Grand Prix of Denver - Round 10

[Insomniac]

The CCWS weekend has started. PT topped practice 1 followed by Bourdais and AJ.

1 P. Tracy 1:01.651 96.758
2 S. Bourdais 1:01.689 96.698
3 A. Allmendinger 1:02.000 96.213
4 J. Wilson 1:02.083 96.084
5 O. Servia 1:02.171 95.948
6 M. Dominguez 1:02.209 95.89
7 B. Junqueira 1:02.317 95.723
8 A. Ranger 1:02.743 95.074
9 N. Philippe 1:02.976 94.722
10 W. Power 1:03.056 94.602
11 A. Tagliani 1:03.062 94.593
12 J. Heylen 1:03.247 94.316
13 D. Clarke 1:03.424 94.053
14 K. Legge 1:03.494 93.949
15 C. Zwolsman 1:03.499 93.942
16 N. Pastorelli 1:05.917 90.496

Only 16 cars. :(

[skaven]

26 for the Atlantics series though.

Looking forward to that race. :thumbup:

[KLang]

Mario 6th in the Coynemobile :thumbup:

[KLang]

Strange, SB didn't go out for the second practice.

[cameraman]

Paul Tracy managed a 16th place in the qualifying. He hit the turn 4 tires, taking out the front suspension and rear wing. Heylen also lost a "fast" lap time to a spin. Even losing the lap he qualified ahead of Clarke, Pastorelli and Tracy.

Looks to be a bad start for the CTE/HVM pair with Philippe in 11th and Clarke in 14th.

A. Allmendinger...1:00.714
S. Bourdais ........1:00.763.....0.049
A. Tagliani..........1:00.988.....0.274.....0.225
J. Wilson.............1:00.991.....0.277.....0.003
B. Junqueira........1:01.141.....0.427.....0.150
O. Servia............1:01.302.....0.588.....0.161
M. Dominguez.....1:01.304.....0.590.....0.002
W. Power............1:01.587.....0.873.....0.283
C. Zwolsman.......1:01.644.....0.930.....0.057
A. Ranger............1:01.724.....1.010.....0.080
N. Philippe...........1:01.767.....1.053.....0.043
K. Legge..............1:01.777.....1.063.....0.010
J. Heylen.............1:02.502.....1.788.....0.725
D. Clarke.............1:02.706.....1.992.....0.204
N. Pastorelli.........1:04.251.....3.537.....1.545
P. Tracy...............1:05.531.....4.817.....1.280

[Chiphead_Dave]

Was at the race today.

Having some beer and Margs now.

Hot today but the shade in the afternoon was nice.

Paul and AJ had lots -o- oversteer in the hairpin.

Justin looked smooth but didn't get the fast time.

:flame: No freaking jumbotron easily visible from the
entrance to turn 1 grandstands (where my tickets are for on race day). :thumdown:

Heylen was on track the most of anybody and roasted a set of reds
in Qual.

Well into the shower and out to dinner for me.

Missing Shorty.

Oh and Champcar put out a huge card that anyone could sign
and they will present it to him. :thumbup:

[Don Quixote]

Very nice crowd there today. In the morning I was wondering if anybody was going to show up, but by noon the place was packed. It was as good a Friday as any since they restarted this race in 2002. Sixteen cars is pretty thin out there. The get well card for Shorty is great. The support series all have large grids. I love the look and sound of the new Atlantics cars. There is some weather moving in tomorrow, so we may have some wet racing fun.

[Don Quixote]

Oh, and I almost forgot. The highlight of the day was when my 15 year old son jumped ugly with a guy wearing an IRL shirt in the autograph line. I guess he's been hearing my rantings for so long now that it is just second nature for him. :thumbup:

[NismoZ]

Saw the #10 car being towed to the pit lane at the CLOSE of the CC qualifying session today. Talk in paddock of Rahal running a 3rd car in Mexico City IF he tests well and IF the title is already in hand. Crew NOT looking forward to a 3rd entry but next season with more prep time is a different story.

[Chiphead_Dave]

Oh, and I almost forgot. The highlight of the day was when my 15 year old son jumped ugly with a guy wearing an IRL shirt in the autograph line. I guess he's been hearing my rantings for so long now that it is just second nature for him. :thumbup:

Did you see the guy on the jumbotron w/ the no-twIRL tee-shirt.

Eric G. (announcing) was speechless.

Later I got a picture of him leaning against a truck checking out the trailing end of the Champcar girls. Shame on you eric.

Also K. Legge likes milk with her brownies. My Daughter was so proud.

I talked to the no-IRL guy later and gave him the thumbs up. :thumbup:

Saw the #10 car being assembled and got a little choked up. Kids wanted to
sign the car.

Finally cooled off now, 1 beer, 1 marg, 1 shower w/ wife.

[extramundane]

Only 16 cars. :(

Paul Gentilozzi is just reiterating his commitment to ChampCar by putting Kasemets in a Daytona Prototype this weekend. :gomer:

[Spicoli]

Very nice crowd there today. In the morning I was wondering if anybody was going to show up, but by noon the place was packed. It was as good a Friday as any since they restarted this race in 2002. Sixteen cars is pretty thin out there. The get well card for Shorty is great. The support series all have large grids. I love the look and sound of the new Atlantics cars. There is some weather moving in tomorrow, so we may have some wet racing fun.

:cool:

[Spicoli]

Paul Gentilozzi is just reiterating his commitment to ChampCar by putting Kasemets in a Daytona Prototype this weekend. :gomer:


Gentiloser.


Gomer indeed. i heard he's related to Hemelgarn. :gomer:

:shakehead

paul-------suckfart.

[greenie]

Paul Tracy managed a 16th place in the qualifying. He hit the turn 4 tires, taking out the front suspension and rear wing.

I don't know if he's washed up, but manboobs is scraping the sand at high tide. Even Dario would work him. :gomer:

Isn't Gentillozi (sp) out of the ownership group?

[Jayblues]

Did you see the guy on the jumbotron w/ the no-twIRL tee-shirt.

Eric G. (announcing) was speechless.

Later I got a picture of him leaning against a truck checking out the trailing end of the Champcar girls. Shame on you eric.

Also K. Legge likes milk with her brownies. My Daughter was so proud.

I talked to the no-IRL guy later and gave him the thumbs up. :thumbup:

Saw the #10 car being assembled and got a little choked up. Kids wanted to
sign the car.

Finally cooled off now, 1 beer, 1 marg, 1 shower w/ wife.


Huge cheers in grands stand 2 when the no IRL t shirt guy was shown. I too was surprised how many people were there. GS 7 was 2/3's full and all the stands has people in them. It was good vibe.

Very hot despite the clouds, wish i got the same shower deal you did when i got home!

[Insomniac]

I don't know if he's washed up, but manboobs is scraping the sand at high tide. Even Dario would work him. :gomer:

Seems to be par for the course for PT. Seems like he's always brushing against/hitting something.

[Fitti Fan]

Glad to hear Alex has a car.

[Insomniac]

Glad to hear Alex has a car.

And he put it in P5, 1 spot behind PT, but not directly behind him on the grid. SB and N/H showed why they're the class of the field in qualifying.

Combined Results:

1 S. Bourdais 59.096 100.941
2 A. Allmendinger 59.350 100.509
3 J. Wilson 59.878 99.623
4 P. Tracy 59.903 99.581
5 A. Tagliani 59.919 99.554
6 A. Ranger 1:00.007 99.408
7 B. Junqueira 1:00.029 99.372
8 O. Servia 1:00.096 99.261
9 M. Dominguez 1:00.147 99.177
10 N. Philippe 1:00.333 98.871
11 W. Power 1:00.405 98.753
12 C. Zwolsman 1:00.453 98.675
13 D. Clarke 1:00.887 97.972
14 J. Heylen 1:01.201 97.469
15 K. Legge 1:01.370 97.201
16 N. Pastorelli 1:03.472 93.982

[Insomniac]

Also, a reminder to those of you who get SPEED. Denver Qualifying is on at 9 PM EDT.

[Dr. Corkski]

Good job Katherine. :laugh:

[Don Quixote]

Great crowd again today. The grandstands were probably 2/3 full for Atlantics and Champcar qualifying. There were alot of PT haters in the section around us. Every time he had a problem, cackling cheers from the throngs. Reminds me of when MA was in the series and about half the fans hated him. The Formula BMW race was terrific, lots of lead changes and passing throughout the grid. The rain held off today, we will see about tomorrow. Only two of the granstands are reserved seats this year, with all the others being general admission. There won't be any empty seats tomorrow. The Altitude Network, which is Stan Kronke's TV network that covers the Avs, Nuggets, etc, will rerun the race tomorrow night at 7:30 mountain time. There wasn't squat promotion done this year for this race. I hardly saw a billboard or heard an advertisement on the radio or anything. I thought that the crowds would be way down to the point of embarassment. The only explanation I have for the success of the race is that they have now run it for 5 years, and people are just marking it on their calendar automatically. Maybe this is turning into a mini Long Beach type situation that will become a good tradition after a number of years.

[Chiphead_Dave]

Again Justin was very smooth all day.

AJ and Paul were point and shoot racing.

N. Phillipe was trying every line known to man all day long.

K. Legge was all over the map had several long lockups in T1

Scanner talk:

Paul was not happy with the reds. Wanted them off the car.

Bruno is a whiny Biatch. I think he was crying in the cockpit during
qualifying.

Justin felt like he couldn't get an open area to really run.

AJ was very cool and collected the whole time.

[FCYTravis]

Paul Gentilozzi is just reiterating his commitment to ChampCar by putting Kasemets in a Daytona Prototype this weekend. :gomer:
The DP's being paid for by Tomy Drissi's movie money. Just a freebie for Tonis to get some seat time and try and help out what up until now had been a hopeless backmarker.

TK made Paul's DP look respectable for the first time in about eight tries. Too bad the power steering broke on the recon lap :rolleyes: :cry:

[extramundane]

The DP's being paid for by Tomy Drissi's movie money. Just a freebie for Tonis to get some seat time and try and help out what up until now had been a hopeless backmarker.

TK made Paul's DP look respectable for the first time in about eight tries. Too bad the power steering broke on the recon lap :rolleyes: :cry:

Dammit, Travis, stop getting your facts in the way of my Gentilozzi slams! :D

[TKGAngel]

Speed's reporting that Carl Haas fell off his scooter on Friday (but still kept the cigar in his mouth!), and AJ's father fell off a golf cart in the paddock and had to spend the night at the hospital for a concussion. :eek:
Link (http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/champcar/30845/)

[devilmaster]

Speed's reporting that Carl Haas fell off his scooter on Friday (but still kept the cigar in his mouth!), and AJ's father fell off a golf cart in the paddock and had to spend the night at the hospital for a concussion. :eek:
Link (http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/champcar/30845/)

probably got scared by the ugly grid girls....

[FCYTravis]

I've read that the number one cause of insurance claims by SCCA members (every member has $1 million health coverage after signing in) is for paddock vehicle accidents. :eek:

[Spicoli]

I need my Blinky translator. WTF did he just say? :confused:

And its nice to see them pimping out the fight in San Jose. Guess they figgered it was a good storyline after the fact. :gomer:

[Spicoli]

Nice Team Australia infomercial. Damn, can they wreck.

[nissan gtp]

AJ is looking very strong today :cool:

[dando]

w00t! I thinks we haves us a new formula for racin'!!!! :gomer: :D

-Kevin

[jonovision_man]

PT :shakehead Looked like he pushed the braking too late and just nailed him.

Since he's on probation, this should be it, right? No PT in Montreal? I'm betting he'll be there, but he really shouldn't be.

jono

[grungex]

Looked like he locked 'em up a bit just before the impact...

[gjc2]

PT :shakehead Looked like he pushed the braking too late and just nailed him.

Since he's on probation, this should be it, right? No PT in Montreal? I'm betting he'll be there, but he really shouldn't be.

jono

I agree, PT should be parked, but they're not going to want to start 15 cars in Montreal.

[jonovision_man]

I agree, PT should be parked, but there're not going to want to start 15 cars in Montreal.

Agreed. They'll be especially reluctant to park a Canadian for a Canadian race.

But no question in my mind someone who is already supposedly on probation should be out after that move.

jono

[Spicoli]

stop whining. :gomer:

[spinner26]

Then he says in post race "paybacks are a bitch and all the french leave their helmet on".

bet he gets a parking ticket. :thumbup:

[Dr. Corkski]

I agree, PT should be parked, but they're not going to want to start 15 cars in Montreal.You can park his sorry ass and put a real driver in the car. What good will 17 cars do when that FaFu insists on taking out half of them on his own? :gomer:

Paul Tracy sucks. He isn't a very good driver either.

[Spicoli]

You can park his sorry ass and put a real driver in the car. What good will 17 cars do when that FaFu insists on taking out half of them on his own? :gomer:

Paul Tracy sucks. He isn't a very good driver either.

Are you french? :cry:

[Insomniac]

Does Will Power's eyes creep anyone else out?

PT: AJ thanks you for the boost in the championship.

SB: Next tiime, don't leave PT plenty of room. Close the door instead of going wide. You leave him that much space, even all of us at home know what he's going to do.

[Insomniac]

Then he says in post race "paybacks are a bitch and all the french leave their helmet on".

bet he gets a parking ticket. :thumbup:

I like how SB just runs over there and shoves him. Then in post race says PT had it in his eyes that he was asking for it. I think SB was very calculated in going after him knowing he was on probation.

I doubt he gets parked. They aren't going to park him in Canada. They'll chalk this up as a racing incident. PT seeing red as usual. You can't expect people to be afraid of him and just not try to pass him knowing that will happen. I can't imagine a series without him around though.

On the bright side, at least the championship is a little closer and there's even more drama. :)

[Insomniac]

What was up with the Cosworth horsepower? 680hp and 740 with P2P. Why was it so low? And SB still set a new lap record in qualifying.

I enjoyed the racing caused by the tire problems. They need tire issues at every race. First the F1 race in Hungary, now Denver. :thumbup:

[Dr. Corkski]

Are you french? :cry:Do you post at ccf? :p

[devilmaster]

What was up with the Cosworth horsepower? 680hp and 740 with P2P. Why was it so low? And SB still set a new lap record in qualifying.

Just a WAG, but wouldn't it be less due to less air at that height?


I enjoyed the racing caused by the tire problems. They need tire issues at every race. First the F1 race in Hungary, now Denver. :thumbup:

Also agree with that. Kinda wierd though that the past couple races it seems the reds are more of a hinderance than a help.

[Spicoli]

Do you post at ccf? :p

no.

[Insomniac]

Just a WAG, but wouldn't it be less due to less air at that height?



Also agree with that. Kinda wierd though that the past couple races it seems the reds are more of a hinderance than a help.

That makes sense, but I'd expect them to adjust the pop-off valve to increase HP.

See, PT was ahead of the curve by sucking on reds earlier this season. ;)

[TrueBrit]

If they DON'T park PT for Montreal I'd like him to explain to the crowd how the French don't take their helmets off for fights...I'm not even French and I'd like a piece of his fat ass...

Fkin wanker....

French-hating is sooooooooo last year..... :thumdown: :gomer: :rolleyes: :shakehead

[Spicoli]

If they DON'T park PT for Montreal I'd like him to explain to the crowd how the French don't take their helmets off for fights...I'm not even French and I'd like a piece of his fat ass...

Fkin wanker....

French-hating is sooooooooo last year..... :shakehead

http://www.psistar.co.uk/images/stopwhining.jpg

[TrueBrit]

That's the best you have?

:shakehead

[rabbit]

That's the best you have?

:shakehead
The best? Heck, it's all he's got. :gomer:

PT is an overrated wanker.

For those of you keeping score at home, it's AJ 4, PT 0. :D

[Wally]

... :D.....

[grungex]

You can park his sorry ass and put a real driver in the car. What good will 17 cars do when that FaFu insists on taking out half of them on his own? :gomer:

Paul Tracy sucks. He isn't a very good driver either.
Are you french? :cry:
I think he's Doc Austin...

[Dr. Corkski]

Poor Tracy fans. Running out of insults like Tracy is running out of talent. :laugh:

[jonovision_man]

Poor Tracy fans. Running out of insults like Tracy is running out of talent. :laugh:

That's what bugs the heck out of me in all of this... PT isn't running out of talent. Did you watch him storm from last to 2nd? It was an awesome performance, he was on it and then some...

... only to ruin everything within sight of the finish with yet another brain fart.

jono

[TKGAngel]

Did you hear the crowd perk up when PT and SeeBass started going at it? If I could hear it on my tv, I can only imagine how loud it was in person.

I don't think that PT will be sat down for Canada, but there probably will be another undisclosed round of fines for the two of them, plus double secret probation for PT.

[Accipiter]

That's what bugs the heck out of me in all of this... PT isn't running out of talent. Did you watch him storm from last to 2nd? It was an awesome performance, he was on it and then some...



Big deal, he did with the benefit of FCYs, and by leaning on P2P.

[nrc]

Big deal, he did with the benefit of FCYs, and by leaning on P2P.
Every driver he passed had P2P and the same yellows.

[Spicoli]

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20051020/paultracy_59463.jpg

PT don't care.


And he still has a better job than everyone here. :p

[KLang]

Overall an enjoyable race for me. :thumbup: Thanks at least in part to the tire situation. That little track in Denver has been putting on some good shows the last few years.

Awesome drive by PT through the field despite the finish.

[grungex]

Poor Tracy fans. Running out of insults like Tracy is running out of talent. :laugh:
So you are Doc Austin. Thought so.

[Dr. Corkski]

That's what bugs the heck out of me in all of this... PT isn't running out of talent. Did you watch him storm from last to 2nd? It was an awesome performance, he was on it and then some...

... only to ruin everything within sight of the finish with yet another brain fart.

jonoWell, he ran out it like at the end, didn't he? :gomer:

What's all this Doc Austin business? Is that poster really getting that desperate for insults? :laugh:

[Insomniac]

That's what bugs the heck out of me in all of this... PT isn't running out of talent. Did you watch him storm from last to 2nd? It was an awesome performance, he was on it and then some...

... only to ruin everything within sight of the finish with yet another brain fart.

jono

It seems more like the same exact thing that got him back up the field. He's bold and takes a lot of risk and doesn't care if it ends his day. He goes for broke and takes people with him.

[Spicoli]

It seems more like the same exact thing that got him back up the field. He's bold and takes a lot of risk and doesn't care if it ends his day. He goes for broke and takes people with him.

Yep.


Lead, follow, or get the F*** out of the way. :D

[Insomniac]

Big deal, he did with the benefit of FCYs, and by leaning on P2P.

Wow. He moved from 15th to 4th before the second FCY on Lap 35. (The first being the one he stalled on)

[grungex]

Now, now, don't let facts get in the way of a good bashing.

[chop456]

Yep.


Lead, follow, or get the F*** out of the way. :D

An excellent strategy for going 1 for 15 in the championship department. :thumbup:

[Fitti Fan]

Awesome drive by PT through the field despite the finish.

"The field" is not what it used to be. Any of the top four cars could have done the same thing. It's not like the old days when coming from behind was an actual challenge.

[Dr. Corkski]

An excellent strategy for going 1 for 15 in the championship department. :thumbup:Hater. :gomer:

[Spicoli]

An excellent strategy for going 1 for 15 in the championship department. :thumbup:

better than you. :gomer:

[Insomniac]

An excellent strategy for going 1 for 15 in the championship department. :thumbup:

And keeping people talking for days. :)

[Insomniac]

"The field" is not what it used to be. Any of the top four cars could have done the same thing. It's not like the old days when coming from behind was an actual challenge.

This goes both ways then. The top four cars winning all these races means nothing. They're average drivers among wankers.

[Dr. Corkski]

So Tracy doesn't think he will face any suspension because he thinks he is bigger than the series:

''What are they going to do, (take) me out of a race in Canada? Give me a break,'' he said.http://tsn.ca/auto_racing/news_story/?ID=174172&hubname=

[nrc]

Villenueve to Forsythe! :D

[pferrf1]

If they DON'T park PT for Montreal I'd like him to explain to the crowd how the French don't take their helmets off for fights...I'm not even French and I'd like a piece of his fat ass...

Fkin wanker....

French-hating is sooooooooo last year..... :thumdown: :gomer:


Watch much hockey?

The French helmet thing PT referred to was a long running theme in the NHL this year after Sean Avery said the french candian players were too chicken to play with visors.... And a few years ago Don Cherry said visors were only for europeans and wimpy french players. PT is just showing his CDN genes ;)

[cameraman]

Daring Tony Cotman to sit you down is not very bright.

Which makes perfect sense as PT isn't very bright.

[Don Quixote]

Crowd picture from start of race.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1603/p8130202dm1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KLang]

Crowd picture from start of race.


Can't be. Nobody goes to watch the street races. ;)

[Don Quixote]

Facing the other direction.

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/2624/p8130204qi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[nrc]

Must be mud 'rasslin just out of the shot there.

[KLang]

Must be mud 'rasslin just out of the shot there.

Womens beach volleyball, silly. :laugh:

[Don Quixote]

Saturday qualifying.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3672/p8120191zl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[oddlycalm]

However you slice it, and regardless of which side of the PT move you come down on, Denver was a strong event. Again. :thumbup:

oc

[Spicoli]

['wilke]

But sparta had 38,657.

http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/build_photo.php?photo_id=46267&size=med

[/wilke]

[grungex]

Now they're counting toes, too?

[Ankf00]

I'm going to eat my words from a few years back when Denver first popped up on the sched.

Despite being one of the midget-length street events, it's sure turned out fine :thumbup:

[dando]

Spickly, in defense of the .1RL, there were more fans on the front stretch. I counted @ least 2 dozen. :gomer:

-Kevin

[skaven]

I was surprised how many people there seemed knowledgeable about the series at the race - in particular the pit skirmish last week at San Jose and the points standings. I sat next to fans who flew in from New Mexico and Alabama (a Florida transplant with a UF National Champions 2006 hat). A lot of folks were making a mini-Colorado vacation based around the race.

Whereas I'm a fan of the road courses and would like to see the diversity of the series return, I think that assuming all street-race goers are event goers is not very accurate. I'm sure there were a lot of people there just for the party, but a lot more were there to follow the racing.

With little promotion compared to years past, Denver once again put on a great show that had the fans on their feet cheering in Turn 9.

Good job Champ Car. :thumbup:

[Spicoli]

I was surprised how many people there seemed knowledgeable about the series at the race - in particular the pit skirmish last week at San Jose and the points standings. I sat next to fans who flew in from New Mexico and Alabama (a Florida transplant with a UF National Champions 2006 hat). A lot of folks were making a mini-Colorado vacation based around the race.

Whereas I'm a fan of the road courses and would like to see the diversity of the series return, I think that assuming all street-race goers are event goers is not very accurate. I'm sure there were a lot of people there just for the party, but a lot more were there to follow the racing.

With little promotion compared to years past, Denver once again put on a great show that had the fans on their feet cheering in Turn 9.

Good job Champ Car. :thumbup:

sounds like you had fun.


How about a TR with fotos? :gomer:

[Insomniac]

So Tracy doesn't think he will face any suspension because he thinks he is bigger than the series:
http://tsn.ca/auto_racing/news_story/?ID=174172&hubname=

Foot meet mouth. PT, STFU before they decide to make an example of you. Don't antagonize the stewards.

[jonovision_man]

Big deal, he did with the benefit of FCYs, and by leaning on P2P.

And setting some bloody fast lap times. He's still got talent... what he's lacking is brains.

jono

[Jayblues]

Facing the other direction.

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/2624/p8130204qi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


from GS 2 race time, the place was full!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/jayblues/Denver06016.jpg

[Sean O'Gorman]

Damn, there must be hundreds of fans in those photos! ;)

[skaven]

Damn, there must be hundreds of fans in those photos! ;)

Aha... at least you admit they are "fans." :gomer:

And that's not counting the dozens of vendors.

[Don Quixote]

Aha... at least you admit they are "fans." :gomer:

And that's not counting the dozens of vendors.
He didn't say "fans" of what! Also, there were at least 20 beach volleyball women in attendence. :)

[Insomniac]

After the enjoyment of this race because the tires ended being a huge unknown, I was thinking. If all the teams knew the tires would go off much earlier, they would've all probably started on them and came in early and used blacks the rest of the way, which would've changed Bourdais' and Wilson's races and probably made the race a little less fun (i.e. passing on track and not getting a near perfect car).

Is there a safe way to provide an alternate set of tires without disclosing their properties (softer, really soft, harder, shorter life, longer life, etc.) that can't be used until race day, and they must use one set?

[dando]

Just listened to the audio roundtable, and they mentioned that 20K would be a good attendance # for the race. Someone mentioned that stands had been removed, and that losing Centrix as title sponsor just weeks before the race really hurt the race promo.

-Kevin