 (20) Mr. Ed 222.350

14 (25) Marty Roth 221.794

21 (14) Tex Manning 220.572

23 (50) Al Unser, Jr. 220.344
:saywhat:

-Kevin

theunions
05-19-07, 03:13 AM
What ever happened to that Japanese guy that was pretty decent, that always showed up on the last day?

Good question (Hideshi Matsuda) - he hit the wall more frequently than usual in 2000 and hasn't been back since in any capacity...

pchall
05-19-07, 06:50 AM
Good question (Hideshi Matsuda) - he hit the wall more frequently than usual in 2000 and hasn't been back since in any capacity...


Matsuda was the Japanese Patrick Bedard.

Indy
05-19-07, 11:30 AM
i just saw that. This is ****ing epic. :rofl:

thios almost makes me want to go see this trainwreck. :tony:

You got tikkies? I need some comedy in my life right now.

Spicoli
05-19-07, 06:36 PM
You got tikkies? I need some comedy in my life right now.

F no. I'm going to spend the day on the boat with Ripped. Wanna come? We can listen and laff.

pchall
05-19-07, 08:24 PM
Practice Day 10/Qualifying Day 3

25 (50) Al Unser, Jr. 220.876

29 (23) Milka Duno 219.228
30 (25) Marty Roth 218.922

32 (18) Mr. Kite 214.528

One spot still available for TBA.

JohnHKart
05-19-07, 08:28 PM
Jeff Andretti was also doing that too.


Yes, I met him there, I immediately recognized him and chatted with him about seeing Michael's last win at Long Beach. He was a nice guy.

John

Methanolandbrats
05-19-07, 08:34 PM
Give Billy Boat some credit, he's not that stupid

A little backround, Boat bought his own Indy Lights car and actually took part in a few Indy Lights races in order to gain some rear engine experience. He realized he did not have enough cash, nor did he attract anybody else's cash, so he went back to what he did best, which was run Midgets and Sprints.

When the split came, for him it was an oppertunity to drive rear engine cars for little cash outlay. He didn't suck that bad, and didn't prang a bunch of cars.

All the while, he was working behind the scenes to build a business, which today is extrememly successful. A very good description of why the IRL sucks.

Fio1
05-20-07, 04:22 AM
Matsuda was the Japanese Patrick Bedard.

Except he actually could drive!:thumbup:

Methanolandbrats
05-20-07, 07:34 AM
Originally Posted by pchall
Matsuda was the Japanese Patrick Bedard.


Except he actually could drive!:thumbup:

He's probably a better writer too.

cart7
05-20-07, 09:30 AM
A very good description of why the IRL sucks.

Actually, no it isn't.

If you bought into the vision, circa 1994-1996 Billy Boat is exactly what was needed to fix everything that was wrong with Indycar racing.

Jeffy couldn't get into Indycars. :cry:

The little guys were being priced out of racing :cry:

Lack of American flavored short track racing hero's. :cry:

Street races and foreign road racers making up too much of the mix. :cry:

Had the IRL actually been the answer to fixing what was wrong with CART*, the IRL would've taken off in popularity, sponsors galore would've come a callin and guys like Stewart, Kahne or Yeley would be running at the brickyard in May, not August. But it wasn't, if failed and when Toyota and Honda knocked on the door Tony threw guys like Boat under the bus along with some other founding teams and fans.


*I'm not suggesting that CART was broken but it did have some problems that needed to be addressed. Tweaking would be better verbage than fixing. Fixing implies there was something broken to begin with, which there wasn't.

dando
05-20-07, 11:56 AM
One spot still available for TBF.

Fixed that post for ya, Pete. :tony: :saywhat:

-Kevin

pchall
05-20-07, 03:33 PM
Bump Day

3 pm ET

Richie Hearn has filled the field and Mr. Kite is on the bubble.

32 (91) Richie Hearn 219.860

pchall
05-20-07, 03:51 PM
Bump Day

3:48pm ET

Phil Giebler puts Mr. Kite out of his misery.

(31) Phil Giebler 219.637

Faster than Milka and Marty, too.

Pupo on the bubble.

Methanolandbrats
05-20-07, 05:20 PM
Bump Day

3:48pm ET

Phil Giebler puts Mr. Kite out of his misery.

(31) Phil Giebler 219.637

Faster than Milka and Marty, too.

Pupo on the bubble. How can you watch that crap? 60 seconds of Scott Goodyear is more torture than most humans can endure.

pchall
05-20-07, 05:25 PM
How can you watch that crap? 60 seconds of Scott Goodyear is more torture than most humans can endure.

I just keep IRL T&S running in the backgroud while I work a bit in the afternoon.


Meanwhile

Chastain withdrew yesterday's qualifying time and sent Moreno back out to (77) Roberto Moreno P/H/F 220.299 Not bad for for an old man in a crappy IRL Panoz/G-Farce.

(91) Richie Hearn D/H/F 219.860

Our Canuckian Futility Hero is on the bubble at 5:33 pm ET.

B3RACER1a
05-20-07, 05:39 PM
PJ Jones and team decides they dont have the speed and are going to try agian next year.

So really no bumping on bump day. Jones anf Kite way too far off to even think about making it. Gotta love Honda saying you cant practice because its a leased engine. :tony:

TKGAngel
05-20-07, 05:50 PM
Can someone tell me if I heard this right?

The engine lasts 1,000 miles. Teams that qualify on the second weekend must subtract 500 miles from that total for the race, meaning that they have 500 miles for practice/qualies. Does this mean that teams that qualified last weekend have that 1,000 miles to use as they please and can put in another engine?

Trying to figure out Indy this year is making my head hurt.

pchall
05-20-07, 05:52 PM
Kite is going out for a forelorn hope run just before the gun. His best practice speed is still 5 mph short of bumping Marty.

Kite had nothing. All he managed was a bit more camera time on whatever high number cable outlet ABC dumped late afternoon qualies to for the NBA.

Chief
05-20-07, 06:09 PM
The tears welling in my eyes over one of the greatest ever at the speedway not making the field....Jimmy Kite SUCKS and so does this BS bumpo crap. He's a 4th rate indyloper.

INDY has had another shovel of dirt tossed on it's grave today. PaTHETiC, AMplIFyireD.

B3RACER1a
05-20-07, 06:13 PM
They keep reminding us of the 'drama of Indy". Yeah, it WAS dramatic 15 years ago. You dont have to keep reminding us how dramatic it was then because it was self explanatory.

Don Quixote
05-20-07, 06:27 PM
Yeah. there were literally tens of fans pulling for Jimmy, but alas, he didn't have the car to pull it off. I can't believe all these gomers pretending that this is the same I500 that we all grew up with. This will never get better until somebody admits that there is a problem. :tony: :saywhat:

cart7
05-20-07, 06:41 PM
Can someone tell me if I heard this right?

The engine lasts 1,000 miles. Teams that qualify on the second weekend must subtract 500 miles from that total for the race, meaning that they have 500 miles for practice/qualies. Does this mean that teams that qualified last weekend have that 1,000 miles to use as they please and can put in another engine?

Trying to figure out Indy this year is making my head hurt.

I love the part where they were saying they only had 7.5 miles of practice time left. All part of their very special lease deal from Honda. :laugh:

Yep, Leo and Tony warned us about this, good thing they formed that racing league to keep it from happening. :saywhat:

Spicoli
05-20-07, 07:13 PM
Yeah. there were literally tens of fans pulling for Jimmy, but alas, he didn't have the car to pull it off. I can't believe all these gomers pretending that this is the same I500 that we all grew up with. This will never get better until somebody admits that there is a problem. :tony: :saywhat:

Paul D (I expect that would stand for dumbass today) supposedly mortgaged his house among other things, just to get "the best driver at Indy" in "the show".

Sort of ironic that super-sub made it. PDM didn't.

cart7
05-20-07, 08:07 PM
Paul D (I expect that would stand for dumbass today) supposedly mortgaged his house among other things, just to get "the best driver at Indy" in "the show".

Sort of ironic that super-sub made it. PDM didn't.

Yeah, what was up with that "One of the greatest drivers of all time at Indy"?

WTF, You're getting Rick Mears to sit in your sled Paul?

I doubt that even Kite was buying into that load of hooey.

Chief
05-20-07, 08:54 PM
Oh my, Jimmy Kite. Today you saw Gomer pride stomped upon again...the once great experiment called the IRL that promised to bring forth sprint car youth and revitalize the 500 with a grass roots approach was beaten down again, this time by an ageless Roberto Moreno.

Special futility nomination goes out to the old lady who was so weak she couldn't pull the track pistol trigger to end the fill day fiasco on time today at Indy. After 3 reloads and a bit of encouragement the gun finally fired at 6:01PM. I'm getting embarassed to even admit I WAS a fan of Indy once. Keep up the great work Tony!

Rogue Leader
05-20-07, 11:26 PM
The tears welling in my eyes over one of the greatest ever at the speedway not making the field....Jimmy Kite SUCKS and so does this BS bumpo crap. He's a 4th rate indyloper.

INDY has had another shovel of dirt tossed on it's grave today. PaTHETiC, AMplIFyireD.



Yep it was even more exciting than when Team Penske didn't make the show.... :rolleyes:

ferrarigod
05-21-07, 02:25 AM
wait. so jimmy kite got bumped by someone for his 214mph lap. But on ESPN he made the field.

who actually got bumped? Did anyone that tried not get into the show? Isn't that what a real bump is?

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/grid?raceId=20070527106&seriesId=1

someone buy me a clue.

ferrarigod
05-21-07, 03:13 AM
Starting Grid
POS DRIVER CAR MANUFACTURER SPEED
1 Helio Castroneves 3 Honda 225.817 mph
2 Tony Kanaan 11 Honda 225.757 mph
3 Dario Franchitti 27 Honda 225.191 mph
4 Scott Dixon 9 Honda 225.122 mph
5 Sam Hornish Jr 6 Honda 225.109 mph
6 Dan Wheldon 10 Honda 224.641 mph
7 Ryan Briscoe 12 Honda 224.410 mph
8 Danica Patrick 7 Honda 224.076 mph
9 Marco Andretti 26 Honda 223.299 mph
10 Tomas Scheckter 2 Honda 222.877 mph
11 Michael Andretti 39 Honda 222.789 mph
12 Scott Sharp 8 Honda 223.875 mph
13 Jeff Simmons 17 Honda 223.693 mph
14 Ed Carpenter 20 Honda 223.495 mph
15 Darren Manning 14 Honda 223.471 mph
16 Buddy Rice 15 Honda 222.826 mph
17 Kosuke Matsuura 55 Honda 222.595 mph
18 A.J. Foyt IV 22 Honda 222.413 mph
19 Vitor Meira 4 Honda 222.333 mph
20 Davey Hamilton 02 Honda 222.327 mph
21 Sarah Fisher 5 Honda 221.960 mph
22 Buddy Lazier 99 Honda 221.380 mph
23 Roger Yasukawa 24 Honda 222.654 mph
24 John Andretti 33 Honda 221.756 mph
25 Al Unser Jr 50 Honda 220.876 mph
26 Alex Barron 98 Honda 220.471 mph
27 Jon Herb 19 Honda 220.108 mph
28 Jaques Lazier 21 Honda 219.409 mph
29 Milka Duno 23 Honda 219.228 mph
30 Marty Roth 25 Honda 218.922 mph
31 Roberto Moreno 77 Honda 220.299 mph
32 Jimmy Kite 18 Honda 214.528 mph
32 Richie Hearn 91 Honda 219.860 mph
33 Phil Giebler 31 Honda 219.637 mph

wtf is going on?

Ziggy
05-21-07, 07:30 AM
You dont need to read any further than position seven anyhow.........

pchall
05-21-07, 09:56 AM
Starting Grid
POS DRIVER CAR MANUFACTURER SPEED

31 Roberto Moreno 77 Honda 220.299 mph
32 Jimmy Kite 18 Honda 214.528 mph
32 Richie Hearn 91 Honda 219.860 mph
33 Phil Giebler 31 Honda 219.637 mph

wtf is going on?

:tony: did the cut & paste for the final grid. :gomer:

Somebody forgot to edit out Mr. Kite because they can't have four cars in Row 11. Giebler bumped him. The only "traditional" bump of the Month of May.

Andrew Longman
05-21-07, 10:25 AM
So how many cars that were entered (not T cars) didn't even make an attempt?

Only article in the Star Ledger on Bump Day was about how Jersey embarassment Chesson was wandering the garage looking for a ride. Plenty of ride to be had if only he had more money.

If Indy is so grand why are the sponsors so shy?

I watched for the last 20 minutes yesterday. I literally saw maybe 10 people in the stands, but I heard the radio comments to Roth saying he would get better TV coverage if he got out of the car and walked down to Kite and asked if he was going to run. Pathetic.:(

Don Quixote
05-21-07, 11:17 AM
I'm just glad that the broadcast partner puts telemetry graphics on the screen for those of us who couldn't guess that the throttle on every car is 100% all the way around the track. :thumbup:

Chief
05-21-07, 01:28 PM
I'm just glad that the broadcast partner puts telemetry graphics on the screen for those of us who couldn't guess that the throttle on every car is 100% all the way around the track. :thumbup:
And, Bobby More tossed out an innocent dig too....he had to get used to driving "flat" around there because when he last drove Indy he had to lift...:D

pchall
05-25-07, 04:10 PM
No Carburettors Day

Our heroes practice their Futility one last time before the show.

1 11 Kanaan, Tony D/H/F 39.9171 225.467 13 24

12 14 Manning, Tex D/H/F 40.4683 222.396 19 19

16 20 Special Ed D/H/F 40.6079 221.632 3 18

23 22 Foyt IV, AJ D/H/F 40.9240 219.920 13 19

28 25 Roth, Marty D/H/F 41.2403 218.233 6 37

31 50 Unser Jr, Al D/H/F 41.4445 217.158 15 26

33 23 Duno, Milka D/H/F 42.5214 211.658 5 32

cameraman
05-25-07, 08:03 PM
Am I reading those numbers right?

Duno turned 32 laps, her fastest was lap 5 and it was a 211:eek:

Don Quixote
05-25-07, 08:11 PM
Am I reading those numbers right?

Duno turned 32 laps, her fastest was lap 5 and it was a 211:eek:
She was working on race setups. :p

opinionated ow
05-25-07, 08:12 PM
i hope briscoe wins it. just so he can show the world of earl that he is far from s@$(.

pchall
05-25-07, 08:24 PM
Am I reading those numbers right?

Duno turned 32 laps, her fastest was lap 5 and it was a 211:eek:


Probably trying to find a comfort zone where she won't be blackflagged by Lap 20.