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pchall
04-30-03, 01:27 PM
Anyone in St. Louis have a notion about this?


http://www.1904stl.com/events.html


Check the whole list of events.

RaceGrrl
04-30-03, 01:31 PM
That's quite a hint.

JoeBob
04-30-03, 01:40 PM
Wasn't negotiating with Dover Downs about races in St. Louis and Nashville part of CART's deal with them to hire Chris Pook?

pchall
04-30-03, 01:43 PM
Ding, ding. We have a partial winner visiting from the dark side.

rabbit
04-30-03, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by RaceGrrl
That's quite a hint. Pretty darn subtle, ain't it? :)

rabbit
04-30-03, 01:53 PM
Here's a map of the park...
http://www.slfp.com/110102/FPFEMap2003.jpg

And info on the park...
http://www.slfp.com/ForestPark.html

Looks pretty :cool:.

cart7
04-30-03, 02:45 PM
Uhhh.. I'm from St.Louis, 18 miles so. of Downtown, and I haven't heard a peep about this. I e-mailed the gal on the Worlds Fair web-site to offer myself as a volunteer(and get any lowdown I can on the race to pass on ;) ) The park has been undergoing extensive renovations the last 3 years or so. It's actually a beautiful park and the St. Louis Zoo is world class. As good as San Diego's. Without knowing the course layout, this could be a very undulating track or relatively flat. I'll let you guys know what's up if I hear anything else.

Chief
04-30-03, 03:17 PM
Excellent investigative work pchall! 12 Horse in the mail!

IlliniRacer
04-30-03, 03:51 PM
I live 18 miles in the other direction of cart7 and work downtown. This is the first I have heard of it. Even with the rennovations, I don't see how the roads in Forrest Park will be wide enough.

devilmaster
04-30-03, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Chief
Excellent investigative work pchall! 12 Horse in the mail!

Uh-Oh. Here we go with Sarah again..... :laugh:

Steve

RaceGrrl
04-30-03, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by devilmaster
Uh-Oh. Here we go with Sarah again..... :laugh:

Steve

I had nothing to do with this one!

damiandoan
04-30-03, 05:51 PM
hmmm, looking closely at the map, as I always do, ;) , I noticed that in the middle there is a mark for:

World Fair Pavilion
(Race HQ)

And just a little left and up from that there is a mark for 'finish'?

Something tells me this has nothing to do with ChampCar...

DD

Gurneyflap
04-30-03, 06:14 PM
Yes. As you can see it's only going to be a 1 lap race.

mapguy
04-30-03, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Gurneyflap
Yes. As you can see it's only going to be a 1 lap race.

No comment!

;)

cart7
04-30-03, 07:13 PM
originally posted by IlliniRacer
I live 18 miles in the other direction of cart7 and work downtown. This is the first I have heard of it. Even with the rennovations, I don't see how the roads in Forrest Park will be wide enough.

Yep, most of the roads through there are two lane affairs with some serious curbing. I haven't been through the park the last 2 years other than to go to the zoo or the art museum. Everything else was pretty torn up. Parking is another issue. I hope to hear back from that gal and will pass on the information.

pchall
04-30-03, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by rabbit
Here's a map of the park...
http://www.slfp.com/110102/FPFEMap2003.jpg

And info on the park...
http://www.slfp.com/ForestPark.html

Looks pretty :cool:.

Compare the above to this build plan for the park:

http://stlouis.missouri.org/government/docs/forestpark/images/FPMap.jpg

There's a race track in there somewhere...

cart7
05-22-03, 12:45 PM
I decided to call Cart today and try and confirm this. This, after repeated E-mail attempts to the 1904 committee and Cart which have been ignored.

The gal at Cart confirmed that she was aware that Cart was in negotiations with the city to have a race. She would not comment nor new anything further as to whether the race was in the park or downtown(I have a feeling if there is a race, it will be downtown). She said that when the races are in the planning stages, they don't comment on them. She also found it unusual for the 1904 fair organizers to be posting the race as an event that's going to happen when it isn't finalized.

Those of you attending the Cleveland town hall may want to try and get Pook to speak on this.

FLCARTfan
05-22-03, 01:45 PM
I went to grad school in Saint Louis and loved that city. ANY race there would be cool as it would give me an excuse to go back.

RaceGrrl
05-22-03, 02:06 PM
cart7, thanks for calling and checking on this. :thumbup:

pchall
05-22-03, 02:22 PM
Good to see this one is alive.

Good place for a race.

chop456
05-22-03, 02:41 PM
I'm so sick of hearing about downforce and how at a given speed, a champcar could drive upside down on the ceiling.

It's time for Kendall to shut his piehole and do a loop-the-loop on the St. Louis arch.

Imagine the publicity. ;)

Spicoli
05-22-03, 02:51 PM
St. Louis would be cool. 5 hour drive. Make that 4 hour drive.