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skaven
09-01-06, 05:17 PM
Here's hoping Simon Pagenaud can hold off Graham for the title and the $2M. :thumbup:

He has a 12 point lead with one race left.

Only reason I say this is that it appears that Graham will have a ride with NH as they might have a real, paying sponsor lined up for him. If that's the case, he'll be in a DP01 regardless.

Besides, with all the cars that Team Australia has wadded up this year, they could use the money... and I really like Derek Walker. :)

Lizzerd
09-01-06, 06:35 PM
Agreed. 100%. :thumbup:

Even if Graham has to bring money without the $2M, Daddy will give it to him.

Insomniac
09-01-06, 07:47 PM
I agree, but just wish it wasn't Bourdais' protege (for no other reason than Bourdais annoys me). Although, it will be one more driver to fight with PT with a helmet on after Nelsonmania.

Jayblues
09-01-06, 10:36 PM
Here's hoping Simon Pagenaud can hold off Graham for the title and the $2M. :thumbup:

He has a 12 point lead with one race left.

Only reason I say this is that it appears that Graham will have a ride with NH as they might have a real, paying sponsor lined up for him. If that's the case, he'll be in a DP01 regardless.

Besides, with all the cars that Team Australia has wadded up this year, they could use the money... and I really like Derek Walker. :)

i think its a strech to assume TA would run him next year, i think they have a shot but Pagenaud is "renting" TA to run Atlantics and im sure he will have plenty of teams intertested in running him in CC when he brings large funds.

FYI Gore did not put any money into Davison, he had to bring his own money. Im sure Panenaud is on the same program. Almost all the Atlantic guys are pay to play; anyone want to guess how much a seat in a Forsythe Atlantic car is?

skaven
09-02-06, 12:53 AM
Although, it will be one more driver to fight with PT with a helmet on after Nelsonmania.

Double :rofl:

Four on one, they might stand a chance. :D

skaven
09-02-06, 12:55 AM
Interesting comments Jayblues. :thumbup:

Guess = $750,000... more?

Who exactly gets the cash, the team or the driver? I wonder what kind of strings are attached... if Pagenaud is paying to play, he must have a provision for a share of the earnings?

Jayblues
09-02-06, 02:12 AM
Interesting comments Jayblues. :thumbup:

Guess = $750,000... more?

Who exactly gets the cash, the team or the driver? I wonder what kind of strings are attached... if Pagenaud is paying to play, he must have a provision for a share of the earnings?


nice guess i think

NismoZ
09-02-06, 09:02 AM
I believe the driver gets the prize but it must be spent in house (CC) and I assume with a team of his own choosing. Haas was early to provide a top candidate with a test, big prize or not, but any team would rather have both. I sincerely hope CC has room for these two (and more) on the grid next season regardless of what happens at RA. :thumbup:

Easy
09-05-06, 10:20 AM
$750k is on the low end for Atlantics. Maybe they can get it through the economies of scale with 4 cars and Forsythe not using it as a profit center.

Dr. Corkski
09-05-06, 02:53 PM
$750k is on the low end for Atlantics. Maybe they can get it through the economies of scale with 4 cars and Forsythe not using it as a profit center.I think my favorite pre-TCgate post at ccf was when GPR essentially called James Hinchcliff a liar for saying exactly what you said. Because you know a groupie would know more about costs than a participant.

Ankf00
09-05-06, 04:07 PM
"UCLA is in the top 3 for every single recruit in the United States" :laugh:

Easy
09-05-06, 05:35 PM
I think my favorite pre-TCgate post at ccf was when GPR essentially called James Hinchcliff a liar for saying exactly what you said. Because you know a groupie would know more about costs than a participant.

Yeah, I know its only $500k this year and it was $1,000,000 last year. :tony:

(tony gomer is awesome)

I saw two budgets at over $800,000. This is without all the added costs that spring up with a brand new package, like cracking engine blocks and I really doubt Cosworth will eat that.

I'm sure you could show up to every race for around $500k (with car purchase) but you're not going to get near the guys who are on the 7 post rig constantly and have full data and the capability to do something with it.

I still feel that for the long term they did the wrong thing with the new Atlantic formula. I see them eventually falling back to $1,000,000 budgets and 15 car grids like in 2002-2003.

FCYTravis
09-07-06, 02:03 PM
I saw two budgets at over $800,000. This is without all the added costs that spring up with a brand new package, like cracking engine blocks and I really doubt Cosworth will eat that.
Don't forget the classic Swift markup on replacement parts.

"You mean you wiped the side off the car? Yeah, OK, just send your firstborn child over here and we'll get you what you need right away..."

oddlycalm
09-07-06, 02:32 PM
Don't forget the classic Swift markup on replacement parts. So you're saying that CCWS didn't negotiate the parts prices to a reasonable level with Swift as they have with Panoz on the DP01? Seems uncharacteristic.

oc

FCYTravis
09-07-06, 07:35 PM
It would also be uncharacteristic for Swift to sell any replacement parts at a reasonable cost :)

Remember, they're the ones who started putting RFID chips in every part they made and having officials walk around the paddock with scanners... if a team decided they wanted to save some money by fabbing their own body panels - say, a sidepod cover - they'd get fined and disqualified.

JT265
09-08-06, 07:44 AM
It would also be uncharacteristic for Swift to sell any replacement parts at a reasonable cost :)

Remember, they're the ones who started putting RFID chips in every part they made and having officials walk around the paddock with scanners... if a team decided they wanted to save some money by fabbing their own body panels - say, a sidepod cover - they'd get fined and disqualified.


Indeed they did. Carl never needed a full blown 18-wheeler to bring spares to a track, it's only function is to haul bags of money back to Illinois.

skaven
09-08-06, 11:37 AM
Indeed they did. Carl never needed a full blown 18-wheeler to bring spares to a track, it's only function is to haul bags of money back to Illinois.

:rofl:

I tried to explain the Carl Haas trailer to my client at the Denver GP... but my explanation wasn't as to the point nor half as funny. :thumbup:

Spicoli
09-20-06, 07:57 PM
rom: Merrill Cain
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:46 PM
To: M Cain (merrillcain@yahoo.com)
Subject: Champ Car Atlantic Road America Preview

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: Merrill Cain, Champ Car Atlantic Communications Director, (586) 630-1474



TITLE, $2 MILLION AND MORE ON THE LINE AS CHAMP CAR ATLANTIC CHAMPIONSHIP CONCLUDES 2006 SEASON AT ROAD AMERICA



INDIANAPOLIS (September 20, 2006) – Championship Week has finally arrived for the 2006 Yokohama Presents the Champ Car Atlantic Championship Powered by Mazda and in the 33-year history of Atlantic competition three days of racing has never been more anticipated nor carried more significance.



Not much will be on the line this weekend at the Gehl Champ Car Atlantic Championship Finale at Road America (tape-delayed on SPEED at 5 p.m. ET on Sunday, October 8), just one of the closest championship battles in series history, an unprecedented $2 million prize for the title-winner to use in securing a Champ Car ride in 2007 and the final finishing order and fight for prize money among some of the world’s top rising open-wheel racing stars. No, definitely not your average race weekend.



Much will be decided this Friday-Sunday, September 22-24, as the young guns of the ’06 Atlantic Championship tackle both the longest and fastest course on the 12-race series calendar at the majestic 4.048-mile Road America road circuit in Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin. And while most eyes will be at the front of the pack, tracking the epic battle for the series championship and the accompanying $2 million prize between series leader Simon Pagenaud (#15 Team Australia/Location U/Cons. Gen. Vienne) and title contender Graham Rahal (#18 Gehl Company), pride and much more will also be at stake as the rest of the expected 23-car Atlantic field gets one more opportunity to shine in one of motorsport’s most competitive racing series.



After an intense 11-race summer schedule set the stage for the final showdown of the season, Atlantic competitors have had to wait for nearly a month to tangle wheel-to-wheel in their Mazda-Cosworth/Swift/Yokohama machines. But now that the season finale is here, expect an exciting and action-packed weekend of racing.



For the third consecutive season, the Atlantic series crown will be decided by two drivers in the last race of the year. Pagenaud and Rahal have taken different routes to the final round, but one of them will walk away as series champion on Sunday. Pagenaud’s relentless consistency this season has given him a 12-point in the standings (253-241) entering the weekend. The Team Australia French rookie has only one win and one pole to his credit but he’s earned six podium results and has finished among the top five in an incredible nine of 11 races. He knows what he needs to do in order to claim the crown – simply finish ahead of Rahal. But if he just earns a top-three finish in his first-ever visit to Road America he can also secure the title, no matter what Rahal does. If Pagenaud can’t manage to finish on the podium or finish ahead of Rahal, well, there are a lot of other scenarios that could play out (see championship breakdown online at www.champcaratlantic.com), but the 22-year-old wants to control his own destiny and proudly bring his team a title in its first year of Atlantic action.



While Pagenaud has quietly worked his way to the front, Rahal has made a late championship charge in spectacular fashion. The 17-year-old son of racing icon Bobby Rahal, who’s coming of an impressive two-day Champ Car test with the defending champion Newman/Haas Racing team last week, leads the series with five wins and four poles and he’s captured the last two straight races to put pressure on Pagenaud. After sweeping all available points at Denver in Round 10, Rahal came from third place to edge Pagenaud by .073-of-a-second last round in Montreal for the closest finish in the history of the Atlantic series. The New Albany, Ohio native will need to summon another dominant weekend in order to try and steal the crown from his championship rival at the Elkhart Lake circuit. Rahal at least has experience on his side. While Pagenaud has never raced at Road America, Rahal has competed at the circuit where his famous father raced in each of the last two seasons.



Aside from the battle for the series brass ring, competitors throughout the Atlantic lineup will be battling for finishing position this weekend. After starting the year perfect, winning the first two events of ’06, Germany’s Andreas Wirth (#37 INDECK/Layer 7/Wirth Solar) has fallen on hard times late in the year. The Forsythe Racing driver has finished 12th or worse in four of the last six races to fall out title contention. He hopes to hold on and finish third in the standings after Road America, the site of a late-season crash last year that forced Wirth to miss the last two races of the season.



Raphael Matos (#6 ProWorks), on the other hand, has come on of late. He’s finished among the top two in two of the last events to elevate his standing to fourth in the championship. The Brazilian Sierra Sierra Enterprises racer, who finished on the podium at Road America in each of the two seasons in other racing series, will be looking for a strong finish to 2006 with another top-five run on Sunday. Mexico’s David Martinez (#4 Sub-Hub) also has a strong history at Elkhart Lake. Currently fifth in the standings, Martinez was third last year in the Atlantic race at Road America. He hopes to guide his US RaceTronics entry to another impressive finish at the venue this weekend.



After scoring his first Atlantic pole and a podium finish at Montreal last month, Canadian James Hinchcliffe (#3 Emexis/INDECK) will also be looking end the year on an up note. Hinchcliffe has earned his share of success in Elkhart Lake in the past, posting a pole and his first Formula BMW USA win at the track in 2004 before coming from third place to claim victory in Star Mazda at Road America last season. He aims for similar success with Forsythe Racing Sunday.



Brazil’s Danilo Dirani (#1 Canary Fund/Funcional Card/Sala Design/Perkons) of Condor Motorsports has been a steady top-10 runner all season long and he hopes to improve on his sixth-place standing in the series after his first race at Road America this weekend. American Jonathan Bomarito (#23 Miracle Sealants/Dynacor) has fallen to seventh in the championship after some recent bad luck for PR1 Motorsports and he also will be making his first Atlantic start at Road America after seeing some sports car and FF2000 experience at the track in the past.



Last season, Alan Sciuto (#12 Sealy/PKV Racing/The RoomStore of Phoenix/WS Deans) made his Road America debut by finishing seventh in the Atlantic event. He will be looking for event better results this weekend for Polestar Racing Group. Sciuto’s new teammate at Polestar, Antoine Bessette (#21 The RoomStore of Phoenix), also drove in the ’05 Atlantic race at Road America for the team. After battling for a spot in the top three, contact forced Bessette out of action late in the race. He rejoins the Polestar team this weekend after competing for two other teams this season.



After finishing second to Hinchcliffe by just .347-of-a-second in last season’s Star Mazda race at Road America, Robbie Pecorari (#28 Western Union/USA Today/Gelles Racing) of Gelles Racing will make his first Atlantic start at the long road course. Forsythe Racing’s Leonardo Maia (#7 Layer 7/INDECK) will also see his first series action at the venue after winning from the pole in the 2002 Barber Dodge Pro Series race at the circuit.



Americans Joe D’Agostino (#35 Newman Wachs Racing) and Colin Fleming (#14 eSoles/King Taco/Gelles Racing) will make their first Road America starts as well, along with fast Forsythe Racing rookie Richard Philippe (#33 INDECK/Layer 7) of France. PR1 Motorsports racer Mike Forest (#32 Miracle Sealants/Dynacor) of Canada will see his first action since Round 10 in Denver as he makes his Road America Atlantic debut.



Looking to aid their championship-contending teammates this weekend, Michael Patrizi (#5 Team Australia/Aussie Vineyards) of Team Australia (Pagenaud’s teammate) and Ryan Lewis (#30 Insport Sports Management) of Mi-Jack Conquest Racing (Rahal’s team stablemate) will both race at Road America for the first time.



Season-long Atlantic competitors Tim Bridgman (#2 Epson) of England and Epson Team Jensen and Justin Sofio (#26 Mathiasen Motorsports/RLM Investments) of the USA will look to end the season on an up note in their Road America debuts. Brooks Associates Racing rookie Alex Sperafico (#10 Mnyx.com/Sperafico Agroindustrial) raced in the 2004 Champ Car event at Road America but this weekend marks his first time in an Atlantic car at the track.



Brian Thienes (#19 Thienes Engineering) made his series debut last round at Montreal and he’ll compete for McAtee Motorsports this weekend. Fresh off winning the 2006 Cooper Tires FF2000 series title, 18-year-old American J.R. Hildebrand (#36 Newman Wachs Racing) will make his first Atlantic start this weekend, competing for Gelles Racing.



The 12th and final round of Atlantic racing will feature the series’ eighth standing start of the season. All Atlantics competing this weekend are newly-designed Swift 016.a chassis powered by 300-horsepower Mazda-Cosworth MZR engines capable of speeds in excess of 175 mph. Each entry will ride on Yokohama ADVAN Racing Slicks. Friday morning the season finale schedule begins with an extended practice session from 8-9:20 a.m. (local) Central Time. The opening round of qualifying will take place from 1-1:45 p.m. Friday. On Saturday morning the Atlantics return to the track for practice from 8:45-9:40 a.m. The final round of qualifying will be held from 1-1:45 p.m. Saturday. The Mazda-Cosworth engines will fire to begin the final race day of the season with a 15-minute warm-up practice from 8-8:15 a.m. Sunday morning. The Gehl Champ Car Atlantic Championship Finale at Road America will get underway at 10:30 a.m. Sunday. The race is scheduled for 18 laps (72.864 miles) or 50 minutes and can be seen on SPEED beginning at 5 p.m. ET on Sunday, October, 8. For additional information, visit the official web site of North America’s premier open-wheel development series, www.champcaratlantic.com.

Spicoli
09-20-06, 07:58 PM
VITAL 2005 RACE STATISTICS:

Time of Race: 35:12.283

Average Speed: 117.284 mph

Margin of Victory: 2.548 seconds

Caution Flags: None

Lap Leaders: Tonis Kasemets, 1-17





ROAD AMERICA RACE HISTORY (21 events, 1974; 1978-83; 1986-90; 1996-2002; 2004-Present)



Year Race winner Pole winner

1974 Tom Klausler Tom Klausler

1978 Howdy Holmes Bobby Rahal

1979 Bob Earl Kevin Cogan

1980 Bob Earl *Jacques Villeneuve

1981 Whitney Ganz *Jacques Villeneuve

1982 John David Briggs Tim Coconis

1983 Roberto Moreno Michael Andretti

1986 Scott Goodyear Scott Goodyear

1987 Ted Prappas Ted Prappas

1988 Colin Trueman Colin Trueman

1989 Claude Bourbonnais *Jacques Villeneuve

1990 Jimmy Vasser Jimmy Vasser

1996 Patrick Carpentier Patrick Carpentier

1997 Alex Barron Chuck West

1998 Anthony Lazzaro Anthony Lazzaro

1999 Andrew Bordin Alex Tagliani

2000 Buddy Rice Martin Basso

2001 Hoover Orsi Hoover Orsi

2002 Luis Diaz Jon Fogarty

2004 Ryan Dalziel Ryan Dalziel

2005 Tonis Kasemets Tonis Kasemets



Multiple Race Winners Bob Earl (1979, 1980)



Multiple Polesitters Jacques Villeneuve (1980, 1981 and 1989)

pchall
09-22-06, 02:26 PM
Multiple Polesitters Jacques Villeneuve (1980, 1981 and 1989)

I think you've got the records of the uncle and nephew conflated there.

theunions
09-22-06, 03:05 PM
I think you've got the records of the uncle and nephew conflated there.

No, Uncle Jacques had a long Atlantic career, whereas the latter only ran in '93.

skaven
09-22-06, 05:35 PM
Pagenaud takes provisional pole and gets the Friday point. Rahal is second fastest and laments that he got blocked on his fast lap.

Both are two seconds faster than the rest of the field. :eek:

Speed Link (http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/champcar/32760/)

nrc
09-23-06, 09:19 PM
Matos takes pole by .6 seconds over Rahal. Rahal will line up in third behind Matos and Pagenaud and along side Hinchcliff. The 2 million gets decided tomorrow at 11:30. Timing and video will be live online. :thumbup:

nrc
09-24-06, 12:17 PM
SPOILER





























Rahal goes out with mechanical problems - championship to Pagenaud. Pagenaud gets punted out a few laps after Rahal. Rahal very cool afterwards, seems confident he'll be in Champ car.

The rest of the race has been a "Hang onto your hollyhocks" affair.

skaven
09-24-06, 12:39 PM
Good race ! ! ! :thumbup:

Here's hoping the weather stays dry for the Champcars (and our OC at-the-track brethren). :)